Do Catholics still support Trump

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Do you Catholics or Christians still support him?
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It depends what you mean by support.

I did not campaign for him or contribute financially during his candidacy and we still have very different political opinions. His decorum while in office is consistent with what it was prior to being elected and I wasn’t a fan then.
 
And as I stated my husband owns a small business and has never owed corporate tax. I can wake him up to confirm if you like.
 
Especially when giving less to the poor means the rich pay less. The poor will need to wait for the trickle down.
 
whyeyeman said:
The corporate tax cut will be best for small business as well. Big corporations avoid tax anyway
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Most small businesses file as Schedule Cs or S-corps - neither of those entities pay any Federal taxes at the corporate level.
 
“Giving to the poor” (charity) is not the same as “being forced to give to the government in the hopes some of it will get to the poor after a lot of fat cats have taken a cut. (taxes)”
 
whyeyeman said:
In what way is Mr Trump “screwing up”? By letting you keep more of your earnings?
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How is it a gain if Trump causes us to pay less taxes, but our grandchildren have to pay the difference back with interest?
 
If it increases GNP, they won’t have to pay it back any more than any other generation has had to. The same if we reduce spending. It is a calculated risk but there is the risk of not stimulating the economy. The national debt, both in total and as a % of GNP, climbed faster under Obama that it since WWII and employment was way down. A strong economy reduces national debt better than higher taxes.
 
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If it increases GNP, they won’t have to pay it back any more than any other generation has had to.
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First of all, there is no credible economist who thinks that these tax cuts will pay for themselves. While tax changes can have behavioral effects, at these tax rates they tend to be relatively small. So our future generations will have to pay more. We need solid economic analysis, not wishful thinking.
The same if we reduce spending. It is a calculated risk but there is the risk of not stimulating the economy. The national debt, both in total and as a % of GNP, climbed faster under Obama that it since WWII and employment was way down. A strong economy reduces national debt better than higher taxes.
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First of all, there is no plan to reduce spending. Second, the national debt almost always goes up and rarely falls.
 
Not only “safer” but also more empowered to “come forward,” since all reasonable and legal doubts about allegations are just being set aside by many. The problem with being on a roller coaster is when it picks up momentum it powers itself. Truth and justice do not function that way. They ought to be restraints on power. Unfortunately, we live in a time when power is the operative word while truth and justice are denigrated, even by many who are well-intentioned. Cases such as this are being “decided” in the court of public opinion absent trial, and the “safer” people feel to make allegations the less likely they will be to want a fair trial for the accused.

This will not end well.
 
I find him a vile and despicable man, a sad sorry excuse for a Christian, and a POTUS who is on the road to impeachment.

Sure, Catholics CAN support Trump…

But it’s pretty obvious that the US Bishops and the Pope himself staunchly oppose key items on Trumps agenda.

For what it’s worth, I staunchly oppose Clinton as well, and Bernie Sanders too. Oh and I also fiercely opposed Obama.

I’m a registered Independent — in 2016 I voted for Marco Rubio in the primaries, then Mike Maturen for POTUS (a man who ran for the American Solidarity Party, a Catholic political party whose platform is straight from the Catholic teachings on social justice), I voted for a Republican Governor, several Democrats or Republicans for other things, and one Independent and one Libertarian.

I don’t vote Republican or Democrat - I vote Catholic.
 
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The irony of @yankeesouth posting “Do I support a pro life president? Yes.” immediately after @FJ2000 said “Do Catholics Still Support Trump? As long as he says he is anti-abortion, a certain portion of Catholics will continue to drink the kool-aid.:crazy_face:” is quite striking. Very disturbing.

I would that more US Catholics would follow the Pope and the US Bishops — if they did, they’d doubtless be opposing Trump.
 
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@MamasBoy33

Mighty Warlord and god-Emperor Trump is pleased with your sycophantic support of him.

Donald Trump feeds on personal praise like a vampire feeds on blood. His ego level is definitely over 9000!

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Not disturbing at all given that the democratic candidate and the party in general pretty much lays waste to the five Catholic pro life non negotiables. Of course I follow the bishops…

Archbishop Chaput: Other Moral Issues Not Equivalent to Abortion

“Any politics of human dignity must seriously address issues of racism, poverty, hunger, employment, education, housing and health care. … But being ‘right’ in such matters can never excuse a wrong choice regarding direct attacks on innocent human life.”

“Indeed, the failure to protect and defend life in its most vulnerable stages renders suspect any claims to the ‘rightness’ of positions in other matters affecting the poorest and least powerful of the human community” (“Living the Gospel of Life,” 22).
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Archbishop Joseph Naumann Elected Head of Bishops’ Pro-Life Committee

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BALTIMORE — In a move seen as an endorsement of St. John Paul II’s “culture of life” approach, the U.S. bishops Tuesday elected Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas, as chairman of the conference’s Committee on Pro-Life Activities.
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I have a sincere question @yankeesouth

Why is it that you and other Trump supporters, when encountering people who oppose Trump, automatically jump to the conclusion that that person MUST therefore be a Democrat and support Clinton and her ilk?

What is up with that?
 
Support him with some caveats on economy and the Saudis/Israel. Basically to the extent he eschews neoliberalism/neoconservativism.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Patronizing you? I guess I would be stressed out living in South Korea too with the unstable leader to the north of you.
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I don’t know about living with an unstable leader to the north, but I know it’s pretty freaking stressful living with the unstable leader in the country to the south of me.
 
Lol…you just admitted to voting for democrats. You are also voting for that candidate’s poltical party platform. One which lays waste to the pro life teachings of Jesus. How come to don’t follow the bishops?
 
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