Deciding to homeschool?

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How do we know a little competition won’t help the schools? We have never really tried it.
Sure we have; that’s exactly what private schools are already. And what happens? There is less money and less caring parents available for the public schools that most need it - and I say that as one of those parents who has abandoned a school district that needs parents like me.
My friend who now runs a homeschooling business and was injured at a public school due to “premeditated negligence” is STILL deeply involved in making public schools better. She taught for 15 years.

My relative who teaches is in a Vo-tech highschool. He knows he makes a world of difference. He homeschooled his kids but refuses to teach anywhere else (private or charter)–he said he knows what impact he can make.
 
You are assuming the only way we can meet our responsibilities to educate the children in our society is through the government via taxes. That’s not necessarily true.

It is true it is how the US typically does it and we have the infrastructure in place to continue to do so. But that doesn’t mean it has to happen that way.

What I always find interesting about the voucher discussion is there is an assumption of “good student flight” which indicates there is a problem with our current system AND WE AREN’T FIXING IT. So we doom more kids to the public school system because we want to maintain the illusion of doing something. Kinda messed up.
 
You are assuming the only way we can meet our responsibilities to educate the children in our society is through the government via taxes. That’s not necessarily true.

It is true it is how the US typically does it and we have the infrastructure in place to continue to do so. But that doesn’t mean it has to happen that way.

What I always find interesting about the voucher discussion is there is an assumption of “good student flight” which indicates there is a problem with our current system AND WE AREN’T FIXING IT. So we doom more kids to the public school system because we want to maintain the illusion of doing something. Kinda messed up.
In America, unless we undergo a radical shift taxes to pay for education is not going to change. Like you mention we’d have to have a complete revision of how people contribute to society…and it’s not happening anytime soon. There are bigger fish to fry.

I’m not arguing anti-voucher. Never did. I’m simply arguing pro people contributing no matter how they educate their children–and even if they have no children. I really don’t care to discuss vouchers. What matters is that there is an educational opportunity free to the parent and appropriate for the child on demand.

Those parents who don’t contribute, those parents whose children are adding to the degradation of public schools? Those are the parents who wouldn’t bother to send their kids if they had to pay. And kids deserve to go to school.
 
I don’t know how old your kids are, but one thing that I’m shocked no one has brought up is - how do your kids feel?
Obviously the discussion is moot if they’re too young to fully understand the difference between homeschool and public school, but it’s worth mentioning.

I went to public school all my life and now I’m attending a public college, and in my opinion - I might have benefited from homeschooling at a young age, but I’m very glad I went to public school later on. Some of the most useful skills that I have today were developed in a classroom environment - groupwork, leadership, public speaking, networking and forming social connections. Not to mention that most of my significant role models as a child/teenager were my teachers - without them to look up to, I don’t even know who I would be.

Homeschooling because you think you an provide a better quality education than the public school is one thing (I was very lucky to attend a pretty high-quality public high school, but I know that a lot of them out there are an absolute wreck, so that might be a valid concern) but if your goal is to shield and protect your kid from the outside world, I would be wary. First of all, do you really want your kid to grow up without meaningful exposure to more than one way of thinking? I get that you want your kid to have certain values, but how substantial will their committment to those values be if it’s developed based on…it being the only option? Second of all, what will happen when they get older and suddenly have exposure to new ideas, with nothing to guide them through it? I feel that if your goal is to raise your kid a particular way, it’s better to let them experience the outside world and mingle with folks of diverse backgrounds while they’re still young and receptive to your guidance.

I don’t doubt that homeschooling can be done well, but I’ve met so many kids who were homeschooled and ended up with underdeveloped skills that hurt them when they finally had to enter a classroom environment in college. Ranging from basic academic skills like reading and math, to more “general success skills” like how to give a powerpoint presentation or write a study guide.

And again, because it’s worth mentioning twice - talk to your kids! At the end of the day, they’re the ones being affected by this decision. And every situation is different. I was a socially inept little kid who needed deep immersion in a group environment just to figure out how to talk to people - a bubbly kid who befriends everyone they meet will feel less pressure to actively develop that skill. I went to a very good high school filled to the brim with academically motivated students - peer pressure was what encouraged me to work harder and develop myself intellectually. A poor school system with a genuinly concerning population constitutes a different risk for public schooling. My mother never could have homeschooled, even if she wanted to, because she is just not focused and disciplined enough to be an effective teacher. Other parents are more capable. So…think about it, and try to tailor your solution to yourself, your kids, and your environment.
 
Actually, those parents wouldn’t bother to send their kids even if it s free…they do because of truancy laws.

I only brought up vouchers because that’s the next step if we do shift away from a tax supported-system.
 
Actually, those parents wouldn’t bother to send their kids even if it s free…they do because of truancy laws.

I only brought up vouchers because that’s the next step if we do shift away from a tax supported-system.
Perhaps when the children are older–but pre-k and even kindergarten fall below compulsory attendance and in the places, they are free to parents (ie taxpayers are footing the bill) many who don’t care about education send their children there because it’s someone else watching their kid. Attendance in free-to-parents programs for children under the age of compulsory attendance is waitlist only in many communities—and most of the time it’s not because the parents care about education.
 
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First, we all USE public schools, in the sense that our society relies on an educated populace. As the saying goes, pay for schools now or prisons later. My tax dollars that go to public schools are an investment, not theft.

That said, yes, we homeschool and love it. We have used a variety of materials, including the listed below:

Abecedarian (reading…my daughter is dyslexic and this is actually working)
Christian Light Education Math (from a Mennonite company, but excellent old fashioned math)
The Story of Civilization (Catholic history curriculum…we use the audio books in the car!)
The Story of the Bible (Catholic Bible curriculum…we use the audio books in the car)
Layers of Learning (includes history, art, science and geography)
Seton Handwriting for Young Catholics
Seton American History for Young Catholics
Pioneers and Patriots (gentle introduction to American History in the form of stories…love it)
Mater Amabilis (free Catholic Charlotte Mason curriculum)
Mother of Divine Grace (Catholic Charlotte Mason style curriculum, we mainly use the booklists and crafts)
 
It’s not an either/or. You can homeschool, use a private school, and use public school, all during the same school year, even. As for homeschool itself, you can use tutors, or join a co-op, or use prefab curriculum as already mentioned. There is a world of flexibility in educating children. It’s a lot of work but that’s the case with only picking one option (homeschool-only, public school only, private school only, etc.)

We have to a la carte and our response these days to “what are you doing for your kids’ education” is “all of it.” Even unschooling from time to time.
 
I’m talking specifically about the education that culminates in a high school degree and allows acceptance at a college or other training program of their choosing which allows them to be self sufficient in their adulthood.
 
pay for schools now or prisons later.
I pay for my kid’s schools. That’s as it should be. And those who want to send their kids to public schools should pay for it. You pay your way I’ll pay mine.
 
And if they don’t or can’t? All of society suffers, including you.
 
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If parents don’t value education, won’t spend money on it, and don’t care, I do NOT want their children to pay the price. You seem willing to allow that, rather than have compulsory public education. i don’t wish to visit the sins of the parents upon the children.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand, the Facebook page and blog by the name Catholic All Year is a wealth of homeschooling information 🙂
 
If parents don’t value education, won’t spend money on it, and don’t care, I do NOT want their children to pay the price.
I agree with you there. I value education and I spend a lot of money on it. My children reap the rewards.
You seem willing to allow that, rather than have compulsory public education.
Absolutely.
i don’t wish to visit the sins of the parents upon the children.
It’s sinful to not want to pay for public schools that are inherently hostile towards Christian values?
 
If parents don’t value education, won’t spend money on it, and don’t care, I do NOT want their children to pay the price. You seem willing to allow that, rather than have compulsory public education. i don’t wish to visit the sins of the parents upon the children.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand, the Facebook page and blog by the name Catholic All Year is a wealth of homeschooling information 🙂
THIS!

We take for granted that people value education.

Where I grew up no parent would have sent their kid to school if it wasn’t free. They cared about the free daycare, not the actual education. “Upper-grade” truancy was very common because a parent would rather their 10, 11 etc year old watch their toddler siblings than go to school. And it wasn’t always so they could work. It’s only been in the last 20 years or so that compulsory school attendance has been moved from 12/13 to 16/17 in many states

I am glad that the “big bad non-Christian” government forced my parents to make me go to school. They weren’t good people. They did bad things. And eventually, I was adopted by good people who put a lot of value on Catholic teachings, education and personal rights.

It is easy to assume that parents value education or even any skill. My parents–and my freinds parents–were not farmers. We wouldn’t have had anything to do but get into mischief or watch TV all day. (that’s what our summers looked like)
 
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Yes if you would rather keep your money than make sure every child gets a basic education, I’d say that is sinful. And maybe YOU wouldn’t…maybe YOU would donate tons of money to private school scholarships. Many others would NOT donate. And even if EVERYONE donated that still wouldn’t fix the problem that some parents wouldn’t bother to send their kids there or get that paperwork done for a scholarship. And you are okay with those kids losing out, through no fault of their own. I call that sinful, yes, because it is selfish.

But again, I think Libertarianism goes counter to Catholic Social Teaching.

I’ve been tempted by a bumper sticker I saw, “Libertarian? Buy Your Own Roads!”
 
I’ve been tempted by a bumper sticker I saw, “Libertarian? Buy Your Own Roads!”
Uh huh. You believe in forcing them to pay for your roads, and then telling them to build their own as well. You want both worlds. That’s the same with education. And I’m the sinful one?

People like you are only happy when you are controlling others. If that’s being Christian then I want nothing to do with Christianity.
 
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you missed the point of the sticker - if you don’t want to pay taxes toward public roads, fine. See how far you’d get only driving on roads you pay for privately. It would be unworkable.
 
I did not miss the point at all. That’s the old worn out chest beating self righteous pap spread by those who already have their roads built and paid for partially by those who object to being taxed for it. I’ve been in the road design and construction business for 34 years and I guarantee you that the private sector does it better at one third of the price of your tax dollar roads.
 
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