Cream of Wheat will remove black chef from packaging

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Nepperhan said:
In the weeks leading up to Saint Patrick’s Day, the group has called on Walmart to stop selling things like t-Shirts emblazoned with such mottos as “I may not be Irish, but I Can Drink like one” and “Blame the Irish for my Behavior”.
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Imagine if the shirts said “black” instead of “Irish”. Would they be innocent statements?
 
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So it’s ok to stereotype and mock the Irish?

Edited to add: it doesn’t bother me to hear it so much as society has an issue with anything that could be misconstrued as derogatory to other groups.
 
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Actually, I just wish the Church in the US did a better job of reminding us that is actually a religious feast day.
 
MikeInVA said:
Actually, I just wish the Church in the US did a better job of reminding us that is actually a religious feast day.
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St. Patrick’s Day is actually of Memorial rank, and so quite unimportant on the calendar, as ‘feast days’ go. Certain localities and communities may grant it an elevated rank.

My bishop and others have been known to give dispensations from Lenten meat abstinence when St. Patrick’s Day falls on a Friday. So even the Church feels it is time for gluttonous celebration of all things green.
 
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I agree. To me, the Hibernians are a bunch of Americans of largely Irish descent (not many are 100% Irish anymore, including me) who are trying to hold onto a bit of what they think is Irish culture and probably was 100 years ago.

These things are, I think, largely social. When my son was in law school, he was a member in good standing of the Irish Lawyers’ Association and the Italian Lawyers’ Addociation, simultaneously. There was a handful of blacks in one of them; I think maybe the Irish one. They were basically excuses to say what you could in Gaelic or Italian while drinking Guiness or Chianti as the case might be, and giving a try at the Jig or the Tarantella.
 
MikeInVA said:
Imagine if the shirts said “black” instead of “Irish”. Would they be innocent statements?
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Either way, its offensive. The point is that ethnicities complain about being offended, too. Don’t think its just black folks.

" The Notre Dame leprechaun and the Fighting Irish logo have come under intense scrutiny this year in the wake of the Black Lives Matter protests following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Those protests have prompted scholars to examine images, slogans, and names through an entirely different prism and many believe that Notre Dame’s leprechaun, with its hat askew and its fists raised, represents a negative stereotype of Irish people.

Irish Times writer Dave Hannigan, for example, said that the leprechaun wouldn’t look out of place in a 19th-century English magazine mocking Irish people and their cultures.

Many have called on the school to remove the “Fighting Irish” nickname and the leprechaun mascot."

 
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Same thing with black folks. But white people throw up their hands and and can’t understand it.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I agree. To me, the Hibernians are a bunch of Americans of largely Irish descent (not many are 100% Irish anymore, including me) who are trying to hold onto a bit of what they think is Irish culture and probably was 100 years ago.
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But, remember, you realize that the correct answer when someone is offended is to say “Please excuse me. I apologize for offending you.” What is INCORRECT to say is “Don’t be offended. You’re too sensitive.”
Ridgerunner said:
These things are, I think, largely social. When my son was in law school, he was a member in good standing of the Irish Lawyers’ Association and the Italian Lawyers’ Addociation, simultaneously. There was a handful of blacks in one of them; I think maybe the Irish one. They were basically excuses to say what you could in Gaelic or Italian while drinking Guiness or Chianti as the case might be, and giving a try at the Jig or the Tarantella.
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Actually no. Legal associations were established along ethnic lines, sometimes because there were entry barriers to some groups. Some identities were masked, too.

So in Chicago there is:

Advocates Society – Polish lawyers
Cook County Bar --black lawyers
Decalogue society – Jewish lawyers
Justinian Society – Italian lawyers
Asian lawyers
Asian-Pacific lawyers
Catholic lawyers
Christian lawyers
Mexican lawyers

and several more. It should be noted that currently a black man is president of the Decalogue Society of Jewish lawyers.
 
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Nepperhan said:
Don’t think its just black folks.
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I never said it is. These days almost any group can claim bias. You seemed to say that the Irish were being thin-skinned for complaining.

And by the way, the term “Fighting Irish” was a derogatory term used to describe Irish immigrants who were held in low esteem in the 19th century. It became a badge of honor for the men who fought in the Irish Brigade during the Civil War.
 
Mmmm. Cream of Wheat.

It’s cold outside, the first frost is expected tonight, and I’m going to bed soon because I need to rest my newly-replaced knee and be ready for physical therapy tomorrow morning. I plan to add an extra blanket to the pile, and I have my trusty sleep animal (I’m 63 and still sleep with a stuffed bear), and my husband will climb in next to me much much later (he’s a night owl).

I wish my mom was still alive and would be up, dressed, and cooking me a big pot of hot Cream of Wheat tomorrow morning in the warm kitchen while she’s listening to the local talk radio (still on the air after almost 100 years, but different people! I listen to them almost every day.) and reading the morning paper at the kitchen table while she drinks her coffee. She was a multi-tasker, just like me.

Cream of Wheat in my old Tupperware bowl with lots of sugar (I like sugar in everything). And maybe some hot cocoa made with Nestle’s Quik. And some of her homemade applesauce, warmed up.

Sigh.

It’s a shame to fight over something so yummy.
 
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God forbid any package should show a black chef. We all know those aren’t real. :crazy_face:
 
You’re right about the sugar, but you need to add a little butter to it as well, let it melt and stir it in. When you’re in the mood for something different but wonderful, try brown sugar.
 
Ridgerunner said:
You’re right about the sugar, but you need to add a little butter to it as well, let it melt and stir it in. When you’re in the mood for something different but wonderful, try brown sugar.
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Best served with Land O’Lakes and Aunt Jemima syrup.
 
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