Eradicating White Supremacy in the Church in America

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we whities are the devil’s spawn. Been hearing it all my life. Everything from AIDS to the temptation at the TOK is the white man’s fault.
 
The definition of white is irrelevant. Each group of people (e.g. Poles, French, white Americans, Swedes, Chinese) has a right to continue existing.

I suppose a good functional definition of white would be “a person who’s ethnic group’s right to exist is denied by mainstream opinion”).
 
Yep. And this nonsense is spread by the supposed opponents of “bigotry”.
 
Going entirely off topic for a minute, that’s a great name for a cardinal (yes, I know the name is Philippine). Reminds me of the local travel agency owned by a Mr. Zabloudil (lit. “Lost-his-way”) or the knife-sharpening shop ran by the family of Mr. Tupý (“Blunt”).
 
Cardinal Jaime Sin from the Philippines.
He is deceased for some years. He was frequently on TV around the time of Popes JPI and JPII and my father would always chuckle at his name. But he was quite impressive in opposing Marcos.

 
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phil19034 said:
The last 3 Popes have not been Italian. One of the reasons most Bishops of Rome have been Italian is because it was much harder to travel once upon a time, and the majority of Cardinals were Italian.
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Pope Francis is Italian.
 
Arkansan said:
There is a lot of racial bigotry, but the overwhelming majority of it is directed against whites (e.g. baselessly claiming that “white supremacy” is rampant, saying that white people honoring their heritage makes them Nazis)

Wishing to preserve their cultural and biological continuation, opposing the destruction of physical symbols of their heritage like statues, etc.
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Personally speaking, my heritage is Irish - not “white.” I haven’t gotten any flack for my Irish pride: in fact, non-Irish people love my heritage so much that they pay tribute to it by getting drunk on March 17th.

Also, I was born in the South, and statues of men who fought for the right to enslave their fellow human beings are not emblematic of my heritage.
 
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Arkansan said:
I suppose a good functional definition of white would be “a person who’s ethnic group’s right to exist is denied by mainstream opinion”).
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I guess the Jews were the only white people involved in the Holocaust then.

What an asinine line of thinking.
 
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Most white Americans are too mixed to identify with any given European ethnicity.
 
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The last 3 Popes have not been Italian. One of the reasons most Bishops of Rome have been Italian is because it was much harder to travel once upon a time, and the majority of Cardinals were Italian.
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Pope Francis is Italian.
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No he isn’t. Pope Francis was born in Buenos Ares. He has Argentine Citizenship. Like many people in Argentina, he’s of Italian decent, but he does not have Italian citizenship (though technically, he’s eligible for it).

His father was an immigrant from Italy, while his mother was born in Buenos Ares to Italian immigrants.

The Pope is technically a 2nd generation Argentine.

So yes, while he has Italian heritage, he was born in Argentina, educated in Argentina, his citizenship is Argentine, etc. The Holy Father is as Italian as my Grandfather was (just like the Pope, my grandfather’s dad was from Italy and mother’s parents / grandparents were all of Italian heritage).
 
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When was their not white supremacy in certain churches in the United States?
 
What does the title of this post say? So any group that falls into the “White Supremacy” group. Don’t act daft about what groups. I even included non-white groups there also. Any group that causes or calls for violence towards a group of people they deem inferior.
 
i’ve NEVER seen the slightest evidence of “white supremacy” in any catholic church i’ve ever attended

neo-nazis worship the “aryan” race (which doesn’t exist in the way these ignoramuses think it does) and are by & large pagans, atheists and/or maladjusted sociopaths
 
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What does the title of this post say? So any group that falls into the “White Supremacy” group.
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Okay. Then the reason the government doesn’t do anything about them is the same reason the government doesn’t do anything about bigfoot or unicorns.
 
brian_custer said:
i’ve NEVER seen the slightest evidence of “white supremacy” in any catholic church i’ve ever attended
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nor have I…

Let’s put it this way: unlike certain Protestant denominations I will not name, I have never seen a Catholic church where there was a “First Catholic Church of Anytown. USA” that had a congregation almost entirely white and a “Second Catholic Church of Anytown, USA” a few blocks away that was almost entirely (and historically) of color.

Catholics haven’t tended to ever join a certain organization known for burning crosses and hating on Catholics just as much as they hated on people of color.

For every individual Catholic person I ever met who talked like the Catholic equivalent of Archie Bunker, I could show you another one that spent every weekend out volunteering to help poor or oppressed people of every color of the rainbow.

Half the Catholic churches nowadays have a priest who has been imported from Africa, the Philippines, or “South of the Border” somewhere because the US isn’t producing enough priests on its own, and the vast majority of these priests from other places would not be considered “white Europeans” if you get my drift.

I could go on, but you get the picture.
 
I’m all against White Supremacy. I think it is a blight on the earth. And I think one would have to be a jerk to ascribe to it. But we don’t need to silence them with the government or anti-free speech laws. We need to create a better culture to discuss the problem with those supremacists.

As Voltaire once said, “I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It.”

Racial supremacy of any kind is stupid but they have free speech.
 
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Arkansan said:
Most white Americans are too mixed to identify with any given European ethnicity.
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Most white people have a basic idea of what their ethnic background is. The nice thing about being mixed is that you can identify with multiple cultures. I primarily identify as Irish because most of my ancestors came from Ireland, but I don’t shy away from my German heritage either.
 
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Okay. Then the reason the government doesn’t do anything about them is the same reason the government doesn’t do anything about bigfoot or unicorns.
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Have you ever asked a black person about this? I’m guessing not.
 
Children of immigrants tend to identify heavily with their parents’ native country/culture. He was born in Argentina, but his background was likely influenced greatly by Italian culture.
 
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