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True, but one of the reasons the GOP field was so big for so long is that none of the candidates was doing well enough to force the others out.
That’s a possible way of looking at it. But I tend to favor what Gov Walker said, I.e. that he dropped out earlier than he really needed to, and encouraged others to drop out, precisely so that Trump could be beaten.

P.S. As I told someone else, if Rubio had dropped out just one day earlier than he did, Trump would not be doing so well in the delegate count.
 
He also said he could shoot somebody and not lose any votes.
That might be true. By traditional political standards, Trump has been a walking gaffe machine and it hasn’t hurt him. He skipped a debate right before Iowa; he went after Megyn Kelly, he said Bush didn’t protect us; he said women who seek abortions should be punished; he said that they shouldn’t; he made fun of Ted Cruz’ wife’s looks; he belittles his opponents; he wants to torture and kill families.

If he shot a guy, would it really make a difference?
 
DeusExMachina. You said (here) . . .

QUOTE:
. . . Ted Cruz . . . is an idiot

DeusExMachina. Senator Cruz might be a lot of things . . . . but Cruz ISN’T “an idiot”.
Yes. A few days ago I saw an interview with Alan Dershowitz, he was Cruz’s law professor, and said he was brilliant, principled and consistently conservative and one of his best students ever so definitely highly intelligent.
I’m proud to support Senator Cruz. I think he could win the general ,too.
 
If Trump was anyone else in the world (except Ted Cruz) then, by now, the RNC would be backing him as the presumptive nominee and getting out the vote for him.
Interesting. Kind of like the “Teflon Don” theory, except with nothing good sticking to him.
 
That might be true. By traditional political standards, Trump has been a walking gaffe machine and it hasn’t hurt him. He skipped a debate right before Iowa; he went after Megyn Kelly, he said Bush didn’t protect us; he said women who seek abortions should be punished; he said that they shouldn’t; he made fun of Ted Cruz’ wife’s looks; he belittles his opponents; he wants to torture and kill families.
Not to split hairs, but when people say that it didn’t hurt him I think that’s slightly misleading (like he’s the man of steel): it did cause him to lose some voters, but gained him other voters. I know it comes out to the same thing when the votes are counted, but still …
 
What do you base those numbers on? I think Trump can do better than the average GOPer, but I have never seen him with anything close to 30% of the black vote.
Thank you! I’ve been reading the posts on here today and wondering when FollowChrist34 is going to say “April Fools!” and we’ll all say “Oh right, the old wait-three-weeks-so-everyone-forgets-about-april-fools-day trick.”

P.S. Actually, even what you said " I think Trump can do better than the average GOPer" (assuming you mean with minorities) makes me say :hypno:
 
Yes. A few days ago I saw an interview with Alan Dershowitz, he was Cruz’s law professor, and said he was brilliant, principled and consistently conservative and one of his best students ever so definitely highly intelligent.
I’m proud to support Senator Cruz. I think he could win the general ,too.
Well of course I trust Mr. Dershowitz :rolleyes:
 
Well of course I trust Mr. Dershowitz :rolleyes:
Why make a snide remark. Being the good liberal that he is, Dershowitz said what he believed to be true. He did not advocate that Cruz be elected president. Don’t you think Republicans can be intelligent?
 
I think, considering how Trump is rising and Cruz seems to be treading water, that the American Republican voters have spoken–and as usual, they are saying that social issues (life, marriage, family) are not as important to them as is immigration, defense and the economy.

We are a pro-abortion, anti-marriage and anti-family nation by choice. We did not get to this place by accident, “We the People” have voted in ways that ensured we would be right where we are and no matter how many of the foundations of our culture are attacked, we continue to vote the same way (cycle after cycle after cycle). Those supporting Trump view themselves as being against the establishment, and while in sense that may be true, in a real sense they are really voting for more of the same (they just refuse to see that). If people really wanted to make an impact, they’d vote for an authentic pro-life person (not a pro-life because he needs to be person)–they’d also vote for someone who cares about the family and marriage. But instead, we’ll get a hawk again, someone who wants to take it to the world.

In truth, Cruz is our last hope this cycle to get someone who will fight for the things that should matter to all people of faith–but, he has little to no chance.

No matter how people choose to fool themselves–there won’t be a wafer of difference between a Trump Presidency versus a Clinton Presidency. They’ll both do nothing about abortion, do nothing about the family, do nothing about marriage. They’ll both be hawkish toward the world and they’ll both claim they have the answers to our economy. I suppose the only real difference is the immigration issue–yet even with that, Trump will learn there will be little he can do without help from others.

With a Trump or Clinton Presidency, unborn babies will continue to be slaughtered at the clip of one million or more a year, families will still fall into ruin, marriage rates will continue to plummet and those critical foundations will continue to erode.

And Trump will not nominate strong conservatives to the SC–he will want to be seen as someone who gets things done, so he’ll pick people who are seen as reasonable picks on both sides.

For all the disdain people throw at Cruz, the man has guts and he does not back away from a fight. He is disliked in Congress for a reason–he does not give the fight even though all the rest of his collegaues did.
 
Why make a snide remark. Being the good liberal that he is, Dershowitz said what he believed to be true. He did not advocate that Cruz be elected president. Don’t you think Republicans can be intelligent?
Paint your opponent as evil, mean, racist, dumb, bigoted, homophobic, etc.

Then you don’t have to actually argue against their views. You just label them evil and can dismiss everything they say. It’s a standard tactic of much of the left.
 
Paint your opponent as evil, mean, racist, dumb, bigoted, homophobic, etc.

Then you don’t have to actually argue against their views. You just label them evil and can dismiss everything they say. It’s a standard tactic of much of the left.
And the right. When I read all those adjectives above, I thought you were going to launch into another attack on Hillary Clinton, a person who has been unfairly demonized more than any other. Sure, she’s not perfect. Sure, she’s made mistakes. But she sincerely cares about the American public.
 
Why make a snide remark. Being the good liberal that he is, Dershowitz said what he believed to be true. He did not advocate that Cruz be elected president. Don’t you think Republicans can be intelligent?
Alan Dershowitz is a Harvard Law professor. He based his statement on his experience with Cruz.

He’s not allowed to give an opinion because Cruz is a Republican? :confused:
 
And the right. When I read all those adjectives above, I thought you were going to launch into another attack on Hillary Clinton, a person who has been unfairly demonized more than any other.
To some extent I agree.

Now we’ve got many Republicans saying “anyone but Clinton” and that, essentially, they’ll support whichever candidate can beat her. Now for the record I absolutely do not believe the line that we’re being fed about Trump being able to beat her … but even if I did I would never make that the sole criterion for how I cast my vote next Tuesday.
 
Paint your opponent as evil, mean, racist, dumb, bigoted, homophobic, etc.

Then you don’t have to actually argue against their views. You just label them evil and can dismiss everything they say. It’s a standard tactic of much of the left.
LOL. How many times have I heard you call Dems evil? Pot meet Kettle.
 
To some extent I agree.

Now we’ve got many Republicans saying “anyone but Clinton” and that, essentially, they’ll support whichever candidate can beat her. Now for the record I absolutely do not believe the line that we’re being fed about Trump being able to beat her … but even if I did I would never make that the sole criterion for how I cast my vote next Tuesday.
👍 Glad to read you consider all the issues no matter who you vote for.
 
Thank you! I’ve been reading the posts on here today and wondering when FollowChrist34 is going to say “**April Fools!” **and we’ll all say “Oh right, the old wait-three-weeks-so-everyone-forgets-about-april-fools-day trick.”

P.S. Actually, even what you said " I think Trump can do better than the average GOPer" (assuming you mean with minorities) makes me say :hypno:
Let’s see what you have to say after next Tuesday. I predict Trump wins all states. As I stated before, he has a very good chance to clinch the nomination outright, before we even get to the convention, or on the first ballot. What is the response of the anti-Trump right to that scenario? Have you thought about it? Seriously. (no, of course not, because the Cruz crusade is taking up all the oxygen - too bad it is a nonstarter)

I caught a glimpse of a Trump speech on TV last night - had my normal cringe/switch channel ASAP reflex (cannot get through 3 sentences; it is such embarrassing nonsense; I am not watching him at all, so a bit in the dark there). It made me question my new position a little bit, no doubt. Would enough talent and experience in the GOP be willing to associate themselves with Trump in order to build an administration. I wouldn’t do it. Why do I expect them to.

:hypno:

So, dead end either way.

Kasich - he is our last hope; this could well be my new argument; am thinking it over. At least he is electable. (can you imagine the irony if this is what happens?)

:doh2:

I am still voting for Cruz in my primary. I think the Tuesday Eastern state voters out there should vote Cruz too.
 
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