Don't Hate Me. I Am Going To A SSPX This Sunday

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lizaanne said:
Just go to Mass and fulfill your Sunday obligation, receive Jesus, and stop making such a fuss over it. SSPX is a vaid Mass in most cases.

“Refusing to miss a Sunday” – I’m sorry, but you have no option to miss a Sunday. Refusing to attend the Novus Ordo Mass, if it keeps you from fulfilling your Sunday obligation, is a very serious issue you need to get over. It is a valid Mass, whether you like it or not.

I’m not sure what you are looking for here, a pat on the back for going to Mass? 🤷

~Liza
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If the SSPX priest does not have faculties granted to him by the Bishop (and no SSPX priest does) you will not fullfill your Sunday obligations since there are licit Masses available. You would be in mortal sin. It would be like attending an Orthodox Mass when you could attend a Catholic Mass. The Orthodox Mass is valid but is not licit since they do not have faculties granted by the bishiop. If the Church is not listed on the diocese website then it probably would not be OK to attend.
 
It is also well to recall the words of Our Lord:

42 And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me; it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 43 And if thy hand scandalize thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life, maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into unquenchable fire: 44 Where there worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished. 45 And if thy foot scandalize thee, cut it off. It is better for thee to enter lame into life everlasting, than having two feet, to be cast into the hell of unquenchable fire: 46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished. 47 And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out. It is better for thee with one eye to enter into the kingdom of God, than having two eyes to be cast into the hell of fire: 48 Where the worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished.

drb.scripturetext.com/mark/9.htm
 
JReducation said:
Maybe we can all learn from our Holy Father St. Francis of Assisi who wrote in his rule:

“If you meet and angel and the most corrupt and sinful of priests, you must first kiss the hands of the priest, before you greet the angel, for only through him can you receive the Holy Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ and only through him do we have the physical presence of our Lord among us, then greet the angel with proper reverence.”

This was written by the man whom the Church calls The Mirror of Perfection. It takes a great deal of charity, humility and faith to practice this mandate, virtue similar to that of Christ.

JR 🙂
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It is also well to recall the words of Our Lord:

42 And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me; it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 43 And if thy hand scandalize thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life, maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into unquenchable fire: 44 Where there worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished. 45 And if thy foot scandalize thee, cut it off. It is better for thee to enter lame into life everlasting, than having two feet, to be cast into the hell of unquenchable fire: 46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished. 47 And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out. It is better for thee with one eye to enter into the kingdom of God, than having two eyes to be cast into the hell of fire: 48 Where the worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished.

drb.scripturetext.com/mark/9.htm
 
thedavidwilson said:
If the SSPX priest does not have faculties granted to him by the Bishop (and no SSPX priest does) you will not fullfill your Sunday obligations since there are licit Masses available. You would be in mortal sin. It would be like attending an Orthodox Mass when you could attend a Catholic Mass. The Orthodox Mass is valid but is not licit since they do not have faculties granted by the bishiop. If the Church is not listed on the diocese website then it probably would not be OK to attend.
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Msgr. Camille Perl, long-time secretary for the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei (PCED), has repeatedly affirmed in personal letters that such Catholics incur no penalty and no sin for merely fulfilling one’s Sunday obligation at a church or chapel served by the SSPX.
renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410
 
piouswoman said:
Msgr. Camille Perl, long-time secretary for the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei (PCED), has repeatedly affirmed in personal letters that such Catholics incur no penalty and no sin for merely fulfilling one’s Sunday obligation at a church or chapel served by the SSPX.
renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410
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Not “repeatedly.” And he has explained that the one letter he wrote was in response to a very specific and very unique situation; that he was not recommending as a general principle that anybody should attend the SSPX or think that it fulfills one’s Sunday obligation. If there is a licit Mass available, then it does not. (And if there is no licit Mass available, then we have no obligation to attend Mass, in that situation, so there is never a “necessity” to attend the SSPX Mass.)
 
piouswoman said:
Msgr. Camille Perl, long-time secretary for the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei (PCED), has repeatedly affirmed in personal letters that such Catholics incur no penalty and no sin for merely fulfilling one’s Sunday obligation at a church or chapel served by the SSPX.
renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410
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Was that letter addressed to you?

No, didn’t think so.

The documents of the Church on the subject are in force and prohibit associating with the Lefevbrists.
 
Eilish_Maura said:
funny

OP could find some masses (all those that did not fit his schedule) the first go round – so he had the ability to find local EF masses in several areas…🤷 :rolleyes:
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Probably because people tend to know what they’ve heard of and finding them isn’t always as easy if you’re not a savy internet searcher. It would be like me knowing where the Vietnamese Masses in my diocese are. I know where there’s one but I’m sure there’s more (we live in a huge diocese). Now, me being pretty good at googling could probably find more. My mom and dad could not. If the OP was hell bent on going to an SSPX Mass, he would just go.🤷
 
piouswoman said:
Msgr. Camille Perl, long-time secretary for the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei (PCED), has repeatedly affirmed in personal letters that such Catholics incur no penalty and no sin for merely fulfilling one’s Sunday obligation at a church or chapel served by the SSPX.
renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410
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Nice try, PW. That was Prof. Georg’s take on it. Msgr. Perl did not say that everyone could fulfill their Sunday obligation. He said that this person in a specific circumstance could and you really can’t prove the contrary because Msgr. Perl himself said this letter was addressing a certain person in a specific circumstance.
 
bear06 said:
But since we have no proof of that, it might be best to think it a possiblity than to say it is. What’s the point?

Again, Sure came to the rescue. Where there’s a will there’s a way! Sure, maybe you’d want to give Duke all of your links to the EF in the vicinity so he can look them up himself?!
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To make it clear to everyone, I will not go to SSPX if an EF is available. I apologize if I appear ignorant; that is because I am ignorant. I just started going to the TLM and I am now exploring other parishes when my parish doesn’t offer the EF. They offer it Sundays only.

Bear, thanks for sticking up for me. I WOULD appreciate a link of various Masses offered. Some people around here simply hear SSPX and they are ready to cast someone to hell.
 
Duke_of_Mantua said:
To make it clear to everyone, I will not go to SSPX if an EF is available. I apologize if I appear ignorant; that is because I am ignorant. I just started going to the TLM and I am now exploring other parishes when my parish doesn’t offer the EF. They offer it Sundays only.
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Just so you know for the future:

If you can’t find a licit TLM, then you go to an Ordinary Form Mass in its place; not an SSPX mass.
 
Bear, thanks for sticking up for me. I WOULD appreciate a link of various Masses offered. Some people around here simply hear SSPX and they are ready to cast someone to hell.
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No problem. Sure gave this link a page or two ago. It’s amazing how many approved EFs there are out there that people are not familiar with.

I found the info here: web2.iadfw.net/~carlsch/MaterDei/churches.htm
 
jmcrae said:
Just so you know for the future:

If you can’t find a licit TLM, then you go to an Ordinary Form Mass in its place; not an SSPX mass.
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An SSPX Mass fulfills one’s Sunday obligation. Especially when the ordinary mass is of questionable validity, which some most certainly are.
 
laudamus_te said:
An SSPX Mass fulfills one’s Sunday obligation. Especially when the ordinary mass is of questionable validity, which some most certainly are.
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There is no instruction or teaching that says this.

Also, where the original poster lives there are dozens of good ordinary form Masses and dozens of available non-schismatic extraordinary form Masses.
 
Sure said:
There is no instruction or teaching that says this.
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Yes, there is, as has been presented time and again.
Also, where the original poster lives there are dozens of good ordinary form Masses and dozens of available non-schismatic extraordinary form Masses.
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Yes, it’s a veritable smorgasbord!
 
Sure said:
Was that letter addressed to you?

No, didn’t think so.

The documents of the Church on the subject are in force and prohibit associating with the Lefevbrists.
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Wow, even the pope has associated with the “Lefevbrists” (and no, although meant to degrade, that title doesn’t offend me in the least, in truth, I am proud to be called thus and consider it an honor, so keep it up).

Funny how someone from todays “ecumenically minded” church,*** the church of love and charity for all religions*** of which you are espousing, has such hatred for those Traditional Roman Catholics that do nothing more than practice their faith just as their forefathers, the popes, bishops, saints, martyrs, and doctors of the church have for nearly two thousand years. Why such vitriolic language? It is very interesting to me that you and so many others would harbor such contempt for your own faith.

I take umbrage with you modernists (or perhaps you would prefer to be called faux-Catholics) that think that the church began with Vatican II. Let me ask, why are you not in communion with 262 previous popes and the whole of the Catholic Faith?
 
Duke_of_Mantua said:
To make it clear to everyone, I will not go to SSPX if an EF is available. I apologize if I appear ignorant; that is because I am ignorant. I just started going to the TLM and I am now exploring other parishes when my parish doesn’t offer the EF. They offer it Sundays only.

Bear, thanks for sticking up for me. I WOULD appreciate a link of various Masses offered. Some people around here simply hear SSPX and they are ready to cast someone to hell.
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Why do you reject the OF?
 
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