Dems Say It's Time for GOP to Unite, End Shutdown

[jediliz]

didn’t you guys defund PP a long time ago? Are they still around?

they are still around and receiving over 300 MILLION in taxpayers $.

If they have gone away on the local level, its because states have decided to defund them OR they were prayed closed during 40 days for Life campaigns.

 

[_Abyssinia]

didn’t you guys defund PP a long time ago? Are they still around?

Planned Parenthood are getting more money for their affiliates to be navigators for the Affordable Care Act

lifenews.com/2013/09/05/obamacare-takes-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz-to-a-whole-new-level

 

[99th_Monkey]

Obamacare Has Gotten More Popular Since The GOP Shut Down The Government
thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/11/2769271/obamacare-shutdown-popular-poll/

A faction of Tea Party Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) essentially forced a government shutdown to pressure Democrats to delay or defund the health reform law. But that dramatic move hasn’t done anything to convince Americans that Obamacare is a policy they should oppose. According to a new poll, Obamacare is actually gaining in popularity at the same time as the Republican Party has taken extreme measures to take a stand against it.
A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds that 38 percent of Americans say Obamacare is a good idea, which represents a 7-point jump from last month. It’s the third-highest popularity rating for Obamacare — which typically doesn’t poll well as a whole, even though Americans tend to support its individual provisions — since the health law was first enacted.

 

[estesbob]

Obamacare Has Gotten More Popular Since The GOP Shut Down The Government
thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/11/2769271/obamacare-shutdown-popular-poll/

A faction of Tea Party Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) essentially forced a government shutdown to pressure Democrats to delay or defund the health reform law. But that dramatic move hasn’t done anything to convince Americans that Obamacare is a policy they should oppose. According to a new poll, Obamacare is actually gaining in popularity at the same time as the Republican Party has taken extreme measures to take a stand against it.
A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds that 38 percent of Americans say Obamacare is a good idea, which represents a 7-point jump from last month. It’s the third-highest popularity rating for Obamacare — which typically doesn’t poll well as a whole, even though Americans tend to support its individual provisions — since the health law was first enacted.

Shop now just a little under 2/3s disapprove of it.I guess any port in a storm

 

[meltzerboy]

Obamacare Has Gotten More Popular Since The GOP Shut Down The Government
thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/11/2769271/obamacare-shutdown-popular-poll/

A faction of Tea Party Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) essentially forced a government shutdown to pressure Democrats to delay or defund the health reform law. But that dramatic move hasn’t done anything to convince Americans that Obamacare is a policy they should oppose. According to a new poll, Obamacare is actually gaining in popularity at the same time as the Republican Party has taken extreme measures to take a stand against it.
A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds that 38 percent of Americans say Obamacare is a good idea, which represents a 7-point jump from last month. It’s the third-highest popularity rating for Obamacare — which typically doesn’t poll well as a whole, even though Americans tend to support its individual provisions — since the health law was first enacted.

I wonder if any of the Tea Party members have shopped for a healthcare policy under Obamacare? I wouldn’t be surprised if some have and found one to their liking.

 

[ishii]

Obamacare Has Gotten More Popular Since The GOP Shut Down The Government
thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/11/2769271/obamacare-shutdown-popular-poll/

A faction of Tea Party Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) essentially forced a government shutdown to pressure Democrats to delay or defund the health reform law. But that dramatic move hasn’t done anything to convince Americans that Obamacare is a policy they should oppose. According to a new poll, Obamacare is actually gaining in popularity at the same time as the Republican Party has taken extreme measures to take a stand against it.
A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds that 38 percent of Americans say Obamacare is a good idea, which represents a 7-point jump from last month. It’s the third-highest popularity rating for Obamacare — which typically doesn’t poll well as a whole, even though Americans tend to support its individual provisions — since the health law was first enacted.

Only 38% support Obamacare. So why are the Democrats so upset about delaying it? I think they realize that the longer it is in place, the more it will be a fait accompli. Why don’t the Democrats listen to the people? Why would they want to continue this Obamacare in the face of so much opposition?

Ishii

 

[JacobJamesPaul]

Only 38% support Obamacare. So why are the Democrats so upset about delaying it? I think they realize that the longer it is in place, the more it will be a fait accompli. Why don’t the Democrats listen to the people? Why would they want to continue this Obamacare in the face of so much opposition?

Ishii

What’s your source?

 

[SaintAugustine]

I wonder if any of the Tea Party members have shopped for a healthcare policy under Obamacare? I wouldn’t be surprised if some have and found one to their liking.

I’m not a “Tea Party member”, whatever that means, but my company did shop to compare the offerings on the exchange, and coverage costs double or triple with higher out-of-pocket costs for the employees. We opted to take the one year renewal offered by our current plan. Costs went up a little less and out-of-pocket didn’t change. Unfortunately, that is only for a year, and then we have to go with the higher costs. Are you thinking that is “to our liking?” We are a small company, and our hourly employees (the lowest paid) will be screwed by Obamacare.

My company is very generous for a small company and pays 100% of employee premiums. When deductibles and out-of pockets are increased, it is directly increased on the employee, not the business. We only have three hourly employees and two commissioned employees, in addition to the two owners. Small companies are hurt the worst by Obamacare, from what I can tell.

 

[_Abyssinia]

The real test of the Affordable Care Act is are people signing up? 51000 have been said to sign up. If at least 7 million do not sign up for Affordable Care Act, it will struggle to fund itself and likely collapse.

 

[99th_Monkey]

Only 38% support Obamacare. So why are the Democrats so upset about delaying it? I think they realize that the longer it is in place, the more it will be a fait accompli. Why don’t the Democrats listen to the people? Why would they want to continue this Obamacare in the face of so much opposition?

Ishii

The “so much opposition” is only in the minds of the tea party faction and those corporations who run them.

 

[Darryl1958]

ASA has made some winners. 38% sounds about right.
It also ha made a lot of losers. 62 %nmay be ballpark
Mot people are just resigned to the fact that there is nothing useful that can be accomplished by vigorous opposition to a rather mediocre piece of legislation

 

[ishii]

The “so much opposition” is only in the minds of the tea party faction and those corporations who run them.

I am opposed to it and I am neither a tea partier (not that there’s anything wrong with them) nor “run by the corporations.” Are you saying that the polls are wrong? That the 62% who disagree with Obamacare secretly like it?

Ishii

 

[estesbob]

ASA has made some winners. 38% sounds about right.
It also ha made a lot of losers. 62 %nmay be ballpark
Mot people are just resigned to the fact that there is nothing useful that can be accomplished by vigorous opposition to a rather mediocre piece of legislation

And a lot of us just dropped coverage for our employees and contemplate doing without insurance ourselves as premiums skyrocket

 

[estesbob]

I am opposed to it and I am neither a tea partier (not that there’s anything wrong with them) nor “run by the corporations.” Are you saying that the polls are wrong? That the 62% who disagree with Obamacare secretly like it?

Ishii

one of the prime tenants of the left is that anyone who disagrees with them are either dupes, idiots or both.It’s not that they don’t respect other views-it’s that they can’t comprehend there are other views

 

[SaintAugustine]

I am opposed to it and I am neither a tea partier (not that there’s anything wrong with them) nor “run by the corporations.” Are you saying that the polls are wrong? That the 62% who disagree with Obamacare secretly like it?

Ishii

Yeah…I guess 99Monkeys thinks that 62% of the population are “tea partiers.”

 

[meltzerboy]

one of the prime tenants of the left is that anyone who disagrees with them are either dupes, idiots or both.It’s not that they don’t respect other views-it’s that they can’t comprehend there are other views

Yes, too many Far Leftists think that way. Too bad for them and their opponents. I am NOT a liberal who believes so.

 

[ishii]

Yeah…I guess 99Monkeys thinks that 62% of the population are “tea partiers.”

62% of the population tea partiers?

If only. Then we might be able to fix some things.

Ishii

 

[bellasbane]

one of the prime tenants of the left is that anyone who disagrees with them are either dupes, idiots or both.It’s not that they don’t respect other views-it’s that they can’t comprehend there are other views

You are too kind. I think as, Jon Stewart illustrated, the options are either “stupid” or “evil”, but this is true for ideologues on both the left and the right.

Pope Francis warns against ideologues.
catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-answering-god-with-the-heart-protects-against-ideologies/

 

[estesbob]

You are too kind. I think as, Jon Stewart illustrated, the options are either “stupid” or “evil”, but this is true for ideologues on both the left and the right.

Pope Francis warns against ideologues.
catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-answering-god-with-the-heart-protects-against-ideologies/

i share the same ideologies as People Francis does.

 

[ishii]

You are too kind. I think as, Jon Stewart illustrated, the options are either “stupid” or “evil”, but this is true for ideologues on both the left and the right.

Pope Francis warns against ideologues.
catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-answering-god-with-the-heart-protects-against-ideologies/

I am reminded of Obama’s revealing comment when speaking to the elites in San Francisco on how conservatives “cling to their guns and religion.” And of course the endless comments from liberal posters here on CAF ridiculing conservatives as getting all their info from Fox or Rush Limbaugh. “quit listening to Fox news and right-wing talk radio” is a common refrain. No, it is more the left which has the tendency to call those with whom they disagree stupid or evil. They just can’t comprehend that thoughtful people would actually hold views different from their own liberal views.

Ishii