Do Catholics still support Trump

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I don’t even watch TV, or other media and I know that he rolled back the immoral and conscience-violating HHS mandate on the Little Sisters of the Poor. They had to file suit and carry their case to the US supreme Court! Is that their mission, or was it to prevent their consciences from being violated?

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po18guy said:
I find it very curious that accusations are being raised after 40 years. Not during his very public life. Not when he announced either candidacy. Not when he campaigned. No victim civil suits for millions - if the claims were true.
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I’m gonna assume (please correct me if I’m wrong) that you’ve never been a victim of sexual violence. Women (and men) tend not to be believed regardless of when they come forward, especially if they’re accusing someone in a position of power. The Me Too campaign has opened the floodgates, and now women feel a lot safer coming forward.
 
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I look at all cases at the best regard, i see other people that have been accused and seem guilty (Weinstein, Cosby), but i just can’t jump to believe the Moore case. Its controversial.
So you had your say on Moore, but back to supporting Trump i got to say, we should all biblically support him, and by you saying God didn’t appoint him is weird. How do you know God didn’t appoint him, i just send you Romans and1st Peter
 
Btw Po18guy your saying some solid points my bro, thank you for your share
 
I investigated it for 31 years, but that’s not being a victim.
I investigated real crimes and fake ones.
Human behavior follows patterns.
I take that into consideration.

If you or I default one way or the other, the problem is not anywhere but our mirror.

Just saying.
 
po18guy said:
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Yeah, and Hitler built great roads. You know what else Trump is trying to do?

Cut $193 million from TRIO and GEAR UP, which provide academic counseling to underprivileged children and veterans.

Cut $3.9 billion from the Pell Grant program, which helps underprivileged undergrads pay for college.

Cut $616 billion from Medicaid and CHIP (Children’s Health Insurance Program), on top of the $800 million cut that the AHCA makes to Medicaid.

Cut $948 million from the HOME Investment Partnerships Program, the biggest federal grant that subsidizes affordable housing.

So pro-life. So pro-America.
 
I voted for the constitutionalist party candidate Darrell Castle, but if somebody had forced me to choose between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, I would’ve chosen Trump without hesitation. I think he has spoken arrogantly and crudely, deliberately insulting many people, and the flawed character he has shown consistently gives me doubt that he will follow through with the political goals he claims to have. However, he isn’t a secretive liar with evil political goals like Clinton. The slaughter of 3000 children a day is the greatest injustice the world is facing and I will gladly support someone that at least says they want to end it over someone that says they want to add to it.
 
Actually, you’re right, he’s not really any better than any other politician when it comes to lying

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.
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However I still find Hillary Clinton to be more scandalous. Even if she was scandal free, I could never support someond that is pro-choice. If Clinton was elected, not only would she not try to limit or rid abortions, but she would try to make the easier to get, and more common. She even supported infanticide. I really don’t like how Trump has spoken, but I abhor Clinton’s political views.
 
Regardless of how one feels about the man or whether one voted for him, he is our President and the leader of our country. I pray for him to be guided by God and to do his job reasonably well, for the good of the nation.
 
Mavzylor said:
However I still find Hillary Clinton to be more scandalous.
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Doesn’t matter anymore. Trump is president now, and he’s doing his darnedest to screw all of us over. He’s our employee, and we have a responsibility to make our voices heard when he’s not doing his job, without any of this “ordained by God” rubbish.
 
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MamasBoy33 said:
I look at all cases at the best regard, i see other people that have been accused and seem guilty (Weinstein, Cosby), but i just can’t jump to believe the Moore case. Its controversial.
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I generally wouldn’t wade into this, but are you really comfortable with electing a guy who only might be a pedophile? Who had been accused by multiple, unconnected women? Who had been banned from local shopping malls because of his behaviour towards young women? There was no single interview with this man in which he did NOT raise serious doubts about his own credibility in this matter.

And this absolutely does reflect on President Trump. He supported Moore. The only difference between Moore and Weinstein is that Weinstein admitted what he had done. It is a complete cop-out to say “Well, it hasn’t been proven.” 95% of what President Trump utters and flings at other people hasn’t been proven, but it doesn’t stop him from relying on it. Remember the totally fictitious “wire-tapping” accusations?

Of course, what else can we expect from a president who has been accused of similarly deplorable behaviour by countless women? Who was captured, on tape, talking about women in an incredibly denigrating and derogatory fashion?

If you prefer Trump because he is not a Democrat, so be it. I’m personally never so blind to party lines. But for heaven’s sake can we please stop sweeping all the horrendous things he does under a rug and offering him excuses? This man is the President of the United States. Hold him to a higher standard. Hold him to any standard.
 
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Mavzylor said:
The slaughter of 3000 children a day is the greatest injustice the world is facing and I will gladly support someone that at least says they want to end it over someone that says they want to add to it.
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Trump is making huge cuts to a vast number of social programs which make it easier/more affordable for women to bring their pregnancies to term. He can pay lip service to the pro-life movement all he wants, but he’s not actually saving any children.
 
casslean said:
If you prefer Trump because he is not a Democrat, so be it. I’m personally never so blind to party lines. But for heaven’s sake can we please stop sweeping all the horrendous things he does under a rug and offering him excuses? This man is the President of the United States. Hold him to a higher standard. Hold him to any standard.
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Aaaaaaaaaaaamen!
 
I did not vote for Trump. I really think he’s so ill-equipped for the job it is laughable.
I did not vote for Hillary Clinton. Thank God she did not win.
It was a tough election year.
 
Nobody is morally required to support Trump. Indeed, one could only vote for him because the alternative was worse
 
I don’t like mixing religion and politics unless one is directly impacting the other. And politics is messy. No one who gets to the highest office in the land can be, or stay, 100% squeaky clean. I happen to like Trump and most of his policies, but only because he is the closest to my political beliefs, not because I think he’s perfect.

People say they want change in Washington, but when they come face-to-face with someone who will create real change, it scares them. That goes for conservatives and liberals. The change candidate on the liberal side would have been Sanders, but I think he scared even the liberals and so his own party sunk him.

I also think that Clinton would have been the worst possible president and nearly anyone would have been a better choice. My voting choice was set early on: “Anyone who is not Hillary.”

At this point, the economy is better and trending up, which is the main factor, no matter what anyone says. As someone who has taught economics, I know the president really doesn’t have much direct impact on that, but he does have two strong indirect impacts: 1) He can create policies designed to support and not get in the way of a recovery, and 2) He can inspire confidence that shows up in rising stock prices, which affect us all, whether we own stock or not. Trump has done that in my view.

FWIW, even liberal pundits admit that Trump has a very strong shot at a second term, unless someone can find a “smoking gun” that makes him impeachable. So far, the opposition has done everything they can to do that and failed. So you may need to get used to him.
 
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