Coptic Orthodox coming into communion with St Peter

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Welcome brother! Yes, you would canonically be Coptic Catholic by default. Are there any Coptic Catholic parishes near you? (Unlikely as it is a small Church with only 200 000 or so members worldwide, mostly in Egypt, if memory serves). That being said, if you feel drawn to Byzantine spirituality you are more than welcome to participate in the life of the Church through the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. Some of my Eastern / Oriental brothers may chide be for being a “legalistic” Latin, but I feel obliged to point out that you are technically bound by the particular laws of the Coptic Catholic Church in terms of fasting, holy days, etc, even though you are free to participate in the liturgy according to any rite. In time, if you feel that the Ukrainian Church is “home”, you could always apply for a canonical transfer. In the mean time - continue to enjoy drinking in the richness of our Byzantine brothers’ beautiful liturgy! God bless.
 
Thanks for all the lovely messages of support. Recieved the body and blood for the first time in latin rite parish last night. Was beautiful. However going to mass with my wife, who is still orthodox, was very difficult. But for the sake of church unity I must follow my conscience.
 
coptsoldier said:
Thanks for all the lovely messages of support. Recieved the body and blood for the first time in latin rite parish last night. Was beautiful. However going to mass with my wife, who is still orthodox, was very difficult. But for the sake of church unity I must follow my conscience.
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Just letting you know that there is a thread on Christian unity in the Prayer Intentions sub-forum, so if you wish to pray with us, you are most welcome to! God bless and see you around!
 
Ephesians 3:14 This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, 15 from whom every fatherhood, in heaven or on earth, takes its name. 16 In the abundance of his glory may he, through his Spirit, enable you to grow firm in power with regard to your inner self, 17 so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, 18 with all God’s holy people you will have the strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth;19 so that, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond knowledge, you may be filled with the utter fullness of God

Peace
 
josie_L said:
I am “offended” by anyone who baptizes a person who is validly baptized (look to Church canon for reference), moreover, the idea of re-baptizing is not the same as not allowing a Lutheran access to the eucharist, i.e., the very idea behind re-baptism implies a belief that the person in question was never really Christian. Denying a Lutheran the eucharist or re-ordaining an Anglican priest is not a denial of that person’s authentic baptism or incorporation into the body of Christ.

p.s. I asked you a question earlier, how would you feel if tomorrow we started to re-baptize Copts and any other non-Catholic entering the Church?
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The reordination of Anglican priests is a better example which says the same thing. Either way it is a denial if the authority and power of the church in question and the sacraments performed by them. The Catholic Church denies the efficacy of all Anglican sacraments except baptism. The Copts deny the efficacy of all Catholic sacraments, without exception. Should an Anglican be offended that Catholics essentially say they have been worshiping bread since Anglicans don’t have the Eucharist?

I responded to your earlier question that I would feel it would be more honest if they did start rebaptizing all noncatholics because we all know that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is still the teaching of the CC. I wouldn’t agree with it, but it would be more honest. But I am not fully in the bag with any side of the argument between the various eastern churches and the west. So my opinion matters very little.

I don’t agree with the Coptic position. That isn’t my intent. I am just saying that they think we are all heretics, and the consequences of our heresy is that our baptism and other sacraments are invalid. It is what it is. No point being offended by it.
 
jimmy said:
I responded to your earlier question that I would feel it would be more honest if they did start rebaptizing all noncatholics because we all know that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is still the teaching of the CC.
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I don’t think it would be more honest, although it would certainly appear (on the surface) to be more consistent.
 
Interesting. I went from Roman Catholic to Eastern Orthodox and couldn’t be more happy, but I wish you the best in your journey.
 
Hi truthseeker32, when abouts did you became an Orthodox catechumen? (I ask b/c I’m trying to figure out whether that’s news to me, or whether my brain knew it once and then misplaced it.)
 
Peter_J said:
Originally Posted by josie L
It’s interesting you had to mention this!
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I was just thinking about ^^ this. Perhaps I was a bit too literalistic in reading the “had to”.

Taken in a more casual sense, I don’t see anything wrong with your comment. It’s like I said before (I forget the context, but I think it was within the last couple months) we’re really not all that different from each other: we Catholics feel pretty much the same about a Catholic becoming Orthodox as the Orthodox do about an Orthodox becoming Catholic (and so on).
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Peter_J said:
Hi truthseeker32, when abouts did you became an Orthodox catechumen? (I ask b/c I’m trying to figure out whether that’s news to me, or whether my brain knew it once and then misplaced it.)
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I officially became a catechumen a couple months ago.
 
josie_L said:
It’s interesting you had to mention this!
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I didn’t have to do anything. I added the anecdote to show why, from my specific perspective, I find the OP’s decision interesting.
 
truthseeker32 said:
I didn’t have to do anything. I added the anecdote to show why, from my specific perspective, I find the OP’s decision interesting.
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Why should you find it interesting, I.e., is this the first time you encounter an Orthodox who has converted to Catholicism?
 
It is, if anything, not very common, and hence could be considered interesting to some people.
 
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