Emmanuel Macron wins French presidential election in landslide

[SuperLuigi]

Well, they were invented in America…

 

[Vouthon]

I once got an infraction for agenda posting. All I see from OP is pro-EU anti-nationalism agenda posting. I guess “agenda posting” only applies in some circumstances.

What is agenda posting about the leading article?

Nothing.

Macron won the election, and my thread reflects that. It’s a straight article about his election victory.

Everyone on here knows I’m pro-EU. I wear my heart on my sleeve. No hidden agenda.

I’m entitled to that opinion as well, as are the folks who hate the EU.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Meanwhile the fake news mainstream media painted Le Pen, who is lockstep with Bernie Sanders on economic and social issues, as a “far right extremist”.

Le Pen really wasn’t a great choice. If Trump and Brexit folks took a closer look at her, she has some terrible social policies.

That’s the problem with people not doing their homework and only seeing foreign politics through the prism of foreign relations and sovereignty.

Really, who thinks that we can defeat barbarism by killing ourselves from within?

That’s how many if not most of the major civilizations in the last 8000 years have fallen.

 

[Vouthon]

Le Pen really wasn’t a great choice. If Trump and Brexit folks took a closer look at her, she has some terrible social policies.

That’s the problem with people not doing their homework and only seeing foreign politics through the prism of foreign relations and sovereignty.

Really, who thinks that we can defeat barbarism by killing ourselves from within?

That’s how many if not most of the major civilizations in the last 8000 years have fallen.

I need to give you some serious kudos here Luigi, you’ve been warning other folks here on the American Right about their naivety vis-a-vis the likes of Le Pen and Wilders for a while now.

You saw what direction the wind was blowing with them.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I am no historian, but it seems to me that France has a history, or a tendency, to veer toward extremism. I think of its anti-Semitism under the Vichy regime and, before that, the Dreyfus affair, for example. Maybe, just maybe, France has come to realize that, despite its fierce nationalism bordering on jingoism, when any one group is persecuted, France, as a whole, suffers. I hope THAT day is coming rather than the one you predict.

It would be nice, but it won’t. The biggest threats in France are being ignored. As you know, it’s happened before.

If Marcon pivots and France gets realistic about what is going on, then they will be much better off.

The one thing that will swell nationalism will be if France ignores the problems by immigrants and refugees not assimilating and thinking they can do whatever they want. I think a big step forward would be for police and courts to take this stuff more seriously. It’s not what they are used to, but it needs to be done.

 

[Beautiful]

Well, they were invented in America…

Thinking past tense…French fried.

 

[Seamus_L]

I’ll say it again, Le Pen like Wilders, is just a liberal who recognizes the Islamic threat facing Europe.

 

[JackVk]

I’ll say it again, Le Pen like Wilders, is just a liberal who recognizes the Islamic threat facing Europe.

Which is proof positive that independent thought is not tolerated in the EU. Seems like the US, UK, Poland, Russia, and the Philippines are the only countries that don’t have a deal wish.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I can see it coming now…“well, gee, guys, terrorism is the new normal. deal with it.”

That’s what we are gonna hear if this keeps up.

“Fear always works!” - Mayor Bellwether

 

[SuperLuigi]

I’ll say it again, Le Pen like Wilders, is just a liberal who recognizes the Islamic threat facing Europe.

It would be difficult for LePen or Wilders would be able to win the long game. Just can’t build a society that brushes off or even tramples on the nuclear family.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I don’t understand all the hyperbole. People write as if Macron is a madrassa graduate.

I look back at history. Look around 1913. And 1932. When nationalism rises in Europe, terrible things happen to France. The country still bears the scars of nationalistic fervor from over one hundred years ago.

Yes, nationalism is more problematic in Europe than America. Milo Yiannopolus will also note that. It doesn’t mean the EU is the solution, but I think in France the winning ticket would have been to address the concerns directly with less of the nationalistic dimension.

This does beg the question if more people voted for Marcon just to stop LePen or if they just like Marcon.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I need to give you some serious kudos here Luigi, you’ve been warning other folks here on the American Right about their naivety vis-a-vis the likes of Le Pen and Wilders for a while now.

You saw what direction the wind was blowing with them.

Thank you!

I just try to get it right in the end.

 

[JackVk]

Belgiansput mayo on their fries. Savages.

 

[JackVk]

They’re also “not a real country”, according to Nigel Farage

 

[JackVk]

Meanwhile, I took a gander at 4chan. Fear and loathing on /pol/.

 

[ATraveller]

It will be interesting to see how Emmanuel Macron and En Marche! will do in the parliamentary elections.

 

[Vouthon]

Wow.

Macron is delivering his victory speech.

He walked on stage to the EU anthem - “Ode to Joy” - rather than the French national anthem. The BBC reporter found that fascinating, as do I.

Quite a statement.

They ended the speech with a very stirring rendition of Le Marseillaise.

See:

theguardian.com/world/live/2017/may/07/french-presidential-election-emmanuel-macron-marine-le-pen

**Macron’s victory speech

Emmanuel Macron is about to speak to the cheering crowds on front of the Louvre, to the strains of Beethoven’s Ode to Joy, the European anthem.**

Thank you my friends, he says. Thank you for being here this evening. Thank you for having fought with such courage for so many months because this evening you have won, France has won.

What has been accomplished has no precedent or equivalent, he says. People said it was impossible. Thank you for the efforts, and the risks some people took. I take full measure of the honour.

He says he is aware he has not been given a blank cheque by those who voted for him simply to keep out the extremes. He says he will stand by his engagement to protect France.

He says of those who voted for Le Pen that he understands their fear and their anger and will do all he can to ensure during the next five years that they have no further reason to vote for the extremes.

This evening, he says, it is Europe and the world who are watching us.

Macron says the task facing us is immense, and will start tomorrow. It involves reinforcing France’s economy, building new defences, ensuring the safety of all French citizens. It is a huge job and it will require more of the same audacity that has brought us this far.

This task will require the involvement and commitment of everyone, he says. It will require the courage of truth. It will require the building of a real and strong majority, a majority for change that the country needs and deserves.

We have the strength and the energy. We will not give in to fear, to division, to lies, to a love of decline or defeat. I know what I owe you, to my companions, my family, my friends. It will not be easy. The job wil be difficult.

I will tell you the truth but your fervour and your courage will carry me forward. I want the unity of our people and of our country. And finally, I will serve you with humility, with force, and in the name of our motto: Liberty, equality and fraternity.

I will serve you with love, he says. Vive la République, vive la France.

His wife Brigitte joins him on stage, on the verge of tears, with her children and grandchildren.

 

[JackVk]

Wow.

Macron is delivering his victory speech.

He walked on stage to the EU anthem - “Ode to Joy” - rather than the French national anthem. The BBC reporter found that fascinating, as do I.

Quite a statement.

And that statement is, “I’m more loyal to Brussels bureaucrats, Frau Merkel, and migrants than to my own people. Let those who don’t want their heads chopped off eat cake”.

 

[Vouthon]

And that statement is, “I’m more loyal to Brussels bureaucrats, Frau Merkel, and migrants than to my own people. Let those who don’t want their heads chopped off eat cake”.

No, its a message that patriotism is enhanced by the EU and that one can be a patriot without being pessimistic and inward-looking but instead optimistic and outward-looking.

 

[JackVk]

No, its a message that patriotism is enhanced by the EU and that one can be a patriot without being a nationalist bigot.

You own signature says that the EU demands their member nations to surrender their sovereignty. Macron has vowed sanctions upon Poland for their closed borders- and Poland is the only country in Europe without a terrorist attack in the last several years. That’s not a coincidence.

There’s not going to be a country to be proud of, considering Macron and the EU having an absolute open borders policy.