Starbucks had a refillable red cup as recent as 2019. As 2020 has been filled with attempts to minimize contacts, you won’t see many red cups. So there will not be as much chest beating and cries of religious persecution over the starbucks cups this year.
This thread is not about you personally, you created it. This thread is about a misconception of yours, one generated reading an interview.
Limited access actually. Our health system is fragile and the main hospital (yes we only have 1) for threatment of illnesses regarding lungs is over taken by Covid patients.
You would not believe how fast people without previous illnesses who are fit and were walking around and were active in society start to die, when they could be saved if the hospitals would not be taken over. Younger people die as well. Even without previous illnesses. We should wear masks and practice distancing and all that we can, not for us, but for the weakest and most especially that hospitals don’t run out of space.
If you really think H1N1 was less virulent than COVID-19, please
Baloney. I couldn’t get in to see my oncologist because the medical center was closed (except for emergencies).
Thanks to the panic. And the stifling of information on how to treat with early intervention these patients.
I am sure we are not from the same country… Otherwise you would not be saying stuff you do now… Far from empty are our hospitals.
We had people with your opinion as well… That is why we are where we are. Notice I said… “We had”. They no longer believe that. For a while they were saying that the numbers are fake… and well, even if they were doesn’t matter, because now we are at the state that we don’t know where to keep bodies before cremation. Who would have thought that it takes all that before they finally shut up with their theories.
OK. Whatever. All I can give personal testimony on is what I saw firsthand.
Their arguments are defunct since the second wave has geared up. Especially citing the Swedish example. As of last week…
That isn’t the Swedish experience which had been touted as the ‘ideal model’. Reported yesterday.
In the list of signatories, I only found 3 epidemiologists, and they were all from outside the US. It is hard to verify the true intentions of an “open letter” on the internet, or even that the signatories all really signed the letter we see there. It gives a false sense of numbers, since the corresponding “open letter” voicing support for restrictions and masks, etc. does not exist. I would classify this as just another attempt by a fringe group to make themselves look more important than they are. It is no wonder the media did not give them that free publicity.
Then show me where the WHO has changed their statement on this please?
The WHO supports the use of lockdowns as an interim measure.Motherwit:
Then show me where the WHO has changed their statement on this please?
As always it will be the vulnerable and least ‘valuable’ in society who’ll bear the brunt of pro covid policies.
The WHO called Sweden a “model” for the world without mandated lockdowns, or mandated social distancing.
And you ignored all of this . . .
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There have been a number of ideas presented in threads here that have shown as not durable in the long term. One that I recall was that rural areas don’t need to take precautions because what was going on was more of a city problem. At the time that idea was being defended here in CAF, in my home state the COVID-19 hotspot was a rural area in which the virus spread quickly after two funerals. Since then rural areas throughout the USA have had their own upsurge in the virus and inundation and stressing of their medical facilities.
The figures are speaking volumes for themselves. The WHO has not commented on Sweden for months as far as I know. But even Sweden has booted it’s anti lockdown champ, Tegnall as they yester day recorded 67 deaths. That’s 67. Your prediction of Sweden “approaching zero” just a few weeks ago was so far from reality do you not think it’s time to concede your position?Motherwit:
The WHO called Sweden a “model” for the world without mandated lockdowns, or mandated social distancing.
We both know that.
So as I said . . .
Then WHY would we lockdown society and ask for survival of the fittest as we destroy economies and lives with panic??
Covid is nothing to play about with. If an expert talks, we should listen. If our listening stops one death, one long term effect of covid, then it is worth it.