But my question to you is what can we do other than what we are doing putting the economy on the backburner in order to save lives? Without strict measures millions could die. That is just the bottom line.Major powers like China do not have our best interest in mind, and want us destroyed. As our economy weakens, so does our military. I am not suggesting we (our country, our military) is so depleted today that China or Russia could take advantage. We are far from that, but there are military experts out there that discuss this.
This. 1,000 times this.None of these pet projects can circumvent the reality that they all call for lots of people out and about; and working priests half to death; at a time when a very poorly-understood (and perhaps mutating) virus continues to cause a growing death toll and a growing number of infections daily.
It’s the usual “my right to mass trumps your right to life;” it’s arrogant; and it also fails to recognize how often people have foregone mass in human history (I.e., sailors on long voyages; explorers; prisoners; etc.)
It’s beating a dead horse at this point.
Me! Let me know when and where. To get the mass to the people I am all in. Many priests would be willing to say many more masses to take care of their flock.Who’s going to do all of the set up and sanitation work between Mass, theoreticolly putting them in a higher risk position of contraction.
I want to illustrate a point here, not because I am for or against it, for I will say neither, nor indicate agreement or disagreement. This is simply to illustrate that people’s viewpoints are different and can be valid for different reasons.This crisis made me realize I need to stockpile a much bigger emergency fund to feel comfortable.
??? All I mentioned was putting a lot of money in the bank for emergencies. I’m confused.I want to illustrate a point here, not because I am for or against it, for I will say neither, nor indicate agreement or disagreement. This is simply to illustrate that people’s viewpoints are different and can be valid for different reasons.
I watched a nurse on television last night who apparently got caught speeding on the way home from the hospital, taking care of people with covid19. The police offer knew she was a nurse and stopped her to give her five N95 masks he was given by the force. He said, only condition, is don’t speed the rest of the way home.
She then proceeded to get angry about all of the people who were “stock-piling” and “hoarding” food because she was on the front line taking care of people and those people should be ashamed of themselves, and there is no need for this emotional reaction and you are taking away food from people.
My point in telling you all this is because, 1) I’m fairly sure none of you will jump on that nurse because right now she is doing great work, and 2) because I guarantee people are a buying more than what they need for the next week because they are scared, and they want to protect their family, and so her opinion is her opinion and simply because everyone here has expressed theirs doesn’t necessarily make them right, or wrong, and because I express mine does not make me evil.
Someone could easily say to the people who are now somewhat worried and doing things to maybe ensure your family is safe, by buying extra groceries (e.g.: rice, pastas, canned foods, flour, etc.) that they are all evil people, taking food away from others, and keeping 6 months of money on hand, and call them names… but that wouldn’t be the right thing to do would it?
So when I express my opinion about how I feel, I hope we can stop from calling each other names.
OK…so you’re “the one”. How far are you willing to travel? An hour…maybe two from where you’re at. Now…you’re putting yourself in the position of carrying the virus even that much further AND SPREADING IT… I am so lost on how individuals don’t see how it’s such a bad idea to congregate at this time…Me! Let me know when and where. To get the mass to the people I am all in.
Really, how many priest have you been in contact with? Do you have their schedules synced to your phone? I already told you that Masses were being pulled back in my wife’s parish because the priest couldn’t keep up.Many priests would be willing to say many more masses to take care of their flock.
Is it more important for you to receive the Eucharist than for your neighbor to live?Is bread more important than the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus? You don’t have to answer. I do not wish. To argue. Just think we should think about our priorities. Also, we are not responsible for doing extraordinary things to save lives. Just things to think about.
[/quote]Is it more important for you to receive the Eucharist than for your neighbor to live?
How is it even possible that any Catholic would think this way?
To this I would respond that we are often called to do extraordinary things (in the literal sense) to save lives. The Church does teach that one does not have to use extraordinary medical measures to keep one alive, but that applies only to one who is terminal.Also, we are not responsible for doing extraordinary things to save lives.
It’s essentially the same point—receiving the Eucharist puts one well within six feet of the priest. And increases greatly the risk of spreading this disease.The problem with this point is that it is not accurate. There is no direct cause and effect relationship between the two. The more accurate question would be is it more important to receive the Eucharist without a break for a few months than it is to put one’s neighbor at greater risk of death.
No one is suggesting a complete cessation --it’s temporary. I do understand the objection—I’ve just been astonished at Catholics who think their desire to receive Communion could justify risking the lives of innocent people.If you look at it accurately, you might see how it is possible for a Catholic to object to a complete cessation of public Mass.
If it makes you feel better, I am sure there are some that are astonished that some Catholics do not have the desire to receive the Eucharist that they do. I have no dog in this fight, but I do understand that desire, and why people need protected. I also understand the limits of the six foot rule, and personally accommodate for it.—I’ve just been astonished at Catholics who think their desire to receive Communion could justify risking the lives of innocent people.