Do Catholics still support Trump

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MamasBoy33 said:
I was going to vote 3rd party, but as i thought about it , i felt i would leave the babies hanging to die.

So i had to get in the mix and vote Trump.

The 3rd party is basically opting out and letting babies die
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I think you’re right about this.
 
twf said:
He publicly stated that he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness… during an interview during the campaign. This is well known - you don’t have to take my word for it… a simple Google search will bring up the footage.
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I know full well what footage you are referring too. My point is you don’t know his relationship with God, nor is it your part to judge his heart, because you can’t know it.

You can pray for him that he does convert and repent of all his sins. God hears our prayers, even for the most hardened sinners.
 
Hi tweedlealice -

I was asking if Trump specifically said that neo-Nazis are good people, as in…was this a DIRECT QUOTE? Or just what someone else said he said?

Misinterpretations count for naught. And when it comes to Donald Trump, the MSM offers us nothing but. I am not interested in being manipulated by a left wing agenda, that has the approval of the MSM and God help us, Hollywood.

And thanks be to Jesus Christ, much of America agrees!
 
Ridgerunner said:
I was going to vote 3rd party, but as i thought about it , i felt i would leave the babies hanging to die.

So i had to get in the mix and vote Trump.

The 3rd party is basically opting out and letting babies die

I think you’re right about this.
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I think so too, if you voted 3rd party you are risking Clinton, and Clinton was an avid pro-abortionist.

Here’s my analogy I made up:

It’s like if you go with your family to a pizza place, and they’re taking votes on what to eat. You know it will come down to pepperoni or Hawaiian, because you know your family. There are always some family members who switch between the two options though. You say I don’t like either and vote for sausage, knowing you won’t get enough votes to win. You are nearly allergic to pepperoni yet you vote sausage anyhow. 4 vote pepperoni and of the 5 who vote Hawaiian, one almost votes pepperoni. You didn’t get sausage as you expected, you thankfully didn’t get pepperoni, but you complain because you don’t like Hawaiian.

You are the third party voter, and you ran the risk that pepperoni almost won.
 
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I agree. Trump is where my confidence lies. The survival of our Federalist Democracy depends on a president who understands economics as well as the importance of individual responsibility. Many Dems do NOT want to see America remain true to it’s most fundamental values.

I teach college students, most of whom sincerely think that the word values is interchangeable with the word feelings.
 
I agree with much of what you’ve said…

Including suing for slander. It is sheer nonsense, and a waste of our time. Why do people who make false statements about the president get their toxic views repeated as if they are factual and newsworthy? Their opinions are not news - and calling it “fake news” is 100% accurate.
 
Do you have any evidence that Trump understands economics? His views on free trade and monetary policy fly in the face of modern economics.
 
I agree. Trump is where my confidence lies. The survival of our Federalist Democracy depends on a president who understands economics as well as the importance of individual responsibility. Many Dems do NOT want to see America remain true to it’s most fundamental values.

I teach college students, most of whom sincerely think that the word values is interchangeable with the word feelings.
 
niceatheist said:
Do you have any evidence that Trump understands economics? His views on free trade and monetary policy fly in the face of modern economics.
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Modern economics is not a single thing. There are lots of schools of modern economics. Some economists would agree with Trump in whole or in part, and some wouldn’t.

one of the problems with any economic policy is that it is almost never completed in full. So, for example, if the U.S. did not run terrible budgetary deficits, trade imbalances and foreign debt would self-correct.

But there is not the slightest possibility Trump will get any budget reductions if he wants them, so the only place to turn in order to ameliorate trade deficits is to limit or at least better regulate foreign trade.
 
In nutshell, Federalism means that each individual state has an equal say in how the country should be run.
 
I don’t think there are that many economists who believe a trade deficit in and of itself is some sort of crisis that needs fixing. And I don’t think there are many economists out there who think the solutions wouldn’t be worse than the supposed problem, because the solutions all mean a great many consumer goods go up in price.
 
No, it is not “treason” for those elected to the legislative branch to resist what some other elected official is trying to accomplish and needs cooperation to accomplish. What on earth…where did that idea even come from? Who on earth talks about members of Congress merely doing what they were elected to do as “treason” and yet dismisses the courts as eroding the Constitution? What would erode the Constitution more than gutting the power of the legislative branch or making it possible to sue journalists for writing true but unflattering stories?

Honestly, some of the rationales I hear coming from Trump and his supporters sounds like the doublespeak out from 1984.
 
anon65111186 said:
Continue to pray for them and the foolish, short-sighted, selfish and gullible Trump detractors who are ruining this nation and planet as well, just to be fair.
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I knew the tu quoque defense would come up. It always does. :roll_eyes:
 
I think the word treason as ceased to have any actual meaning, or if it does, what it seems to mean is “lawmaker doesn’t wear my ideological stripes, or doesn’t wear them reliably, therefor said lawmaker is a traitor.”

It may surprise some, but the Founding Fathers’ intent was that Congress would be a house of debate, and that that debate would extend to the actions of the Presidency. It was not supposed to be a house of mindless partisanship and blind faith.
 
anon65111186 said:
I know full well what footage you are referring too. My point is you don’t know his relationship with God, nor is it your part to judge his heart, because you can’t know it.
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Yet the Bible also tells us that we can know someone by their fruits. In the case of a democracy, at least some sort of reasoned understanding of the character of someone must be determined. Even outside of elections, an employee may try make a determination of a candidate for employment based on an interview, an essay, even social media.
 
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