December Republican Primary Poll

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Anyone else think that Tim Pawlenty is starting to regret dropping from the race?
Yes or if he’s not, he should be. Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC was certain Tim would unite all aspects of the GOP and emerge as the nominee. Then he dropped out after Bachmann won the straw poll. And since then she’s fallen. Perry has risen and fallen. Herman rose and fell. Newt made a comeback. Paul has risen some. Don’t understand what is wrong with Santorum in the Iowa GOP voters’ eyes.
 
Amen to that. Come on people do you really think voters would change their minds about a candidate they were supporting because of an off the wall remark?

I think the $10K bet wasn’t to flaunt his very obvious personal wealth but to demonstrate that he was SO sure the statement was not in the book, he’d be willing to bet a substantial amount. If he’d bet a dollar well who cares? I would have preferred the Bill O’Reilly bet format of loser pays $XXX to the winner’s favorite charity. But I think the answer was not rehearsed and just spur of the moment. It will blow over with the next dopey remark by candidate x,y, or z.

Lisa
Oh yeah!!! I was going to mention the Bill O’Reilly way of betting as well. He makes a lot of bets, but most of them are “if you’re wrong you give $5,000 to my charities, if I’m wrong I’ll give $5,000 to your charities”.

He also does a lot of steak dinner bets. Which, I’m sure a lot of people bet steak dinners with each other. However, I would not want to see a steak dinner with Rick Perry and Mitt Romney. Those 2 + steak knives + bloody red meat = recipe for disaster :D.
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Anyone else think that Tim Pawlenty is starting to regret dropping from the race?
I believe he was campaigning for Romney the other day. The thing with Pawlenty is, he wanted to start out as a top tier candidate. That almost happened. Then, he saw it wasn’t going to so he backed out rather than becoming an after thought “also ran” that no one noticed and trying to slowly get attention back.

Ironically, that’s exactly what Newt Gingrich did not do. He could’ve dropped out, but instead he endured 3 months of obscurity, and now he’s the frontrunner.

John McCain once had to carry his own bags onto the airplane during his campaign. He became our nominee.

It would appear that the nomination process requires a good deal of grit and determination to get through the rough patches. I like that quality that has developed. Plus Americans love an underdog… even if they love them more on American Idol than in politics.

So, I guess my answer is Pawlenty should regret it, but I dislike him for his lake of grit to man up and tough it out when the going got rough.
 
It might not hurt his campaign at all. And sure people know these guys are rich. But in these times, like John Edwards paying hundreds of dollars for a haircut, they might not want to hear about it. Especially to hear it shoved into their face with an offer by one candidate to make a $10,000 bet with the TX governor about what is in the candidate’s own book. There are hard working Americans striving to make ends meet for their families months upon months with a total of $10,000.
Romney just handed over the election to Obama with his “$10,000 bet” comment. Which is to say: we all better pray for Newt right now, because Obama’s likely popping the bubbly right about now.
I do not agree at all, Obama can’t make out like he is on par with low or middle income families, he bought his house in Chicago for $1.6 million dollars. He is a multi millionaire. The Obama’s tax returns from 2010 show they had an income of $1.7 million dollars in 2010.
 
I agree. I don’t think it is a campaign killer. Do people really think that voters weren’t aware that Romney could afford a $10,000 bet? Really?

It is the same silly assumption that Roy5 keeps making about Gingrich’s account at Tiffany. 🤷

The voting public knows these guys are rich…including Obama. What they are looking for is someone to fix our ailing economy.
Exactly.
 
Yes or if he’s not, he should be. Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC was certain Tim would unite all aspects of the GOP and emerge as the nominee. Then he dropped out after Bachmann won the straw poll. And since then she’s fallen. Perry has risen and fallen. Herman rose and fell. Newt made a comeback. Paul has risen some. Don’t understand what is wrong with Santorum in the Iowa GOP voters’ eyes.
I think Tim Pawlenty was BORING. I have to think about what he looks like. (Can’t even remember what he looks like - that’s not good.) I do remember what Christie looks like, because of his size (his BMI’s easily satirized on SNL) - when our nation has a big obesity problem, he’s probably not the best guy to put forward. Santorum’s problem? You can’t Google him without getting porn. That’s a huge problem. I just really wonder why all the people who were so rah-rah for Sarah Palin have thrown Sarah Bachmann under the bus - I hope once (if) Romney secures the nomination, he’ll give the VP to Bachmann if not Huntsman, because Obama’s re-election is as guaranteed as a Best Picture Oscar win for Woody Allen’s “Midnight in Paris.”
 
I think Tim Pawlenty was BORING. I have to think about what he looks like. (Can’t even remember what he looks like - that’s not good.) I do remember what Christie looks like, because of his size (his BMI’s easily satirized on SNL) - when our nation has a big obesity problem, he’s probably not the best guy to put forward. Santorum’s problem? You can’t Google him without getting porn. That’s a huge problem. I just really wonder why all the people who were so rah-rah for Sarah Palin have thrown Sarah Bachmann under the bus - I hope once (if) Romney secures the nomination, he’ll give the VP to Bachmann if not Huntsman, because Obama’s re-election is as guaranteed as a Best Picture Oscar win for Woody Allen’s “Midnight in Paris.”
I like Bachmann, but she’s no Palin in my book. Bachmann would make a good tax policy adviser or something.
 
I like Bachmann, but she’s no Palin in my book. Bachmann would make a good tax policy adviser or something.
Exactly. She’s a former tax attorney (attorneys go to law school and study the law) and she has been to the Middle East. She’s also the only GOP nominee who, from what I gather, believes in the notion of, quote unquote, “SSA,” which is a hot topic for so many CAF’s. She also has the most children - fostered, adopted, whatever - so she’s the most credible “pro-life” candidate among the bunch. **Yeah, she’s no Palin **- thank goodness. 🙂
 
Exactly. She’s a former tax attorney (attorneys go to law school and study the law) and she has been to the Middle East. She’s also the only GOP nominee who, from what I gather, believes in the notion of, quote unquote, “SSA,” which is a hot topic for so many CAF’s. She also has the most children - fostered, adopted, whatever - so she’s the most credible “pro-life” candidate among the bunch. **Yeah, she’s no Palin **- thank goodness. 🙂
As far as the SSA, the children and all that I’m sure here and Palin are on the same page so that’s a pointless argument.

The difference between Palin and Bachmann is purely in leadership and motivation capability. Palin did some great things for the state of Alaska.

Again, I’m not going to get into it over these two as I do like both, but there are some obvious difference and Palins not running so it’s a waste of time.
 
I’m still going with Rick Santorum unless and until he is no longer a possibility. I’ve then, after countless hours of debate watching, and news surfing developed my descending order, so that if and when my top contender is gone, then I have my next candidate of choice all lined up. I’ll continue to watch the news and the debates, and modify if necessary, though it gets more solid as we’ve been going along. This order has pretty much stuck in my mnd for several weeks now, and Santorum has been #1 for two months or more. I think that spot is pretty fixed in my mind.

Santorum
Gingrich (recent move up over Perry)
Perry
Bachmann
Romney
The Constitution Party candidate (Not sure who it is yet. They’re encouraging Virgil Goode)
Paul
Huntsman
Cain
 
I think Tim Pawlenty was BORING. I have to think about what he looks like. (Can’t even remember what he looks like - that’s not good.) I do remember what Christie looks like, because of his size (his BMI’s easily satirized on SNL) - when our nation has a big obesity problem, he’s probably not the best guy to put forward. Santorum’s problem? You can’t Google him without getting porn. That’s a huge problem. I just really wonder why all the people who were so rah-rah for Sarah Palin have thrown Sarah Bachmann under the bus - I hope once (if) Romney secures the nomination, he’ll give the VP to Bachmann if not Huntsman, because Obama’s re-election is as guaranteed as a Best Picture Oscar win for Woody Allen’s “Midnight in Paris.”
Well I have to agree Pawlenty was not the most charismatic character. I’ve never googled Santorum. What I don’t understand is since this is a Republican year and anyone can beat Obama, why others didn’t decide to enter the race.
 
While I don’t agree with Mr Paul on many key issues, inferring that he is engaging in anti-semitism does not seem to be a fair depiction of his policies.
I could be wrong about him entirely, but antisemitism is a strong charge to level at someone without overwhelming proof.

Following polices that would deliberately imperil Israel could well be depicted as antisemitic. While Mr Paul may indeed be imperiling Israel with his foreign policy, I cannot see any malice motivating him.
Not something I take lightly either. He has a long history of anti-Semitic remarks. Jewish columnists and spokesmen frequently mention his anti-Semitic attitude. Further his support for Iran doing what they wish with regard to nuclear weapons when Iran has stated that it (among other Islamic countries) will blow Israel off the face of the earth leads me to count him out completely as a serious Presidential candidate.

Too bad as he does have some good ideas regarding fiscal policy.
 
I’m still going with Rick Santorum unless and until he is no longer a possibility. I’ve then, after countless hours of debate watching, and news surfing developed my descending order, so that if and when my top contender is gone, then I have my next candidate of choice all lined up. I’ll continue to watch the news and the debates, and modify if necessary, though it gets more solid as we’ve been going along. This order has pretty much stuck in my mnd for several weeks now, and Santorum has been #1 for two months or more. I think that spot is pretty fixed in my mind.

Santorum
Gingrich (recent move up over Perry)
Perry
Bachmann
Romney
The Constitution Party candidate (Not sure who it is yet. They’re encouraging Virgil Goode)
Paul
Huntsman
Cain
Always good to have a back up plan. 👍
 
I have heard some reasons for Newt’s sudden rise and seeming forgiveness of his piles of baggage: What many want more than anything in a candidate is someone who will take it to Obama. Remember the flurry of support for Donald Trump? We have the Donald’s pugnaciousness with a serious candidate in Newt. There is so much pent up anger that many voters would vote for the devil himself if they thought he’d pound Obama…rhetorically of course!

Asked why support of Newt and the answers are not that “he balanced the budget” (decades ago) or “he won the House for the Republicans” or “I like his position on XYZ”
Rather it’s “I can’t wait to see him debate Obama.” “He doesn’t mind talking tough about Obama.” “He calls out the liberal media for what it is.”

Ironically the Tea Party, the conservative side of the party which espouses family values is willing to overlook the affairs, the broken marriages, the side by side with Nancy Pelosi, the gaffs about when life begins. They say well he’s changed and has asked for forgiveness.

Even more ironic is that the same people willing to believe Newt changed his mind about global warming, faithfulness to one’s spouse, life issues etc are slamming Romney as a flip flopper, as not trustworthy, as a fake.

Do ya’ll see the hypocrisy? Good grief.

That being said I like Newt, admire his intelligence and guts, and would vote for him in a heartbeat. But I think he’s not that electable in an open election. I hope we dont’ make the same mistake as last time in the primaries getting a bunch of unelectable candidates.

Lisa A
 
Not something I take lightly either. He has a long history of anti-Semitic remarks. Jewish columnists and spokesmen frequently mention his anti-Semitic attitude. Further his support for Iran doing what they wish with regard to nuclear weapons when Iran has stated that it (among other Islamic countries) will blow Israel off the face of the earth leads me to count him out completely as a serious Presidential candidate.

Too bad as he does have some good ideas regarding fiscal policy.
Please provide some direct quotes from Dr. Paul. Not paraphrased opinions, but full context quotes.
 
I have heard some reasons for Newt’s sudden rise and seeming forgiveness of his piles of baggage: What many want more than anything in a candidate is someone who will take it to Obama. Remember the flurry of support for Donald Trump? We have the Donald’s pugnaciousness with a serious candidate in Newt. There is so much pent up anger that many voters would vote for the devil himself if they thought he’d pound Obama…rhetorically of course!

Asked why support of Newt and the answers are not that “he balanced the budget” (decades ago) or “he won the House for the Republicans” or “I like his position on XYZ”
Rather it’s “I can’t wait to see him debate Obama.” “He doesn’t mind talking tough about Obama.” “He calls out the liberal media for what it is.”

Ironically the Tea Party, the conservative side of the party which espouses family values is willing to overlook the affairs, the broken marriages, the side by side with Nancy Pelosi, the gaffs about when life begins. They say well he’s changed and has asked for forgiveness.

Even more ironic is that the same people willing to believe Newt changed his mind about global warming, faithfulness to one’s spouse, life issues etc are slamming Romney as a flip flopper, as not trustworthy, as a fake.

Do ya’ll see the hypocrisy? Good grief.

That being said I like Newt, admire his intelligence and guts, and would vote for him in a heartbeat. But I think he’s not that electable in an open election. I hope we dont’ make the same mistake as last time in the primaries getting a bunch of unelectable candidates like Sharron Angle or Christine O’Donnell. I still like Bill Buckley’s standard of the most conservative who can win!

Lisa A
 
Romney just handed over the election to Obama with his “$10,000 bet” comment. Which is to say: we all better pray for Newt right now, because Obama’s likely popping the bubbly right about now.
Here apparently was Rick Perry’s take on Romney’s offer to bet him $10,000. " I was taken a little aback" by Mitt Romney’s wager, Perry said on Fox News Sunday, Politico reports. “Driving out to the station this morning I’m pretty sure I didn’t drive by a house that anyone in Iowa would think a $10,000 bet was possible. It was a little out of touch with the normal Iowa citizen.”

But then Romney supporter John H Sununu had this to say. “He used a figure of speech,” Sununu said. “I think the only thing that will come out of that is to remind people about a $500,000 outstanding bill at Tiffany’s.”

I just presume he was referring to Newt’s revolvng line of credit for jewelry.

newser.com/story/135172/perry-i-was-taken-aback-by-10k-bet.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=inbox&utm_campaign=newser
 
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