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mark_a
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“Full of grace” leaves no room for sin.
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Emma412
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rod of iron:
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If Mary was chosen by God for this particular purpose and said yes then she is a good example for us and definitely one worth paying attention to.
rod of iron:
“that’s all”. Okay. GOD CAME TO EARTH THROUGH MARY. Saying “thats all” is like demeaning the holiness of Christ. Its important. Not just any person was chosen. Mary was chosen and preserved for this reason by God himself. Jesus Christ could have appeared on this earth as a 30 year old man taught his message and died on the cross, but GOD chose to be brought into the world through a woman and not just any woman, but Mary.
rod of iron:
If it were a false prophecy it would not have been recorded in the bible. Unless of course you are implying that not all of the bible is truth? And by the way, peoplecan choose to say yes to God’s truth or people can choose to not. So when you say not everyone calls her blest is I can say in reply that not everyone believes in God, but that doesn’t make Him any less real.
rod of iron:
But are you God? Truly, if you are then I would call your mom very blessed.
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kevinfraser
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This goes to Authority, kpnuts2k. You have a chip on your shoulder invented by Martin Luther called ‘Sola Scriptura’ and no FOREIGNER is gonna tell you what to believe about “chirstain”-ty.
You take Martin Luther, kpnuts2k, as your final authority. Not God.
You CATEGORICALLY DENY INSTEAD that the WHOLE of the Catholic Bible freely given to the world by the Catholic Church, (including the seven books Martin Luther removed)
COMBINED WITH…
…The inerrant Apostolic teaching of Jesus Christ on FAITH and MORALS, protected through His promise by the Holy Spirit through the unbroken – UNBROKEN – Apostolic teaching succession of all the shepherds of His Church for 2,000 years…
IS NOT…
…the WHOLE of Christ’s teaching on faith and morals, (as opposed to Martin Luther’s “bible only” theory/doctrine).
If you are intellectually honest, you can read this very clear article about what the Holy Spirit has protected and fostered about Blessed Mary through the Catholic Church since the Resurrection:
catholic.com/library/immaculate_conception_and_assum.asp
If you are intellectually dishonest, you will give no thought to reading it, and maybe post another demand for scripture verse numbers, AS IF somebody could fit God’s plan of salvation inside the former Fr. Luther’s little man-made “sola scriptura” box.
Won’t fit. As Dolly Parton’s pappa used to express this principle: “Yuh cain’t fit fi’ty poun’a mud’na tin poun’ sack.”
You’ve been had by old Marty so let the scales fall, kpnuts2k. And if you find out that I’m just another ‘poor’ Catholic, you get to stay protestant. This is probably the only part of my life I’ll spend trying to stop you, so how can you possibly lose?
Catholics believe ALL that Jesus taught: that God is way bigger than Holy Scriptures. INFINITE, in fact. Martin Luther has posthumously snookered billions into placing him in a higher position of authority than Jesus, after ML’d rightfully been excommunicated for it. Face it, kp, “Sola Scriptura” teaches that the totality of God is secondary to the Holy Bible. Is that what protestants believe? If not, how do you reconcile this evaluation of authority?
If
GOD > BIBLE > MARTIN
then how can Luther’s expressed (by his actions)
Luther > Bible
Also be true? He threw out seven books. You’re not supposed to change one single word. He was also DEEPLY devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary. We can pray that God’s graces from THAT may have saved his German bacon.
It can’t GET any more backwards, kp. Have you ever actually evaluated Sola Scriptura before? There it is. If I’m wrong, get your minister or whoever besides Martin Luther you trust as the ultimate authority to explain how this evaluation is wrong.
Again, Sola Scriptura, Martin Luther’s trap for godly people seeking to over-simplfy God, is not in the Bible, brother. It isn’t. Look all you want. I’m begging you.
If you now just want to cover your eyes and ears and say “Llalalala I can’t hear you because you’re Catholic and I’ve been taught to mock, scorn, deride and curse Catholics since I was little because they’re all going to hell anyway because that’s the ‘chirstain’ (sic) thing to do” then you JUST won’t.
You’re either going to seek or hide.
Once you realize all that God’s authority TRULY includes, you will have less and less trouble understanding the rightful role of the human-only Mother of God in His merciful plan of salvation for all of us poor sinners. You’ll be THAT astounded by His Truth. Martin Luther can’t hold a candle to the Fullness of Faith in Christ Jesus.
My brother (or sister), may God bless you and instruct His Mother to draw you always closer to Jesus.
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kpnuts2k
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yes i respect mary cos yer she gave birth to my lord but she sinned and she is dead (rotting) like i will be one day
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mrS4ntA
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Now that is disrespect! Not only to Christ’s holy Mother, but more importantly to Christ himself: to assert that He was conceived and nourished in the womb of a sinner!
Consider also the fact that no church/city on this earth claims to have the remains of the Blessed Virgin, supposedly she wasn’t assumed to Heaven!
And haven’t you read KevinFraser’s post just above? Or are you admitting you are “intellectually dishonest”?
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Aris
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ROI,
You still run the same train of thoughts as in your other posts in other threads.
Again. If you believe that there were other groups other than the Catholic Church before 1000 AD, can you please name them and their leaders? Can you trace your group to this pre-1000AD Non-Catholic group?
I doubt it.
If you would tell me what your group is I might be able to give you historical facts of your group’s origins.
And to get back to the point of the thread, we should be respectful of the Blessed Mother Mary because she was chosen and honored by God to be the Mother of God.
You still run the same train of thoughts as in your other posts in other threads.
Again. If you believe that there were other groups other than the Catholic Church before 1000 AD, can you please name them and their leaders? Can you trace your group to this pre-1000AD Non-Catholic group?
I doubt it.
If you would tell me what your group is I might be able to give you historical facts of your group’s origins.
And to get back to the point of the thread, we should be respectful of the Blessed Mother Mary because she was chosen and honored by God to be the Mother of God.
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rod_of_iron
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Well, I have been away from the computer for a couple of days, so I have fallen behind. I feel that the reason I have gone on tangents in this thread is because other posts have mentioned things that made it very easy to go on a tangent. But I will try to stay with the topic of this thread.
I still do not understand exactly how much respect that you Catholics feel should be given to Mary. When I focus on Jesus Christ, I pray to Jesus Christ. I do not understand how you can focus on one person while praying to another. When you say, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you”, it would seem that at least at that moment, you are thinking of Mary, unless the prayer has become so second nature that you do not even think about what you are saying. I know the Lord’s prayer by heart, and I have found that at times when I pray it, my mind can wander so that my mouth is still going through the motions but I am not thinking about what I am saying. I am not saying that this happens every time I pray that prayer, but it does happen on occasion. To me, focusing on Christ while praying to Mary makes as much sense as if you were focusing on Mary while saying the Lord’s prayer. Why would you not pray to the one you are focusing on?
It has been said in previous posts that how you treat Mary does affect your salvation. When I question this, I am accused of not having love in my church or perhaps, none within me. I do not go out purposely and say bad things about Mary. She is physically dead. I have never met her. For me to say bad things about Mary would make no sense. It would make as much sense as for me to say bad things about anyone else who has lived and already died.
But when Catholics feel that I must think about her enough to pray to her, or that I must honor her or venerate her just because she was the human through whom God chose to be born in the flesh, I feel that I must question this. If I do not focus on Mary and pray to her ever in my life, will I not be saved? Is my salvation dependent upon how I try to communicate with Mary or if I try to enlist her to pray for me? Do I have to include Mary in my worship of God in order to be saved and maintain my salvation? Where did Jesus, when asked what must a person do to be saved, say that they must pray to Mary to enlist her help or to hold Mary to any special honor or veneration? Jesus never pointed to His birth when confronted by His critics or His followers. He never said, “Hey, did you see the way that I was born?” or “Did you see the mother who bore me and how pure she is?” I cannot find this anywhere in the Bible. So, if Jesus did not point to His mother when speaking of salvation and atonement, why should I look upon her when my salvation and atonement in concerned?
I still do not understand exactly how much respect that you Catholics feel should be given to Mary. When I focus on Jesus Christ, I pray to Jesus Christ. I do not understand how you can focus on one person while praying to another. When you say, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you”, it would seem that at least at that moment, you are thinking of Mary, unless the prayer has become so second nature that you do not even think about what you are saying. I know the Lord’s prayer by heart, and I have found that at times when I pray it, my mind can wander so that my mouth is still going through the motions but I am not thinking about what I am saying. I am not saying that this happens every time I pray that prayer, but it does happen on occasion. To me, focusing on Christ while praying to Mary makes as much sense as if you were focusing on Mary while saying the Lord’s prayer. Why would you not pray to the one you are focusing on?
It has been said in previous posts that how you treat Mary does affect your salvation. When I question this, I am accused of not having love in my church or perhaps, none within me. I do not go out purposely and say bad things about Mary. She is physically dead. I have never met her. For me to say bad things about Mary would make no sense. It would make as much sense as for me to say bad things about anyone else who has lived and already died.
But when Catholics feel that I must think about her enough to pray to her, or that I must honor her or venerate her just because she was the human through whom God chose to be born in the flesh, I feel that I must question this. If I do not focus on Mary and pray to her ever in my life, will I not be saved? Is my salvation dependent upon how I try to communicate with Mary or if I try to enlist her to pray for me? Do I have to include Mary in my worship of God in order to be saved and maintain my salvation? Where did Jesus, when asked what must a person do to be saved, say that they must pray to Mary to enlist her help or to hold Mary to any special honor or veneration? Jesus never pointed to His birth when confronted by His critics or His followers. He never said, “Hey, did you see the way that I was born?” or “Did you see the mother who bore me and how pure she is?” I cannot find this anywhere in the Bible. So, if Jesus did not point to His mother when speaking of salvation and atonement, why should I look upon her when my salvation and atonement in concerned?
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mrS4ntA
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OK, first of all, it IS said that “not everything that jesus said or did is recorder.”
Second of all, the Gospels, the epistles and the rest of the Sacred Scriptures were written in the intention of witnessing Christ. They were surely not written as a biography of his Mother!
This being said, you cannot possinbly ignore the amount of prophesies in the OT (in types and prefigurements) that are paramount to the uniqueness of Christ’s earthly mother – most prominent of which, in my opinion, it the Ark of the Covenant itself!
And for my third point, I’ll just quote some of the writing of St. Louis Marie de Montfort:
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(to be continued in my next post)
Second of all, the Gospels, the epistles and the rest of the Sacred Scriptures were written in the intention of witnessing Christ. They were surely not written as a biography of his Mother!
This being said, you cannot possinbly ignore the amount of prophesies in the OT (in types and prefigurements) that are paramount to the uniqueness of Christ’s earthly mother – most prominent of which, in my opinion, it the Ark of the Covenant itself!
And for my third point, I’ll just quote some of the writing of St. Louis Marie de Montfort:
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(to be continued in my next post)
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jimmy
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Rod of Iron
Thank you for trying to controlling your wild statements.
We Catholics do not worship Mary, we honor her. When we pray to Mary we are worshiping Jesus because the focus of our prayer is the mysteries of Christ. Mary also always points to Christ, for example at the wedding feast at Cana when she asked Jesus to change the watter to wine, she said to the servants’ “Do what ever he tells you.” This is an example of what Marys position is.
Do you believe that it is fine to ask a friend to pray for you? Well, what we are doing when we pray to Mary or any of the saints is asking the to pray to God for us.
We honor Mary as Gods **only **perfect **creation **and the mother of our lord and our mother. This is why some of the Marian dogmas make perfect sense. The assumption makes sense because she was perfect and without sin. The consequence of sin is the corruption of the body so she must have been assumed into heaven.
The way you honor Mary does have an affect on your salvation because it is a sign of your love of God and his creations. It is an honor of his greatest creation(Jesus was not created he was begotten). There are many protestants who profane Mary and this is just the worst sign of your love for God.
If you never pray to Mary does not mean you will not go to heaven or be saved. It is advantagious for us though to pray to her because she can obtain grace from God for us. You can only be saved through Gods grace. Now I am not saying that that is the only way to recieve grace. The Catholic church teaches that salvation is through Christ alone.
Jesus did not say pray to Mary and you will be saved. But if you do not take advantage of what is advantagious to you and your soul then how much do you really care about your salvation? Agian you should look upon her for your salvation because she can obtain grace for you, and this would be very good.
God bless, I hope you come to the truth.
Thank you for trying to controlling your wild statements.
We Catholics do not worship Mary, we honor her. When we pray to Mary we are worshiping Jesus because the focus of our prayer is the mysteries of Christ. Mary also always points to Christ, for example at the wedding feast at Cana when she asked Jesus to change the watter to wine, she said to the servants’ “Do what ever he tells you.” This is an example of what Marys position is.
Do you believe that it is fine to ask a friend to pray for you? Well, what we are doing when we pray to Mary or any of the saints is asking the to pray to God for us.
We honor Mary as Gods **only **perfect **creation **and the mother of our lord and our mother. This is why some of the Marian dogmas make perfect sense. The assumption makes sense because she was perfect and without sin. The consequence of sin is the corruption of the body so she must have been assumed into heaven.
The way you honor Mary does have an affect on your salvation because it is a sign of your love of God and his creations. It is an honor of his greatest creation(Jesus was not created he was begotten). There are many protestants who profane Mary and this is just the worst sign of your love for God.
If you never pray to Mary does not mean you will not go to heaven or be saved. It is advantagious for us though to pray to her because she can obtain grace from God for us. You can only be saved through Gods grace. Now I am not saying that that is the only way to recieve grace. The Catholic church teaches that salvation is through Christ alone.
Jesus did not say pray to Mary and you will be saved. But if you do not take advantage of what is advantagious to you and your soul then how much do you really care about your salvation? Agian you should look upon her for your salvation because she can obtain grace for you, and this would be very good.
God bless, I hope you come to the truth.
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mrS4ntA
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*21. Let us not imagine, then, as some misguided teachers do, that Mary being simply a creature would be a hindrance to union with the Creator. Far from it, for it is no longer Mary who lives but Jesus Christ himself, God alone, who lives in her. Her transformation into God far surpasses that experienced by St Paul and other saints, more than heaven surpasses the earth. Mary was created only for God, and it is unthinkable that she should reserve even one soul for herself. On the contrary she leads every soul to God and to union with him. Mary is the wonderful echo of God. The more a person joins himself to her, the more effectively she unites him to God. When we say “Mary”, she re-echoes “God”. When, like St Elizabeth, we call her blessed, she gives the honour to God. If those misguided ones who were so sadly led astray by the devil, even in their prayer-life, had known how to discover Mary, and Jesus through her, and God through Jesus, they would not have had such terrible falls. The saints tell us that when we have once found Mary, and through Mary Jesus, and through Jesus God the Father, then we have discovered every good. When we say “every good”, we except nothing. “Every good” includes every grace, continuous friendship with God, every protection against the enemies of God, possession of truth to counter every falsehood, endless benefits and unfailing headway against the hazards we meet on the way to salvation, and finally every consolation and joy amid the bitter afflictions of life.
- The difficulty, then, is how to arrive at the true knowledge of the most holy Virgin and so find grace in abundance through her. God, as the absolute Master, can give directly what he ordinarily dispenses only through Mary, and it would be rash to deny that he sometimes does so. However, St Thomas assures us that, following the order established by his divine Wisdom, God ordinarily imparts his graces to men through Mary. Therefore, if we wish to go to him, seeking union with him, we must use the same means which he used in coming down from heaven to assume our human nature and to impart his graces to us. That means was a complete dependence on Mary his Mother, which is true devotion to her.*
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jimmy
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It says no where in the bible that she sinned. You are going against the bible with that statement. In fact she was “Full of Grace”. To be full of grace means that she was sinless.
She is very much alive in heaven with Christ.
Have you read any of the articles that I posted about Mary on the other thread yet? If not here they are again.
The Imaculate Conception
catholicapologetics.net/apolo_92.htm
catholicapologetics.net/apolo_93.htm
The Perpetual Virginity of Mary
catholicapologetics.net/apolo_94.htm
catholicapologetics.net/LUKE_1_34.htm
Honoring Mary
catholicapologetics.net/…y_anger_god.htm
catholicapologetics.net/apolo_162.htm
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mrS4ntA
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*2. Because Mary remained hidden during her life she is called by the Holy Spirit and the Church “Alma Mater”, Mother hidden and unknown. So great was her humility that she desired nothing more upon earth than to remain unknown to herself and to others, and to be known only to God.
- In answer to her prayers to remain hidden, poor and lowly, God was pleased to conceal her from nearly every other human creature in her conception, her birth, her life, her mysteries, her resurrection and assumption. Her own parents did not really know her; and the angels would often ask one another, “Who can she possibly be?”, for God had hidden her from them, or if he did reveal anything to them, it was nothing compared with what he withheld.
- God the Father willed that she should perform no miracle during her life, at least no public one, although he had given her the power to do so. God the Son willed that she should speak very little although he had imparted his wisdom to her.
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Aris
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rod of iron:
rod of iron:
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At least that’s that’s a start. We can then show you if you let us.
rod of iron:
By praying with and to Blessed Mary, your focus is turned to Christ and his Life. Try meditating on each of the Holy Mysteries of the Rosary and what they really mean.
rod of iron:
Good! We at least agree not to disrespect her.
rod of iron:
Well, He did. At the foot of the Cross, He gave Mary to John as John’s and all of humanity’s mother. She can be a guide a helping hand if you let her.
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DenRat
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rod of iron:
The Lutheran church is only about 500 years old. It’s followers don’t even subscribe to many of Luther’s teachings anymore (which were more like the Catholic church than what Lutheran’s are taught today). The rest of the 30,000 plus denominations have continued to splinter off but the Catholic Church remains the pillar and foundation of truth.
God Bless,
Denise
It can be proven because the Catholic Church was the ONLY church for the first 1500 years. It is the church that Jesus established. The church he founded on Peter, the first pope. The church he said the gates of hell would not prevail against. The church that has taught the same thing and has not contradicted itself or changed it’s teachings in the past 2000 years (that’s not to say it hasn’t more clearly defined teachings throughout this time).
The Lutheran church is only about 500 years old. It’s followers don’t even subscribe to many of Luther’s teachings anymore (which were more like the Catholic church than what Lutheran’s are taught today). The rest of the 30,000 plus denominations have continued to splinter off but the Catholic Church remains the pillar and foundation of truth.
God Bless,
Denise
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rod_of_iron
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You can show me if you want to, but I am certain that I will never pray to Mary when I can directly pray to God in Jesus’ name.
I do not see how. When I pray to God, I focus on God. If I prayed to Mary, I cannot see how I wouldn’t then focus on Mary. The only time I really think about Mary is during Christmas, because that is the only time where she seems to have any significance in the life of Christ.
This does not mean that I will pray to her or venerate her in any way.
Where did Jesus give Mary to all of humanity? I can see where Mary was given to John to take care of, but I believe this was done because John was Jesus’ younger brother, not a cousin. Since John might have been the next in line in the family, since Jesus would not be on Earth much longer, John was to take care of his Earthly mother. I would guess that Joseph had died by that time, so Mary would not have a husband any longer to take care of her.
I do not believe that Mary can assist me or anyone else. Why do I need Mary when I have Jesus to give me salvation? Mary just seems like a distraction from where my honor, prayers, and devotion should be going – Jesus Christ.
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rod_of_iron
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mrS4ntA said:
The way this reads, it would seem that Mary has changed into God. This idea is foreign to the Bible.
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rod_of_iron
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This still seems to be too much focus upon Mary.
Why don’t you pray to God while focusing on the mysteries of Christ? Why not go straight to the top? Don’t you believe that you can directly approach God without Mary?
Mary’s position is to tell Jesus what He should do??? Can Jesus not see the need and decide how to meet that need without being counseled by Mary? It would seem that you take one event recorded in the Bible and create a doctrine around it. Where was Mary when Jesus healed the lepers? Where was she when He put the demons into the swine? Where was she when He healed the blind man or raised the daughter of Jairus from the dead? If Jesus needed Mary to tell Him to turn water in wine, why wouldn’t He need her to make these other decisions and many more?
But why would I need dead people to pray for me?
Only perfect creation? Where is that found in the Bible? So, you are saying that a perfect God only managed to create a perfect creation once? Once He figured out how to create a perfect creation, wouldn’t He then create perfect creations after that? Or was it just a fluke? What about Adam and Eve? Didn’t God create them perfect? Didn’t He create the heaven and earth perfect? Didn’t he create the animals and plant life perfect? I can see in the first chapter of Genesis where God saw that everything He had created was good. Where is it written that Mary was the only good thing when God created her? Where is it written in scripture that God created Mary perfect and without sin? This also seems like an instance where the Catholic church takes a verse and forms a doctrine from it.
Not to me it doesn’t.
This alleged event seems ironic. Since it cannot be proven either way at this time whether Mary was taken into heaven, it must be assumed that she was taken, yet the event is called the Assumption of Mary. How ironic!
If it is a sign of my love for God’s creations, shouldn’t I give every person the same honor as I would for Mary? Wouldn’t I also give every animal and every plant the same honor as Mary? Mary is just one of God’s creations. Why not honor all of His creations equally?
God’s greatest creation? This is not Biblical.
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rod_of_iron
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She has the inside track, huh? Yet the Bible tells us that God is not a respecter of persons. If God gives Mary a special position where He will give her grace to distribute, yet He will not give anyone else this honor, God must be a respecter of persons. But my God does not esteem anyone above anyone else.
How can we be saved through God’s grace alone if we must also be saved through God’s grace as assisted by Mary? Alone does not mean that God needs anyone to assist Him. But you seem to need a creature of God to assist God, as if He cannot really do it alone. I trust in Christ alone.
Christ promises me and you salvation through Him without any help from anyone else. It is not advantageous for me to treat Jesus as if He is not capable of bringing about the salvation of man without Mary assisting Him. You can rely on Mary as much as you want to. But for me, I will rely solely upon Christ and Him alone to save me without some special inside track to get grace more easily. Nowhere in the Bible does it tell us that we can get grace easier if we honor and venerate Mary.
Likewise, I hope that you will come to the truth soon. I hope that you will someday be able to put all your trust in Christ alone, rather than having to depend upon Mary to persuade Jesus to offer you grace.
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MariaG
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Rod of Iron,
you say you do not see why Mary is deserving of honor or veneration. Do you believe you should be like Christ in all you do?
If so, then you need to start honoring Mary, because, as a Jewish Man, Jesus certainly did.
I’m sorry how you can’t see how praying the Rosary helps focus my thoughts on Christ, but just because you can’t see how it happens, doesn’t mean my heart is not worshiping and contemplating Christ. I am thankful God is the judge of my heartfelt prayers.
Scripture comparing Mary to the Ark is there. You choose to reject it. Sacred Tradition is taught in the Scriptures. You have also have rejected this. These together give Catholic Christians the teachings on Mary. The Bible says all generations will call me Blessed. Your church apparently rejects this as well, ( maybe I am wrong and your pastor talks about the Blessed Virgen?)
The Bible shows us that many rejected Jesus’ words and teachings. (See John 6 and the Real Presence to see how many walked away from the truth). Your rejection does not make any of it less true.
God Bless
you say you do not see why Mary is deserving of honor or veneration. Do you believe you should be like Christ in all you do?
If so, then you need to start honoring Mary, because, as a Jewish Man, Jesus certainly did.
I’m sorry how you can’t see how praying the Rosary helps focus my thoughts on Christ, but just because you can’t see how it happens, doesn’t mean my heart is not worshiping and contemplating Christ. I am thankful God is the judge of my heartfelt prayers.
Scripture comparing Mary to the Ark is there. You choose to reject it. Sacred Tradition is taught in the Scriptures. You have also have rejected this. These together give Catholic Christians the teachings on Mary. The Bible says all generations will call me Blessed. Your church apparently rejects this as well, ( maybe I am wrong and your pastor talks about the Blessed Virgen?)
The Bible shows us that many rejected Jesus’ words and teachings. (See John 6 and the Real Presence to see how many walked away from the truth). Your rejection does not make any of it less true.
God Bless
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Hans_A
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rod of iron:
Would you not ask your own mother to pray for you to the Lord our God? Is she able to pray to the Lord 24hrs a day, 7 days a week? Are you able to? Then wouldn’t it benefit you even more to ask Jesus’ own mother to pray for you? She, like all those who have gone to heaven, is not bound by space and time. Jesus is our King; therefore, Mary is the King’s mother. In the OT, the king does not deny his mother’s requests. Henceforth, Jesus will not deny Mary her requests.
“…Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen”
In Christ,
Hans
John was not Jesus’ brother, Mary was ever virgin. Concerning John 19:26-27:
The only other time where Jesus used “Woman” in the bible when talking to his mother was at the wedding at Cana. Jesus gives his mother to us while she weeps at the foot of the cross along with St. John.
Would you not ask your own mother to pray for you to the Lord our God? Is she able to pray to the Lord 24hrs a day, 7 days a week? Are you able to? Then wouldn’t it benefit you even more to ask Jesus’ own mother to pray for you? She, like all those who have gone to heaven, is not bound by space and time. Jesus is our King; therefore, Mary is the King’s mother. In the OT, the king does not deny his mother’s requests. Henceforth, Jesus will not deny Mary her requests.
“…Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen”
In Christ,
Hans
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