Does God violate our free will by making us die

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We don’t have full control; we can’t will to be something we aren’t-and expect it to happen. We’re limited, created beings. But we have freedom to control our moral lives and therefore we are accountable for what we do, right or wrong.

And we don’t die anyway, in the sense of no longer having existence. So our moral choices are what separate us from God, and the Church teaches that persistence in mortal sin is necessary, and that persistence can most likely be in the actual continuous committing of the sin, or in the love of it.
 
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So you think God should allow us to be immortal as long as we remain in sin? How is that justice? How does that not have an extremely adverse effect on the young people in the world (ie those who are still living their natural life) by forcing them to live with an ever increasing number of evil people?

Also, the further away from a holy life one falls, the more it takes the prospect of death in order for them to repent. Yet, you would propose that God take that final means of grace away from them and just let them live in their evil ways indefinitely.

All of this says nothing of how God should ever handle this at the end of the world. I suppose if God was to take this tact, the world would have to go on forever.
 
St Ligori was not speaking infallibly, remember this. Just because someone is a Saint does not mean that their words are perfect.

Remember that you are reading a translation, and translators choose words in an art, however, unless you read the original language it can be hard to grasp the full meaning of those words.

Look at this one line from your above linked homily You cannot be certain of living for another hour, and you say: I will go to confession tomorrow. Listen to the words of St. Gregory: “He who has promised pardon to penitents, has not promised tomorrow to sinners” – Hom. 12

This is saying what we have all told you. You are promised mercy if you repent, you are not promised tomorrow, so do not put off repentance.

We do not accidentally commit mortal sin, we know we are sinning. When you know you haved sinned, do you repent?
 
Why die if you are in sin? it will make no one happy, God, the sinner or their family. It is not about justice so much as it being about mercy, a death is not a friendly or welcome thing for a sinner.
 
Again, how do you answer the question of how the world would end up with a vast majority of evil people in it? In your scenario, God lets the good people die, but he perserves the life of the evil indefinitely. That is not justice.
 
God is not sitting around waiting to GOTCHA.

Stop reading the things that make you doubt God’s mercy.
 
The solution to your issue is not “do not die”, it is “do not sin, and if you do, then go to confession ASAP”. You are essentially asking for the rules of the universe to be changed simply for your perceived convenience but ultimately to the detriment of all people, including yourself if you really think about it.
 
I have promised to not sin again many times in confession but have ended up sinning again, I am sorry but if God makes it so easy to commit mortal sin then why trust in him? I have lost trust in God because I have sinned within days of coming out of the confessional. Is there something wrong with me? my priest seemed to think so when I told him how often I sin.
 
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oliver109 said:
, I am sorry but if God makes it so easy to commit mortal sin then why trust in him?
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What is easy about mortal sins?

God does not “make it easy” to sin, in fact, God has promised that there will never be a temptation to sin where there is not a way to escape the sin. Sometimes we just don’t like the way that eludes the sin.
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my priest seemed to think so when I told him how often I sin.
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This could be a problem called “scrupulosity”. I would advise you to make an appointment to talk to your priest and see if he thinks this might be applicable.

https://scrupulousanonymous.org/
 
Commiting a mortal sin is not difficult in the same way that breaking into the white house is difficult or stealing a 747 jet is genuinely difficult. having a lustful thought? not difficult having a hateful thought? not difficult. having a despairing thought? not difficult. being slothful? not difficult.
 
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having a lustful thought?
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Having a lustful thought is not an automatic mortal sin.

Indulging in that thought can be sinful.

When those thoughts come to mind, pray “Lord, thank you for making such a beautiful person. I pray that you will bless this person, their family and keep them close to you.”

Same for hateful thoughts, pray for the person about whom you had that thought.

Despair? Again simply pray “Jesus, I trust in you!” and re-direct that thought.

If you cannot dismiss these thoughts, talk to your doctor about “intrusive thoughts”.
 
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if God makes it so easy
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Is it God “making it easy” or you not fighting the temptation? You have to do your part as well. I know from experience that many things named as sin are very enjoyable in the moment and difficult to resist. But I also know from experience that the more you resist the easier resisting becomes.

At the risk of a flag, and as my final post on this thread, quit blaming God for your failures.
 
Well indulging in such thoughts is still easy, that is the problem, there is nothing difficult about commiting mortal sin, in many ways it is difficult to avoid mortal sin at least for some, I am not one of the blessed that finds avoiding mortal sin easy.
 
I am not fighting the temptation, that is true but why does God make fighting temptations difficult?
 
It was not easy to walk the first time you tried it, or the 10th time, or the 100th time, but, one day you let loose and took a step and did not fall down. Today you walk without even thinking about it.

Keep trying, strengthen your will as you would strengthen you body for a race.
 
I have kept trying and it is hard hopefully I will be sin free and remain sin free, what I will say is that I will not allow God to separate the soul from my body if it is in a state of mortal sin, why should I?
 
Because you cannot stop death from happening. It is not a “should” question.

The way to look at it “every time I sin I am going to repent so I do not die in separation from God”.

Please, talk to your priest about scrupulosity.
 
That is why I posted in the first place as to why God will make me die? I do not like to feel like God will separate my soul simply because nature demands it. Who is choosing that I die? God? if so then why does he not give me the choice about if I die or not?
 
May I suggest getting enrolled in the Brown Scapular and following the basic rules of that scapular. It seems as if you have an unfounded belief that God will happen to take you after a lustful thought or some other transgression. Perhaps having Our Lady’s promise of a death in grace will put you at ease, and then suddenly you will realize you have beaten some of your demons after all.
 
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