Don't Hate Me. I Am Going To A SSPX This Sunday

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The person who began this original post was looking for advice for last Sunday…two days ago. And, the end result was…where did he go to Mass two days ago?

Kathie
 
kathielee said:
The person who began this original post was looking for advice for last Sunday…two days ago. And, the end result was…where did he go to Mass two days ago?

Kathie
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I went to St. John Cantius’ Low Mass at 7:30am. I’ll save my SSPX curiosity for another day. In the meantime, you Novus Ordo advocates can rest easy with respect to my soul; it’s not in schismatic jeopardy.

Perhaps God rewarded me because I made a junk of money today in the market’s bull run. My parish will get a fat envelope this week, Soprano style.

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ASimpleSinner said:
Will be?

The schism occured 20 years ago this year… SSPX followers are known - God Bless Em! - for their love of large families. Roundabouts this year and the next, the first group of 20somethings will be entering their formation programs having been raised in the SSPX environment for their entire lives.

One Transalpine Redemptorist notes:

5 years on the schism will have lasted for quarter century… And children baptized after the 88 consecrations will be (if they haven’t already) be getting their own children baptized. And that is just counting the children born after the consecrations. As Father alludes to in the quote, there were already a generation of children who were todlers that had only ever been aware of the SSPX system by the time of the excommunication, and that transition point was seamless to them - at 5, 6, 7 years old, they likely did not know.
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Well you have to remember that as far as the laity goes, we can’t point to exactly who is and who is not in schism. Also, the magic number, from the things I’ve read, seems to be 50 years before they are no longer labeled schismatics but separate bretheren.
 
laudamus_te said:
Good analogy. But I’d say the SSPX is like the son standing on the porch watching his family eat a Thanksgiving turkey that has been improperly cooked. He’s frantically waving at them to not eat it, lest they become gravely ill or even die. But the turkey and trimmings just look too good to that family and they can’t understand why the boy is waving at them so madly.
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Well, it doesn’t surprise me that’s how you see it but I’m not sure the Church takes that view. 😉 But, anyways, my attempt was more to show the position of the excommunicated in the Church rather than to address the SSPX or anyone else’s situation even though I used them as an example.
 
laudamus_te said:
How can a group be considered schismatic which has the teachings of more than 260 popes to back it up? Or do you think they were all invalidated with VII?
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Because there’s at least a little truth in all schisms?:rolleyes:
 
bear06 said:
Well you have to remember that as far as the laity goes, we can’t point to exactly who is and who is not in schism. Also, the magic number, from the things I’ve read, seems to be 50 years before they are no longer labeled schismatics but separate bretheren.
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I am not certain from just reading - is that intended to be sarcastic?
 
ASimpleSinner said:
I am not certain from just reading - is that intended to be sarcastic?
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Nope. No sarcasm at all. Ecclesia Dei did not declare the laity in schism. It warned them that should they adhere to the schism that they would be ipso fact excommunicated. The bishops were declared in schism and excommunicated, their priests suspended and the laity warned not to attend the chapel lest they slowly imbibe the schism. Msgr. Perl came out later and said that it’s probable that the priests, after so longer, were probably also in schism. Bishop Bruskewitz is the only bishop who has declared them excommunicated and his ruling only applies to those in his diocese. I’m pretty sure that some, if not a majority, probably have imbibed the schism. That said, it is not in my purview to say “You are in schism and you are not”. Nobody else from the Holy See has done this either. So, it’s a little hard to p(name removed by moderator)oint when someone has joined the schism. I’m not sure where the 50 year mark comes in but it seems that it’s basically a way to say that the first generation is now gone. Anyways, nobody can be born into schism.
 
Father_Tom said:
Coming to a Catholic website, espousing the misguided “virtues” of the SSPX, could be considered libelous in itself. “Slander” is a term reserved for the spoken word.

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How so libelous?

And as far as slander being spoken, yes legally, but essentially since one cannot speak over the internet, one posts.
 
Aramis said:
If you adhere to the SSPX, you already ceased being Catholic, according to Moto Proprio Ecclesia Dei…

Time to pray for both you and the OP…

Remember: since MPED, the SSPX have been, essentially, in the same category as the Polish National Church, the Old Catholics: not part of the church except in their own minds.
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You are wrong on all accounts, so now go out and read and get your facts straight. I am sick to death of the lies perpetrated on this forum.
 
Duke_of_Mantua said:
IPerhaps God rewarded me because I made a junk of money today in the market’s bull run. My parish will get a fat envelope this week, Soprano style.

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Hey, what if you lose it all tomorrow on the market? Will you get your tithe back? Just kidding. Nice going on the Mass and the market.
 
“Good analogy. But I’d say the SSPX is like the son standing on the porch watching his family eat a Thanksgiving turkey that has been improperly cooked. He’s frantically waving at them to not eat it, lest they become gravely ill or even die. But the turkey and trimmings just look too good to that family and they can’t understand why the boy is waving at them so madly.”

Maybe it would be more like the son expecting a traditional turkey and having the rest of the family decide on pizza and beer and calling the kid unfit to be a member.
 
ProVobis said:
Hey, what if you lose it all tomorrow on the market? Will you get your tithe back? Just kidding. Nice going on the Mass and the market.
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I stopped paying for my archdiocese’ pedophilia cases long ago.
 
Uncle_Norbert said:
Because you no longer attend a diocesan RCC, but instead attend a SSPX chapel?
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Nope, I assist at the Traditional Latin Mass in a truly *Roman Catholic Church.
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Even if I was duped enough to continue to assist at a Diocesan Novus Ordo Mass, I wouldn’t give a penny to pay for the sins.
 
"Aramis
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From your article it seems as if the Holy See is using geography to decide who goes to heaven or not. I don’t think I like the article.
In the Austro-Hungarian Empire the Ruthenians are separated from one another by the Carpathian Mountains, which leave one division of them in Galicia and the other in Hungary. The Ruthenians or Little Russians in Russia and Bukowina belong to the Greek Orthodox Church, whilst those of Galicia and Hungary are Greek Catholics in unity with the Holy See.
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piouswoman said:
You are wrong on all accounts, so now go out and read and get your facts straight. I am sick to death of the lies perpetrated on this forum.
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Lady go out and get some manners befitting your moniker.

If you feel he is wrong, make a case for why. Telling someone to “go out and read and get your facts straight” has all the charity of telling someone to quit being an idiot.

If you are sick of the lies you have two options: work to educate and make argument for your thinking, or quit coming around.

Either is preferable to the sort of response you just offered.
 
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