Dem strategist Rosen: Ann Romney ‘never actually worked a day in her life’ [VIDEO]

[catharina]

Of course. Concluding with “Let’s declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance” surely is the sign of a contrite heart.

Sure, oil on the waters.
She insulted generations of Stay At Home mothers
and now says ‘hey - let’s forget the whole thing.’

Good thinking, Miss Rosen.
Perfect solution — for you.

 

[SamH]

You forget to put this last part in quotes and link it.

Maybe you were influenced by this Romney quote, "“Women account for 92.3 percent of the jobs lost under Obama” which has been fact checked as “mostly false”

Your link actually says the opposite.

We reached out to Gary Steinberg, spokesman for the BLS, for his take on the claim. He pointed out that women’s job losses are high for that period of time because millions of men had already lost their jobs. Women were next.

"Between January 2009 and March 2012 men lost 57,000 jobs, while women lost 683,000 jobs.

 

[seekerz]

Sure, oil on the waters.
She insulted generations of Stay At Home mothers
and now says ‘hey - let’s forget the whole thing.’

Good thinking, Miss Rosen.
Perfect solution — for you.

I’ve been a stay at home mom and it wouldn’t insult me to have someone working outside the home, point out that I couldn’t possibly know her stresses over being laid off and not being able to get back on the job market and provide her kids basic needs…some economic realities we’d have in common, others we wouldn’t. That’s just the truth; offense over something like that, is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[scipio337]

I’ve been a stay at home mom and it wouldn’t insult me to have someone working outside the home, point out that I couldn’t possibly know her stresses over being laid off and not being able to get back on the job market and provide her kids basic needs…some economic realities we’d have in common, others we wouldn’t. That’s just the truth; offense over something like that, is in the eye of the beholder.

So Ann Romney’s role as a stay at home mother makes her unable to comment on “what women really care about” regarding the economy.

And we’re back to square one!

 

[irishpatrick]

I’ve been a stay at home mom and it wouldn’t insult me to have someone working outside the home, point out that I couldn’t possibly know her stresses over being laid off and not being able to get back on the job market and provide her kids basic needs…some economic realities we’d have in common, others we wouldn’t. That’s just the truth; offense over something like that, is in the eye of the beholder.

Oh puleeeeze…

A stay-at-home Mother or Father is dependent on the other spouse’s income. If the working spouse loses their job, it is a direct and enormous stress on the stay-at-home parent.

It is called a MARRIAGE for a reason.

 

[estesbob]

seekerz;9175184**:

So what’s the problem with Rosen pointing out that Mrs Romney has never been personally involved in that war?

The comment would not have been necessary (or justified) had Romney not put his wife out there as his resource person for these concerns.

Ask Rosen-she evidently realized what she said was so egregious she apologized for it.

 

[seekerz]

Oh puleeeeze…

A stay-at-home Mother or Father is dependent on the other spouse’s income. If the working spouse loses their job, it is a direct and enormous stress on the stay-at-home parent.

It is called a MARRIAGE for a reason.

Romney was, in his “Obama’s waging war on women” strategy, specifically referencing the employment rate of women: that was what Rosen was asked about and what she responded to with the observation on Mrs Romney’s experience.

I wonder how many people on here condemning Rosen, even took the time to watch the video of the interview exchange or read a transcript.

 

[markomalley]

Mitt Romney is such a vulnerable candidate, that even nearing the end of a negative Republican primary battle, Mitt is running even with Barack Obama among likely voters in swing states, which for an incumbent president is terrible.

Hilary Rosen may have done the Romney campaign a huge favor, the ‘war on women’ nonsense can now be turned around on Democrats.

What about the Obama White House’s record with women?

freebeacon.com/hostile-workplace

Here’s the beautiful thing about this Chicago-style campaign that I don’t think most are picking up on.

This has been a major topic of all the news now for two full news cycles (yesterday and today). It will, in all likelihood, carry on to a third news cycle and will probably be a topic for discussion all weekend long.

An Obama surrogate said it. It has been disavowed…almost immediately. And repeatedly. But it is still being talked about. And the more it is disavowed, the more it will be discussed. On the right, in the center, on the left. It will feature in a large way on the evening news tonight. And maybe tomorrow. People will be talking about how horrible it is to attack an innocent woman who was just lucky enough to be able to stay at home and care for her family.

That is EXACTLY what Obama/Axelrod want them to do. Exactly.

Because it is an early brush stroke of their portrait of Romney. A painting that will portray him as a rich white guy that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, doesn’t live in the same reality as most Americans, he was an evil wall street tycoon who put people out of work (Bain Capital), and, worst of all, is a (((hush))) (((said in whispered tones))) A Mormon (and we all know how weird their beliefs are…like _(fill in the blank), _(fill in the blank), _(fill in the blank), _(fill in the blank)) *(Note to anybody who wants to hit the “abuse” button: I am not saying this nor am ***I **making an accusation or characterization of that belief system…I am saying that this will be the campaign strategy of his opponent)

Again, note that I don’t see anything wrong with her being a stay at home mom. Nothing at all. I know how hard they work (I see how hard my mom worked and how hard my wife works).

But they are, right now, planting the seeds of doubt in peoples’ heads…with full assistance and support of the media. All part of painting a picture.

And Mr. Romney is going to be an extraordinarily easy subject to paint. You won’t see the results in the polls, by the way, until the painting is complete.

Although it’s evil as *****, it is brilliantly evil.

And that, _Abyssinia, is why I said what I said in the OP.

 

[seekerz]

Ask Rosen-she evidently realized what she said was so egregious she apologized for it.

She more likely was pressured to apologize…by the same people who went around apologizing for the first real attempt to make health care in this country available to all. Go figure. It’s a wonder they haven’t apologized for winning in '08.

 

[_Abyssinia]

She did release a statement apologizing to Ann Romney and anyone else who may have been offended.

Eh, she knew exactly what she was saying and why she was saying it.

If did Hilary Rosen’s apology was sincere, why did she link in the apology, to a CNN article she had written essentially making the claim Ann Romney can not speak for women because she is a stay at home mother? Hilary Rosen does not think Ann Romney is qualified at representing women because she is a stay at home mother, that is what said in the article.

 

[Jerry_Miah]

Your link actually says the opposite.

Um, no it doesn’t. How is it you can read an article and pull out one sentence and then try to claim the article says the opposite of its own conclusion? It’s really hard to know how to take your post, or trust your intentions in a discussion, when you do such a thing.

Romney’s website said that women account for 92.3 percent of jobs lost under Obama.

By comparing job figures with January 2009 and March 2012 and weighing them against women’s job figures from the same periods, Saul came up with 92.3 percent. The numbers are accurate but quite misleading. First, Obama cannot be held entirely accountable for the employment picture on the day he took office, just as he could not be given credit if times had been booming. Second, by choosing figures from January 2009, months into the recession, the statement ignored the millions of jobs lost before then, when most of the job loss fell on men. In every recession, men are the first to take the hit, followed by women. It’s a historical pattern, Stevenson told us, not an effect of Obama’s policies.

There is a small amount of truth to the claim, but it ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False.

 

[SamH]

Um, no it doesn’t. How is it you can read an article and pull out one sentence and then try to claim the article says the opposite of its own conclusion? It’s really hard to know how to take your post, or trust your intentions in a discussion, when you do such a thing.

Your source agrees with what was said then claims they should have said something else. The statement was correct but Politifact didn’t like it.

 

[_Abyssinia]

It was challenged specifically because candidate Romney, in defining what he refers to as Obama’s ‘real war on women’, cited primarily the loss of women’s jobs. In the interview Rosen was responding to a question prefaced by comments on the poor recovery of women’s jobs.

She began her response by referring to Romney’s above-mentioned strategy, and in the context of Romney’s own admission that he gets reports on what women really care about from his wife, pointed out that that Mrs Romney is hardly the person to give such insight since she has never held a job outside the home.

Of course, most of the pundits whose heads are exploding on their blogs, already know all of this and it’s likely they understand it fully well. What is perhaps less clear to said pundits, is exactly how Romney makes a better choice for president than Obama - even from a purely conservative perspective. Far easier to have fake conniptions over supposed attacks on stay at home moms, it seems.

There is nothing wrong with what Mitt said, Ann is not running for president, she is not a politician so she can not comment in detail about jobs. Romney’s assertions have nothing do with Hilary Rosen making a rude comment that Ann Romney can not speak for women because she is a stay at home mother, and Hilary Rosen says certain lifestyle choices disqualify you from representing women, seeming to mean if you are a stay at home mother. Hilary Rosen did not specify that Ann Romney is not qualified to speak about jobs.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Puny because if the Republicans restart the “War on Women” with this, it will be Rosen Who? vs. transvaginal ultrasound mandates, retrogressive birth control rethinks and Rush Limbaugh’s 3-day “slut” hate-tirade. I think the GOP had better get some powder before they worry about keeping it dry.

There is no Republican ‘war on women.’ Do you realize that in counties like Saudi Arabia women can not vote?

Planned Parenthood already do transvaginal ultrasounds in 99% of clinics, do you think they have a ‘war on women?’

Birth control is legal, you can buy it for $9 at Walmart and Target, where is the Republican ‘war on women?’

Rush Limbaugh apologized, but he is just a radio host, he is not a member of the Republican national Committee. Hilary Rosen is a part of the Demcorat National Committee and has met personally with Barack Obama 5 times, been to the White House 35 times.

 

[Jerry_Miah]

Your source agrees with what was said then claims they should have said something else. The statement was correct but Politifact didn’t like it.

Well, please read the article, or even just the one paragraph conclusion, to see how you are factually incorrect. In short, the one statistic you cited was used out of all context to other factors and out of context of the time periods. It’s not too difficult, just read it.

 

[Jerry_Miah]

There is no Republican ‘war on women.’ Do you realize that in counties like Saudi Arabia women can not vote and have to minded by a man every time they step out the door.

Planned Parenthood already do transvaginal ultrasounds in 99% of clinics, do you think they have a ‘war on women?’

Birth control is legal, you can buy it for $9 at Walmart and Target, where is the Republican ‘war on women?’

Rush Limbaugh apologized, but he is just a radio host, he is not a member of the Republican national Committee. Hilary Rosen is a part of the Demcorat National Committee and has met personally with Barack Obama 5 times, been to the White House 35 times.

You misread. I questioned whether Republicans want to start the debate on the “war on women”. That’s all. So I won’t bother addressing the rest of your factoids unless you want.

 

[SamH]

Well, please read the article, or even just the one paragraph conclusion, to see how you are factually incorrect. In short, the one statistic you cited was used out of all context to other factors and out of context of the time periods. It’s not too difficult, just read it.

I read it.

They admit its correct but claim if you change the dates to something other than what was said it would be wrong. Why change the dates?

 

[seekerz]

Hilary Rosen did not specify that Ann Romney is not qualified to speak about jobs.

Rosen did specifically reference Romney’s dialog on women, Romney started that dialog with, guess what: women’s job statistics. The host referred in his question to, guess what: women’s job statistics. Women with jobs are generally referred to as ‘working women’. Where’s the issue?

 

[seekerz]

If did Hilary Rosen’s apology was sincere, why did she link in the apology, to a CNN article she had written essentially making the claim Ann Romney can not speak for women because she is a stay at home mother? Hilary Rosen does not think Ann Romney is qualified at representing women because she is a stay at home mother, that is what said in the article.

It’s probably as sincere as some recent ones that have made headlines. Guess now the Democrat’s strategy is to apologize in advance because whatever comes out of their mouths is probably going to offend someone’s sensibilities…

 

[meltzerboy]

There is no Republican ‘war on women.’ Do you realize that in counties like Saudi Arabia women can not vote?

Planned Parenthood already do transvaginal ultrasounds in 99% of clinics, do you think they have a ‘war on women?’

Birth control is legal, you can buy it for $9 at Walmart and Target, where is the Republican ‘war on women?’

Rush Limbaugh apologized, but he is just a radio host, he is not a member of the Republican national Committee. Hilary Rosen is a part of the Demcorat National Committee and has met personally with Barack Obama 5 times, been to the White House 35 times.

How about the Ledbetter bill which Obama signed into law, giving women equal pay for equal work, and which Republicans voted overwhelmingly against? There is indeed a Republican War on Women in Congress.