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Fauken
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I know, and never claimed they were.
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Jig_Saw
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Well, it’s a long thread, but I would say that the Pope’s comment on building walls tells me what I need to know.His immigration stances, I cited the Summa earlier.
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Fauken
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We know that. But you proceeded to say more than just that we stayed on the sidelines.
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Jig_Saw
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Wow. Well, you should head over to Lifesitenews and their “Catholic” section where they reject what the Pope says, but I’m sorry, I don’t take every word from a priest’s mouth as straight from God above as I have found them to be quite human.Now you are rejecting a priest that interesting. I see your not Catholic
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dixieagle
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No, never have, likely never will, unless he undergoes an astonishing transformation. He is arrogant, narcissistic, ignorant of world affairs, petulant, childish, impulsive, vulgar, intellectually lazy and spends way too much time golfing.
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guanophore
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This is yet another baseless disparagement against your siblings, MB. A priest has an opinion just like every other Catholic, and some priest’s opinions are not Catholic enough!So now you wouldn’t listen to a priest?
Lol are you Catholic?
This is a damaging assumption you are making, MB, and bordering on calumny. Not agreeing with a priests’ personal political opinions does not equate to “rejecting” that priest. Nor does it indicate that the person is not “Catholic”.Now you are rejecting a priest that interesting. I see your not Catholic
Insulting members of CAF who have come here for dialogue does not promote the ministry of CAF.
I agree that we did not vote for candidates based upon their saintly behavior, or lack of it. You have failed to produce any support for your assertion that he is a “prayer warrior and loves the bible”. So far as I can tell, this is just wishful thinking on your part. Nice wishful thinking…but without any basis in reality.He doesn’t have to be Catholic.
Plus he has a pro-life conscience, that’s enough for us.
The man is a prayer warrior, loves the bible, talks with the Pope.
Pluscwe didn’t vote for Trump to be pope we voted for him to be president
It is not what you are saying, it is how you are saying it.I’m trying to tell them that when i said voting 3rd party was standing on the sidelines was my OPINION.
So me im a moron lol, just because i give an opinion didn’t make me a shot caller on what sin is.
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MamasBoy33
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Well Cmf men actually taking about lifesite and saying they are changing also. UmmmmLifesitenews and their “Catholic”
Still doesn’t kill babies like your votenever have, likely never will, unless he undergoes an astonishing transformation. He is arrogant, narcissistic, ignorant of world affairs, petulant, childish, impulsive, vulgar, intellectually lazy and spends way too much time golfing
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MamasBoy33
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There a difference on his comment between building walls and letting terrorist in? HELLOPope’s comment on building walls tells me what I need to know
Have you seen the Vatican, yes it has walls. Have you seen the protection? Huh its not to block church goers its to protect from terrorist.
Why does the Vatican have an emergency medical response on hand? Huh for a flu and headache , no buddy its for emergency for terrorist
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MamasBoy33
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Vatican has walls and emergency medical room inside the Vatican.
Yo jiggy your smart just need to do a bit more homework.
You have the right concept though very good.
Yo jiggy your smart just need to do a bit more homework.
You have the right concept though very good.
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JanSobieskiIII
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The United States is a sovereign nation, we are not morally required to take in any and everyone at the expense of ourselves
Heres the summa text again. Legal immigration is fine and dandy, illegal immigrants have no right to be here and we have the right as a country to determine how people enter.
Man’s relations with foreigners are twofold: peaceful, and hostile: and in directing both kinds of relation, the Law contained suitable precepts: … First, when foreigners passed through [the Jew’s] land as travelers. Second, when they came to dwell in their land as newcomers. And in both these respects the Law made kind provision in its precepts: for it is written (Exodus 22:21): “Thou shalt not molest a stranger”; and again (Exodus 22:9): “Thou shalt not molest a sojourner.” Third, when any foreigners wished to be admitted entirely to their fellowship and mode of worship.
With regard to these, a certain order was observed. For they were not at once admitted to citizenship: just as it was law with some nations that no one was deemed a citizen except after two or three generations, as the Philosopher says (Polit. iii, 1). The reason for this was that if foreigners were allowed to meddle with the affairs of a nation as soon as they settled down in its midst, many dangers might occur, since the foreigners not yet having the common good firmly at heart might attempt something hurtful to the people. Hence it was that the Law prescribed in respect of certain nations that had close relations with the Jews (viz., the Egyptians among whom they were born and educated, and the Idumeans, the children of Esau, Jacob’s brother), that they should be admitted to the fellowship of the people after the third generation; whereas others (with whom their relations had been hostile, such as the Ammonites and Moabites) were never to be admitted to citizenship; while the Amalekites, who were yet more hostile to them, and had no fellowship of kindred with them, were to be held as foes in perpetuity: for it is written (Exodus 17:16): “The war of the Lord shall be against Amalec from generation to generation” (Summa Theologica I-II, Q. 105, Art. 3).
Heres the summa text again. Legal immigration is fine and dandy, illegal immigrants have no right to be here and we have the right as a country to determine how people enter.
Man’s relations with foreigners are twofold: peaceful, and hostile: and in directing both kinds of relation, the Law contained suitable precepts: … First, when foreigners passed through [the Jew’s] land as travelers. Second, when they came to dwell in their land as newcomers. And in both these respects the Law made kind provision in its precepts: for it is written (Exodus 22:21): “Thou shalt not molest a stranger”; and again (Exodus 22:9): “Thou shalt not molest a sojourner.” Third, when any foreigners wished to be admitted entirely to their fellowship and mode of worship.
With regard to these, a certain order was observed. For they were not at once admitted to citizenship: just as it was law with some nations that no one was deemed a citizen except after two or three generations, as the Philosopher says (Polit. iii, 1). The reason for this was that if foreigners were allowed to meddle with the affairs of a nation as soon as they settled down in its midst, many dangers might occur, since the foreigners not yet having the common good firmly at heart might attempt something hurtful to the people. Hence it was that the Law prescribed in respect of certain nations that had close relations with the Jews (viz., the Egyptians among whom they were born and educated, and the Idumeans, the children of Esau, Jacob’s brother), that they should be admitted to the fellowship of the people after the third generation; whereas others (with whom their relations had been hostile, such as the Ammonites and Moabites) were never to be admitted to citizenship; while the Amalekites, who were yet more hostile to them, and had no fellowship of kindred with them, were to be held as foes in perpetuity: for it is written (Exodus 17:16): “The war of the Lord shall be against Amalec from generation to generation” (Summa Theologica I-II, Q. 105, Art. 3).
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dixieagle
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How do you know who I voted for? I wrote in the candidate of the pro-life American Solidarity Party. It’s time we get away from the tired two-party system and look at fresh ideas.
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Fauken
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What a coincidence, that’s who I voted for!
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Luke-Suncook
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I support Trump because he’s not a political puppet and stands up to the Washington insiders.
Obama and Bush were presidents that amounted to nothing. I haven’t like a president since Reagan…that is until Trump came along.
I thank God we finally have a strong president who isn’t tied into the mob like the others
There’s no evil in politics today greater than the Clinton’s.
Obama and Bush were presidents that amounted to nothing. I haven’t like a president since Reagan…that is until Trump came along.
I thank God we finally have a strong president who isn’t tied into the mob like the others
There’s no evil in politics today greater than the Clinton’s.
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Jig_Saw
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What exactly does cmf mean?Well Cmf men actually taking about lifesite and saying they are changing also. Ummmm
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Jig_Saw
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I see. So, we are going to use the right wing argument that the Vatican has walls from about 600 years ago to reject what the Pope said.There a difference on his comment between building walls and letting terrorist in? HELLO
Have you seen the Vatican, yes it has walls. Have you seen the protection? Huh its not to block church goers its to protect from terrorist.
Why does the Vatican have an emergency medical response on hand? Huh for a flu and headache , no buddy its for emergency for terrorist
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SuperLuigi
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Are you talking about Barack Obama?
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Jig_Saw
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Well, we both know that foreigners that want to meddle in the nation can just post lies on Facebook and have them treated as gospel truths.
Again, Pope’s words. Pretty simple.
Again, Pope’s words. Pretty simple.
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Luke-Suncook
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Sorry, wrong thread.
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JanSobieskiIII
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If it’s not doctrine we’re allowed to disagree with the pope.
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Luke-Suncook
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This got posted on the wrong topic.
The Pope isn’t my God…just so you know.
The Pope isn’t my God…just so you know.
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