Does the SSPX speak uncharitably of the Jews?

[marymonde]

I don’t know, perhaps Catholics are confused between the Jewish people as a race and their religious affliation, Judaism. Anti-semitism stems from the hatred of the race of the Jewish people. It is perfectly acceptable to pray for their conversion to the Catholic faith, for they need the Catholic Church for their eternal salvation. I know a Jewish woman who has converted to Roman Catholicism, she just left her faith, Judaism. She is still a Jew, but her faith is Roman Catholic.

Now if we want to study Zionism, which is what the state of Israel practices…well this is a whole other can of worms…

 

[chosen_people]

I don’t know, perhaps Catholics are confused between the Jewish people as a race and their religious affliation, Judaism. Anti-semitism stems from the hatred of the race of the Jewish people. It is perfectly acceptable to pray for their conversion to the Catholic faith, for they need the Catholic Church for their eternal salvation. I know a Jewish woman who has converted to Roman Catholicism, she just left her faith, Judaism. She is still a Jew, but her faith is Roman Catholic.

Now if we want to study Zionism, which is what the state of Israel practices…well this is a whole other can of worms…

Well it actually quite simple concerning Zionism when you read some of the posts here. Can you imagine living as an minority with people who think Jews bear the mark of Cain and should wander the world for eternity in punishment? Kids coming home hurt and crying.Can you grasp the frustration and pain? What’s a parent going to do against such blind stupid hate? He can’t do anything. Now if he lives in Israel his children grow up free and strong in the Jewish state untainted by antisemitism. So I can understand why every antisemite is also an antiZionist. I also understand that their pathological hate for Jews is transferred to the Jewish State. What I don’t understand is why a minority of Christians are still being filled with such hate. Why are only some affected? Does it depend on the particular Church or local Priest or Parents? Why this dichotomy between Christians of generous spirit and tolerance and between those who without ever having met me hate me because I’m Jewish? Any answers people!

 

[batteddy]

Where does this hate come from? Your religious beliefs? Post Vatican II Catholics believe that Jews bear the mark of Cain and are to wander homeless throughout the world? Not to my knowledge. Who taught you these things? Your parents? Your priest?

No. My opinions about zionism and the jews are a major bone of contention with my parents, and the priests and my Novus Ordo church are very warm towards the jews. We visited a synagogue in CCD.

There is no such thing as “post vatican ii” catholics. There is only Catholics, before or after a council. The Jewish lobby did not succeed in changing his Church. Modern popes may not speak more friendly towards the Jews. But they are only 5 out of 265 Popes of equal authority whose teachings we must weigh. And there is a rightful suspicious about Jewry more than any mere paganism (though both should convert). At the same time of religiously and politically opposing them, Catholics have been heroically charitable towards Jews as individual human beings (and Im sure vice versa).

No, my anger towards jewry and zionism is mainly from their attitudes clashing with mine.

I guess my curiosity, and then research into, the insidious side of talmudic judaism, the zionist lobby, and jewish influence in financing and the media, started with that ridiculous ADL uproar over “The Passion of the Christ.” As if portraying some evil Jews 2000 years ago meant anything about Jews today! May we portray no Jews as evil characters in literature? Can they do no wrong? It was not their place, and it really revealed how they think of themselves (as does your screenname). Are Shylock and Fagin really offenses to all of Jewry just because they were bad stereotypical individuals? Should Christians be offended by every Christian portrayed as evil? No, it’s ridiculous because humans are humans, not “Jews” or “Gentiles,” “Black,” or “white”…in Him there is no Jew nor Greek, no man nor woman, no slave nor free. We are individuals. But I found out that Zionism is just as much of a rascist blood-cult as Nazism. Only the Catholic Church presumes to unite all mankind without regard to any sort of dividing of the world into “us” and “them”.

I have been raised in a public school system which has taught nothing but good things about the jews, by parents who had nothing bad to say about them, by novus ordo priests who were very favorable towards them. If you claim I have “hatred,” the Jews brought it on themselves through their own political behaviour. Because everyone in my life has been simply adulated with the Jews. Worshipping them as sacred cows basically (hmm…that reminds me of another bible story…), untouchable, forever removed from debate because of their suffering…ridiculous, but that is how the world treats them.

But on the same note, I really have respect for some Jews. Like the hasidim, especially those who do not believe in the reconstructed Israel. I have also looked into them, and if I wasn’t Catholic, hasidic judaism would be in my top 5 religions to pick from. It is this new, naturalistic, secular, nationalist “judaism” that really burns me. It insists upon itself.

So I can understand why every antisemite is also an antiZionist. I also understand that their pathological hate for Jews is transferred to the Jewish State.

No. I am only against a Jewish State in THAT particular place, and with it’s level of political influence. If it was an obscure eastern european state (which really makes more sense), I would be fine with it.

After the holocaust, Germany (and the complacent Poland) could have been punished by taking a chunk of Poland (and I am an ethnic Pole saying this) and giving it to the Jews (who were largely eastern european, NOT palestinian). Instead…we help the Jews by the taking the land of another long suffering people??? It makes no sense. And I am religiously against them returning to the holy land. But I would be fine with a state in eastern europe. As long as it did not hold america at its beck and call like it does today, a river of american gold flowing into apostate jerusalem every year because of some ridiculous Fundamentalist Dispensationalist beliefs that are allegedly “christian”.

 

[MikeinSD]

Three million Polish Jews died 1939-1945. Sadly, like in Holland, France, the Czech Republic, etc, many were denounced by their neighbors. People who know these victims all their lives. And they took their Jewish neighbors’ property and money as Nazis and their allies shipped their victims to the death camps. Robbing the dead. Robbing their neighbors. I doubt Jesus, a Jew, would be applauding.

And how can anyone who believes Jesus is the Son of God, as the Catholic church teaches, be a Jew hater? Mary, the mother of Jesus, was Jewish. Peter was Jewish. James was Jewish. All the people Jesus loved and taught were Jewish.

I’m sorry “venomous pathological hatred” against the Jewish people still exists. In the US. And apparently in Poland too. How anti-Jesus, anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, can you get?

 

[batteddy]

I don’t think a Christian can be a Jew hater.

Those who hurt Cain will be punished sevenfold. God keeps his promises, and still loves and protects them until the end of time and the Conversion of the Jews, whose obstinancy was fated to open salvation to the Gentiles.

 

[MikeinSD]

I don’t think a Christian can be a Jew hater.

Those who hurt Cain will be punished sevenfold. God keeps his promises, and still loves and protects them until the end of time and the Conversion of the Jews, whose obstinancy was fated to open salvation to the Gentiles.

Jews are people, not a category – and not some mythical “Cain.” I’m so sorry. But yr postings are anti-Jewish. And not in line with Catholic teachings.

 

[batteddy]

Well, not most Catholic teaching that you’d hear in the past 40 years. But I have plenty of Popes and great saints behind me.

I have always said that Jewish humans are individuals. The “group” is an abstraction. But an abstraction that is nevertheless used (starting in the bible) as a powerful eschatological symbol. But each person may be good or bad (and many have been good)

The “church” is an abrstraction too: there are only individuals. And yet it is a real symbol confering grace, the sacrament of salvation in the world. And yet each Christian individually may be good or bad (and many have been bad)

 

[marymonde]

Three million Polish Jews died 1939-1945. Sadly, like in Holland, France, the Czech Republic, etc, many were denounced by their neighbors. People who know these victims all their lives. And they took their Jewish neighbors’ property and money as Nazis and their allies shipped their victims to the death camps… How anti-Jesus, anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, can you get?

During WWII Christians in Russia, especially in the Ukraine, were slaughtered, some estimates are put at 100 million. Their property was taken from them as well. I won’t go into Croatia and other parts of the world. EVERYONE, no matter what race, bears the guilt of original sin and it’s horrible effects. Without Christ, His Church, and the sacraments the hatred of certain groups of people will always exist. It always has, it always will.

Galatians 3:26 For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you be Christ’s, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3: 11 Where there is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put ye on therefore, as the elect of God, holy, and beloved, the bowels of mercy, benignity, humility, modesty, patience: 13 Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another: even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also. 14 But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection: 15 And let the peace of Christ rejoice in your hearts, wherein also you are called in one body: and be ye thankful.

 

[batteddy]

EVERYONE, no matter what race, bears the guilt of original sin and it’s horrible effects.

I’d advise you, especially in dealing with the Orthodox, not to use the phrase “the guilt of original sin”. Because it isn’t personal guilt. I’d say “the effects of original sin”…it is not a personal sin nor personal guilt. Rather it is a fallen nature and lack of relationship with God.

One of the major bones of contention the Orthodox have with us is really just a misunderstanding. They think that we believe Original Sin is a real personal sin with personal guilt attached which we would be held culpable for. I guess that misconception is understandable considering that we use the word “sin” in the name rather confusingly. But do not speak of the “guilt” of original sin (even though that can indeed, in the western tradition, be understood correctly) because it really hurts our relationship with the Orthodox.

 

[bones_IV]

Seriously, that’s just a silly thing to say.

Are you making yourself more holier than the Church?

 

[marymonde]

I’d advise you, especially in dealing with the Orthodox, not to use the phrase “the guilt of original sin”. Because it isn’t personal guilt. I’d say “the effects of original sin”…it is not a personal sin nor personal guilt. Rather it is a fallen nature and lack of relationship with God.

One of the major bones of contention the Orthodox have with us is really just a misunderstanding. They think that we believe Original Sin is a real personal sin with personal guilt attached which we would be held culpable for. I guess that misconception is understandable considering that we use the word “sin” in the name rather confusingly. But do not speak of the “guilt” of original sin (even though that can indeed, in the western tradition, be understood correctly) because it really hurts our relationship with the Orthodox.

St. Paul stated the fact in his Epistle to the Romans (5:12).

“By one man sin entered into this world (and by sin death and so death passed upon all men) in whom all have sinned.”

These quotes from the Council of Trent and its Catechism well illustrate the traditional Catholic doctrine.

Council of Trent: “If any one denies, that, by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is conferred in baptism, the guilt of original sin is remitted, let him be anathema.” (Session Five)

Council of Trent: “If any one asserts, that this sin of Adam – which in its origin is one, and being transfused into all by propagation, is in each one as his own – is taken away by any other remedy than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema.” (Session Five)

Council of Trent: “If any one asserts, that the prevarication of Adam injured himself alone, and not his posterity; and that the holiness and justice, received of God, which he lost, he lost for himself alone, and not for us also; or that he, being defiled by the sin of disobedience, has only transfused death and the punishments of the body into the whole human race, but not sin also, which is the death of the soul; let him be anathema.”

Catechism of Trent: “Wherefore, the pastor should not omit to remind the faithful that the guilt and punishment of original sin were not confined to Adam, but justly descended from him, as from their source and cause, to all posterity. To remedy the evil and repair the loss it became necessary that the Son of God should remove the infinite weight of sin and reconcile us to God in His blood.” (1, 2, 2)

The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1913 was clear on the matter.

“In baptism the guilt of original sin is wiped out and the soul is cleansed and justified again by the infusion of sanctifying grace. The Council of Trent (Sess. V, e.v.) defines that by the grace of baptism the guilt of original sin is completely remitted and does not merely cease to be imputed to man.” (Concupiscence)

“As to infant baptism Pelagius granted that it ought to be administered in the same form as in the case of adults, not in order to cleanse the children from a real original guilt, but to secure to them entrance into the ‘kingdom of God’.” (Pelagius and Pelagianism)

 

[batteddy]

Oh no, I agree. But it is certainly a different type of “guilt” from personal sin. And to help reunion with the Orthodox, I would not use the term “guilt” which they find extremely problematic. They think of it only in terms of personally culpable sin which can merit punishment, whereas for us it is any lack of sanctifying grace including the one we are unculpably born with. I’d translate the latin from the decrees by a different word than “guilt” which carries especially for the Orthodox a rather harsh, Augustinian, legalistic conception of mankind as a “mass damnata” personally guilty for someone else’s sin.

 

[marymonde]

I’d advise you, especially in dealing with the Orthodox, not to use the phrase “the guilt of original sin”. .

My dh is a convert from the Greek Orthodox church. I showed him what the Church teaches and he believed and came into the True Church, the Roman Catholic Church. His Greek aunt did as well. People will always be offended by what Christ and His Church teaches, it’s a given, Christ said it would be so. Recall how many walked away from Him when He preached we had eat His Flesh and drink His Blood to have everlasting life. If the Orthodox truly are of good will and pray for the Truth, they will be given to it as Holy Mother Church teaches it. We don’t have to keep our traditions that were handed down to us under a bushel basket.

 

[marymonde]

Oh no, I agree. But it is certainly a different type of “guilt” from personal sin. And to help reunion with the Orthodox, I would not use the term “guilt” which they find extremely problematic. They think of it only in terms of personally culpable sin which can merit punishment, whereas for us it is any lack of sanctifying grace including the one we are unculpably born with. I’d translate the latin from the decrees by a different word than “guilt” which carries especially for the Orthodox a rather harsh, Augustinian, legalistic conception of mankind as a “mass damnata” personally guilty for someone else’s sin.

I think we got away from the intent of what I was trying to convey in my previous post. I don’t want to get into the semantics of picking apart one word from the main idea, that people are cruel to one another because of our sinful nature. It doesn’t make a bit of difference who the group is. For instance, the most vunerable group of human beings, the unborn, are aborted by the thousands everyday, by their own mothers. THE definition of a holocaust. But because it is politically correct to wipe helpless infants off the face of the earth, and declared a right, no bigotry is attributed to it. Matter of fact most people who are prolife will say it is because of the parents being sinfully selfish. Now if the Jews want a certain strip of land, and the Palestinians want the same piece, and kill each other over it, well anti-semitism is introduced in the media, when all the while the true motive MAY be one person just wants what the other has, being selfish. I know the issues are much more complex, so PLEASE don’t anyone here feel the need to explain the situation in depth, I don’t really want to get into it, but the motives ARE usually no different than any other mortal sin.

IMHO, people will use any excuse to commit evil, we don’t have to make the issue bigger and say, well it is because this person is an anti-semite, or this person is a KKK member. This is secular society drilling it into our brains. Until someone speaks up and says it is because of our inclination towards evil, then we really won’t wipe out the root of the problem.

So bottom line, I believe the SSPX, from what I have read, just follows the Catholic line of thinking that the Jews need Jesus Christ and His Church for their eternal salvation. I think that is a VERY charitable attitude to take, loving a race of people so that they want them to attain eternal life.

 

[batteddy]

I don’t want to get into the semantics of picking apart one word from the main idea, that people are cruel to one another because of our sinful nature.

Yeah, I agree. But I’ve just come to think that a lot of the barrier to Catholic-Orthodox dialogue IS mainly just semantical misunderstandings. And if the word “guilt” is a stumbling block to them…why use it when “sinful nature” or whatever is more precise, as well as being more agreeable to them.

 

[st_julie]

There is a truly welcome side to the efforts to seperate antisemitism and Catholic church doctrine in that it indicates that good Catholics abhor antisemitsm and do not consider it a part of their religious faith.
The word antisemitism had a different definition added by Hitler, when he applied it to a whole race. . You point out that Catholic leaders have persecuted Jews for 2000 years. Unless you attribute any negative comment as persecution then I say the generalization is BUNK. You make your ancestors into weak snivelling cowards when in fact they were smart, resourseful and occarionally cunning. Usury caused the greatest angers , but I think you know that. You talk about “ghettos” as something terrible but the Jewish need to remain separate meant that they created many of their own neighborhoods.
I think that a discussion of the historical reasons behind Christian antisemitism is less important than is understanding its deep roots, its forms and the suffering it created, I find that the true breath and depth of Christian persecution of the Jews and the role of the Catholic Church in that persecution over two millenium, is not properly known and understood. Too often discussions on this forum take the form of a debate whether the Cruaders massacred “only” 20,000 - 30,000 Jews or whether the number was higher.
This was the “peoples crusade” A bunch of hooligans if you ask me. They certainly did not have approval from the Church.
I think it is also incumbent that those people who would truly learn about Christian persecution of the Jews go to sources on the internet that may be more objective and detailed than those presented in a Catholic apologetics site.

The most important thing to know is that Christian antisemitism is still alive and well.
You say astisemitism is alive and well. Anticatholicism is also alive and well.
In the 1930’s a Catholic priest enthralled millions of North American listeners on the radio claiming that the Jews were undermining good Christian values, had caused the economic depression and wished to lead the United States to a “Jewish” war against Hitler.

Today in the 21st Century the rhetoric is that Jews are undermining good Christian values (“the war on Christmas” for example, “ACLU”), control all the money and have all the political power (“the Jewish lobby” “neocons”) and have led the United States and Britain to a “Jewish” war in Iraq, confrontation with Iran and are also to blame for 9/11.
You see this nonsense on anti catholic sites as well.
The above is the classic Catholic pre Vatican II antisemitism of Denis Fahey and Charles Coughlin- it is the rhetoric of the SSPX. It is important to learn about these people and their despicable ideology. Only then will people have the knowledge to fight antisemitism.

 

[chosen_people]

During WWII Christians in Russia, especially in the Ukraine, were slaughtered, some estimates are put at 100 million. Their property was taken from them as well. I won’t go into Croatia and other parts of the world. EVERYONE, no matter what race, bears the guilt of original sin and it’s horrible effects. Without Christ, His Church, and the sacraments the hatred of certain groups of people will always exist. It always has, it always will.

Galatians 3:26 For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you be Christ’s, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3: 11 Where there is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put ye on therefore, as the elect of God, holy, and beloved, the bowels of mercy, benignity, humility, modesty, patience: 13 Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another: even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also. 14 But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection: 15 And let the peace of Christ rejoice in your hearts, wherein also you are called in one body: and be ye thankful.

I know the subtle difference escapes you - but the Ukranians were not being killed by Jews and they were not being killed because they were Christians. On the hand, bloated with centuries of good old Christian antisemitism similar to that found on this thread- many Ukranian’s actively participated in the persecution and the murder of Jews during WWII - possibly more than any other non German group.

 

[marymonde]

I know the subtle difference escapes you - but the Ukranians were not being killed by Jews and they were not being killed because they were Christians. On the hand, bloated with centuries of good old Christian antisemitism similar to that found on this thread- many Ukranian’s actively participated in the persecution and the murder of Jews during WWII - possibly more than any other non German group.

Chosen,

There is no subtle difference. A sinner is a sinner, no matter what race the culprit is from that commits genocide. Perhaps if you looked into what happened in Russia you will find out that many of the communists were Jews, had Jewish roots, or had Jewish henchmen carry out their orders on mass genocide. They absolutely did massacre Christians because of their hate for a certain group of people. Google up Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin and see the Jewish connection. NOTE: I do not subscribe to every article on this website. However from books I have read on this topic, the info listed here is accurate on how involved the Jews were in organizing the Communist party.The fact that many of them changed their given names to cover up their Jewish association, is troubling to say the least. Even The Encyclopedia Judaica confirms the Jewish connection with communism in Russia.

ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.

Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.

A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or cultural loyalties with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen. “An intelligent Russian,” he once remarked, “is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood in his veins.”

Lenin: Lenin’s maternal grandfather was a Jew. Lenin’s Jewish ancestry is discussed in detail in Oxford University historian Robert Service’s biography Lenin (Harvard University Press, 2000). See also: “Lenin: Jewish roots of a revolutionary,” by Zev Ben-Shlomo, Jewish Chronicle, London, April 21, 1995 (fpp.co.uk/online/98/11/JConLenin210495.html)

Some insights from a Jewish writer:
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

 

[marymonde]

Sever Plocker

Stalin’s Jews

We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

Here’s a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, “opposition members” who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University’s Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined “terror officials,” cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.

All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union’s archives have not yet been fully opened to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD’s and KGB’s service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of “How could it have happened to us?” As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.”

Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.

 

[marymonde]

Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a “carnival of mass murder,” “fantasy of purges”, and “essianism of evil.” Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and “Soviet people.” Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and “play dumb”: What do we have to do with them? But let’s not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of “our hangmen,” who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.