Do Catholics still support Trump

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But also remember, if they do make mistakes remember what Paul told Timothy

1 Timothy 2:1-2

1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men,
2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way.
 
So Paul is pointing directly to Trump in verse 2 in that letter to Timothy.
So if I don’t support our President or pray then I’m going against the bible.
If i continue to have anger against President Trump , then that’s sin because the bible says " Have anger but don’t let the sun come down on you" , so if i continue to have this anger continuously then wouldn’t i be disobeying the Word of God? Yes ib would
 
Human beings are not grapes.

If there were a 1 in 250 chance that your son were guilty of a crime, would you banish him?

Persecuting a large majority of people because of the choices of a small few is not moral.

For example, it is not moral to persecute all Catholic priests because a small few abuse children. I’m not willing to throw out all priests even though more than 1 in 250 are poison laced.
 
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StephenButler said:
I’m not willing to throw out all priests even though more than 1 in 250 are poison laced.
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Do you have any source to back up that calumnious assertion that more than 1 in every 250 Catholic Priests is a child abuser?

And simply being guilty of a crime is not sufficient to “banish” someone…

If I thought there was a 1 in 250 chance of my kid murdering me in my sleep, you better believe he’d be banished!
 
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I suppose if you accept the current polls, and if you accept that Catholic population is at least somewhat aligned with that of the general population, then between 30-50% of Catholics support president Trump. The remainder of Catholics do not.
 
That’s not particular to Trump, though. Gallup polls say that less than 50% of Americans have a lot of confidence in:
  • Organized religion
  • The Supreme Court
  • Congess
  • Big business
  • Newspapers
  • TV news
  • Organized labor
  • Public schools
  • Banks
  • Police
  • HMOs
The only institution researched that people have high confidence in is the military. So if your approval rating is less than 50%, you are in good company.
 
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Third, a politician who is accused of harassment is dealing with adults, who can get redress if the accused person harasses. Children need special protection.
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And that is a distinction with a difference. It makes my comparison more remote, not totally off, but more remote. Good point.
 
It is possible to respect someone even if you do not agree with them. He is the president. That said, I did not vote for him and I can’t really tell what guides his moral compass. He seems to be personally vulgar and temperamental, and as a leader his policy is all over the place morally (in that regard not different than most politicians.)
 
When I started this topic, i was thinking lots of Catholics do support him. I can’t really tell where we are at on percentage.
I know that mainly all Ordain ministry do support him. I think we should all five him a chance
 
Wolfie said:
It is possible to respect someone even if you do not agree with them. He is the president. That said, I did not vote for him and I can’t really tell what guides his moral compass. He seems to be personally vulgar and temperamental, and as a leader his policy is all over the place morally (in that regard not different than most politicians.)
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I would say, rather, it’s possible to respect the office. It’s well-nigh impossible to respect someone like him personally.
 
Spyridon said:
Imagine if you have a bag of grapes. There are 250 grapes in that bag. One single grape out of 250 is filled with Ricin and Cyanide.

Would you wash those grapes and put them in a bowl for your family to eat?
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Imagine there is no food that you can find that have a lower possibility of being tainted than the food that is in front of you. That’s not a guarantee that it isn’t tainted, but what are you going to do? Starve because you are so afraid of poison? No. You do your best to eliminate sources of the poison, but you have to eat.

Catholic priests are less likely to be pedophiles than other men. The seminaries are working to identify men who have problematic backgrounds. It is sensible to have protocols in place where a pedophile who did figure out how to become a priest would be denied a chance to offend. That’s about all you can do.

Whatever you do, there is no magic place where none of the adults can possibly be a pedophile. We haven’t gotten to be that good at identifying pedophiles. We do know that they will look to gain the reputation of someone who can be trusted, though, so whatever we do we need to refuse to give someone a place where they are above suspicion regardless of what they do.
 
MamasBoy33 said:
Yes I absolutely feel God appointed Clinton , Obama and other Presidents.
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Even Nero was in power by the permissive Will of God. That meant that he had the authority to pass binding laws. It didn’t mean he wasn’t a danger that needed to be opposed by those in a position to oppose him.

That is the difference: We who are voters have a duty to make our expectations known. We cannot give someone a pass for being a little better than someone who was utterly unacceptable.
 
StephenButler said:
It depends on how you look at it. For me, being a good neighbor is a top priority. A good neighbor is the one who helps you out of a ditch rather than throwing you in one.
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Jason Lewis said it best “why do liberals almost never live next to the people on welfare”?
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When we choose to defund public schools in favor of charter schools in an underhanded attempt to separate wealthy students from poor students, we are not being a good neighbor.
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You may start by asking Democrats who push for funding for public education but send their kids to a private school.
 
A lot of what he is trying to do is going to take time. People will need to be patient.
 
PetraG said:
Even Nero was in power by the permissive Will of God.
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So yes , people are appointed. We were appointed to be born also. You see God knew i would be a huge sinner and He still have me life.
Just because A person is appointed doesn’t mean they will do the Will of God. Trust me i wish they would.
We are all given that opportunity to be a Light but he fail for various reasons.
Remember Judas was chosen to be an Apostle but what happened? Yes he failed the task to stay righteous and betrayed Jesus.
 
Remember also, we all started to vote for him as a sacrificial vote because Hillary and her pro choice campaign.
At this point I do not regret my vote and saying that i loved what Jesse Romero said from immaculate Heart radio " he is the best President i have seen in my 56 years of living"
Amen
 
I fully understand the anti-Hilary crowd… I don’t think I’ll ever understand the pro-trump crowd. How any Catholic could support Trump is beyond me
 
Pro-choice, anti-marriage, anti-prosperity big government corrupt candidates and being made fun of and brushed aside by the media a lot of times beyond satire for over 30 years will do it.
 
So chronic lying, being pro-choice until the election cycle, being a public adulterer and, not least, being a sexual predator have no standing with you?
 
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