Do Catholics have to pray to Mary?

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I have already begun my search for another denomination as this is not the church for me.
Yet it is the Church formed by Christ on Earth. Why abandon Christ’s Church for a denomination created by man because he was unhappy with what was taught by the Church formed by Christ?

Is truth determined by what we personally believe to be true, or is truth independent of whether or not a man believes it to be so? Do we create or own truths?

Nobody is telling you that you have to pray the Rosary, you don’t even have to pray the Hail Mary. You just have to accept the Marian doctrines of the Church (and I don’t think you’ve said anything on here which indicates thst you don’t). And most of us can have difficulties with some aspects of teaching (we are mere humans, we do not know the truth by ourselves).

Be very careful, it’s not about choosing a denomination thst suits us better, it’s about staying with what is true. Who determines truth? Christ, when he formed his Church, or individual men who created their own denominations because they disagreed with Christ’s Church?
 
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What do you mean by extracurricular devotions?
Personal devotions… Those religious practices that anyone can choose to do… or not… things like the rosary, chaplet of divine mercy, miraculous medals, brown scapular, any apparitions, etc. Things that involve praying with saints outside of the liturgy.
So, apart from The Liturgy of the Hours and the Eucharistic celebrations and each instance of the Seven Sacraments. Even though individuals may elect not to address the Blessed Virgin Mary in individual prayers the individual is still part of the Communion of Saints which prays together:
Catechism 2682 Because of Mary’s singular cooperation with the action of the Holy Spirit, the Church loves to pray in communion with the Virgin Mary, to magnify with her the great things the Lord has done for her, and to entrust supplications and praises to her.
 
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The Church loves to pray with Mary.

During the Mass and the LOTH, we ask Mary and the other saints to pray for us and invoke their memory. The Church does warn against blending devotions in to the liturgy and the risk of distorting the true nature of Christian worship

Pope Paul VI - MARIA’S CULTUS: FOR THE RIGHT ORDERING AND DEVELOPMENT OF DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
  1. We have already spoken of the veneration which the Church gives to the Mother of God in the celebration of the sacred liturgy. However, speaking of the other forms of devotion and of the criteria on which they should be based we wish to recall the norm laid down in the Constitution Sacrosanctum concilium. This document, while wholeheartedly approving of the practices of piety of the Christian people, goes on to say:"…it is necessary however that such devotions with consideration for the liturgical seasons should be so arranged as to be in harmony with the sacred liturgy. They should somehow derive their inspiration from it, and because of its pre-eminence they should orient the Christian people towards it."(93) Although this is a wise and clear rule, its application is not an easy matter, especially in regard to Marian devotions, which are so varied in their formal expressions. What is needed on the part of the leaders of the local communities is effort, pastoral sensitivity and perseverance, while the faithful on their part must show a willingness to accept guidelines and ideas drawn from the true nature of Christian worship; this sometimes makes it necessary to change long-standing customs wherein the real nature of this Christian worship has become somewhat obscured
In this context we wish to mention two attitudes which in pastoral practice could nullify the norm of the Second Vatican Council. In the first place there are certain persons concerned with the care of souls who scorn a priori, devotions of piety which, in their correct forms have been recommended by the magisterium, who leave them aside and in this way create a vacuum which they do not fill. They forget that the Council has said that devotions of piety should harmonize with the liturgy, not be suppressed. Secondly there are those who, without wholesome liturgical and pastoral criteria, mix practices of piety and liturgical acts in hybrid celebrations. It sometimes happens that novenas or similar practices of piety are inserted into the very celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice. This creates the danger that the Lord’s Memorial Rite, instead of being the culmination of the meeting of the Christian community, becomes the occasion, as it were, for devotional practices. For those who act in this way we wish to recall the rule laid down by the Council prescribing that exercises of piety should be harmonized with the liturgy not merged into it. Wise pastoral action should, on the one hand, point out and emphasize the proper nature of the liturgical acts, while on the other hand it should enhance the value of practices of piety in order to adapt them to the needs of individual communities in the Church and to make them valuable aids to the liturgy
 
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Yet in another and equally true—if less close—sense, he shares her with us. She is our mother too, for we are his brothers and sisters, redeemed from sin by that precious blood which flowed from off the cross beneath which she stood on Calvary. Mary loves us with a mother’s love, for we belong to her family—she will disown none whom her son is not ashamed to call his brethren, and we owe and give her the love that is hers by right, both as the mother of our Lord and as the mother of all who belong to him. . . .

“And as the Mother of God is our mother too, so the saints and friends of God are our friends also. Believing then in the communion of saints, believing that death does not hamper the activities of the soul, the Church encourages her children to invoke the saints, reigning together with Christ—above all to invoke our Blessed Lady. Are they not his friends and ours? Is she not the Mother of God and the Mother of men?”

The Communion of Saints
 
devotions of piety
Excellent source and also we have this from The Congregation for Divine Worship and The Discipline of The Sacraments, 2001:
“The Church exhorts all the faithful - sacred minister, religious and laity - to develop a personal and community devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary through the use of approved and recommended pious exercises”:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...on_ccdds_doc_20020513_vers-direttorio_en.html
 
Perfect…

Exhort being a verb meaning to strongly encourage or urge (someone) to do something.

I think that settles the argument, no? That is what I have trying to communicate
 
Perfect…

Exhort being a verb meaning to strongly encourage or urge (someone) to do something.

I think that settles the argument, no? That is what I have trying to communicate
There was never any disagreement on my part. However the answer to the original post is that we are required to pray to the Blessed Virgin Mary. There are many optional practices such as gaining indulgences.
 
Well… we’ll disagree a little then… just a tiny bit

We clearly have to ask Mary, the other saints, the angels and each other to pray for us and we have to invoke their memory at Mass, but I don’t think I’d agree that we have to pray to them.
 
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I don’t think you want to leave the church because of Mary and the saints. It is something else and I am sure you know the reason. Whatever you do, spend time in daily prayer. Prayer is our lifeline to God. We absolutely need prayer, directed to God.
 
Then I guess whenever you’re at a liturgy that has prayers that are addressed directly to Mary you endorse the view of some that one can just ignore them.
 
They clearly state otherwise in the post you replied to.

I think they see things the way I do, outside of the liturgy or a penance it is not required.
 
Truth be told, if a person is opposed to prayer to Mary and the Saints, that is a problem. Again, the liturgy has prayers that are addressed directly to Mary, for example. If one has a problem with this…well, that’s exactly what many Protestants have a problem with too.
 
You don’t have to buy it/believe me. That is the truth and you are more than welcome to leave it as you seem to want to do.
 
Well… we’ll disagree a little then… just a tiny bit

We clearly have to ask Mary, the other saints, the angels and each other to pray for us and we have to invoke their memory at Mass, but I don’t think I’d agree that we have to pray to them.
In 2013, Pope Francis wrote a “Prayer to Mary, Mother of the Church and Mother of our faith”. So prayer to is used for petition for help and we do that in the Mass in certain prayers as posted before.

https://w2.vatican.va/content/franc...sco_preghiere_20130629_maria-lumen-fidei.html
 
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