Dr. Anthony Fauci Warns of Bleak Winter: Looking Forward to ‘Christmas in 2021’

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The only power being grabbed is by this virus.
Person A decides to head home for the holiday. Person B is infectious, doesnt know it, passes virus to A. Pick your own point of infection here.
A goes home, spends time with 30 extended family members and gives them all Covid wrapped up in Happy Thanksgiving, Seasons Greetings, Happy Hanukah.
Over 70% die or experience debilitating long term issues. Then there are their contacts before they are diagnosed.

Person C is infectious, is a denier, does his usual out and abouting. Spreads Covid around. Especially all over the turkey section of the store.
Person D, pregnant with her first, picks up turkey and Covid. Ends up in ICU. Loses her baby. Her husband gets Covid and is off work for months. They end up on the street with massive hospital bills they cannot pay.

Write your own Covid adventure here.

Will you catch it? Are you going to test everyone coming through your door? Are you going to not spread it, will you test yourself in case you have it and before you give it to your beloved grandchildren, your priest, your mother, your newborn.

Covid loves denial and distorted twisted myths.
 
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Person E several days ago fell off a swing. Cracked his head open
and his mom and dad are not allowed to come into the hospital to even see him.

(A priest-friend just told me about “Person E” today and asked my prayers for “Person E”, a relative of his.)

Pray for “Person E” because “Person E” gets forgotten in many of the risk-benefit scenarios with NO risk admitted.
 
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Cathoholic said:
Person E several days ago fell off a swing. Cracked his head open
and his mom and dad are not allowed to come into the hospital to even see him.

Pray for “Person E” because “Person E” gets forgotten in many of the risk-benefit scenarios with NO risk admitted.
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Stop going off topic. If person E did not have or come into contact with covid then
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write your own adventure is one of denial and downplaying this.

People all speak this way in denial until they experience the reality of this pandemic.
You will burst out of that cocoon eventually, take off those rose colored glasses eventually.
Speak to jjmm , he or she was in hospital for months on a ventilator and fighting Covid.
 
humilityseeker said:
Over 70% die or experience debilitating long term issues.
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We have many neighbors and now have immediate family members who have had COVID.

We must all be exceedingly fortunate. No 70% death there (or “debilitating long term issues” either).

Everyone did great!

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humilityseeker to me . . .
humilityseeker said:
People all speak this way in denial until they experience the reality of this pandemic.
You will burst out of that cocoon eventually, take off those rose colored glasses eventually.
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humilityseeker said:
Over 70% die or experience debilitating long term issues.
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Covid loves denial and distorted twisted myths.
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Indeed.

Covid-19 is nowhere what you described.
humilityseeker said:
Person C is infectious, is a denier, does his usual out and abouting. Spreads Covid around. Especially all over the turkey section of the store.
Person D, pregnant with her first, picks up turkey and Covid. Ends up in ICU. Loses her baby. Her husband gets Covid and is off work for months. They end up on the street with massive hospital bills they cannot pay.
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Hyperbole, perhaps?

Or is this all distortion?
 
humilityseeker said:
Stop going off topic. If person E did not have or come into contact with covid then
your
write your own adventure is one of denial and downplaying this.
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“Write your own adventure”?

I’m still looking for that disease with 70% fatality or complications rate.
Certainly isn’t covid.
 
I suppose we can cancel all mandatory efforts to control the virus and just sacrifice the hospitals worldwide.

Just make sure there are plenty “mobile mourges”. We’ll need them.
 
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I’m still looking for that disease with 70% fatality or complications rate.
Certainly isn’t covid.
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You are right. It certainly isn’t COVID.

From Anthony Fauci M.D. . . . .
…On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal , Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2…
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Bold mine.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
 
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What is the point of continuing to bring up very outdated advice?
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Because the case fatality rate is essentially the same now using these parameters.

What is outdated about what Dr. Fauci published here?
 
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LeafByNiggle:
What is the point of continuing to bring up very outdated advice?
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Because the case fatality rate is essentially the same now using these parameters.
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That does not make this very outdated advice suddenly relevant. The virus is much more wide spread now.
 
People are surviving because of better treatment and they keep saying over and over the health system is being overwhelmed health care workers are exhausted ICUs are almost full and nobody is listening. If they fill up the death rate will go right back to where it was before because people will not be able to be treated. It was never about the death rate.
 
Cathoholic said:
Person E several days ago fell off a swing. Cracked his head open
and his mom and dad are not allowed to come into the hospital to even see him.

(A priest-friend just told me about “Person E” today and asked my prayers for “Person E”, a relative of his.)

Pray for “Person E” because “Person E” gets forgotten in many of the risk-benefit scenarios with NO risk admitted.
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It is sad, but there are many sad stories in this pandemic. Be glad that Person E has doctors and nurses available to tend to him/her.
Cathoholic said:
We have many neighbors and now have immediate family members who have had COVID.

We must all be exceedingly fortunate. No 70% death there (or “debilitating long term issues” either).

Everyone did great!
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Selective data is not as relevant as comprehensive data, which shows we are in a crisis of deaths. Please, people, support your public health officials and local and state governments on combatting this virus, and don’t make the job of our health care system even worse.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
the case fatality rate does not change the relevance of wearing masks and social distancing
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Complete equivocation of what I said.

I cannot argue with a fallacious argument Leaf.

If you want to go back and make a point about what I said here, I would be happy to discuss it with you.

But a phantom piecing together of some things I said elsewhere, and misapplying them to my point here, I won’t attempt to address.
 
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