Evolution and Darwin against Religion and God

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PhiriTalk said:
I never said that evolution doesn’t happen. You’re the one who keeps saying evolution isn’t happening, not me.
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Maybe you missed it. I have never ever denied adaptation (micro-evolution) happens. I have yet to see empirical evidence that is observable, repeatable and predictable evidence of macro-evolution. I will maintain my position until I see it.
 
It appears an ideology drives you. No one needs my permission to post anything.
 
Nowhere does the Church say that science can’t provide a full and complete answer.

Why is now considered okay to be anti-science?
 
My Catholic ideology most certainly does drive me. I never said it didn’t.

It seems that your anti-science agenda drives you.
 
PhiriTalk said:
You literally said that it’s okay to be anti-science, anti-intellectual and anti-evolution. Why is that okay, but it’s not okay for me to be pro-science, pro-intellectual and pro-evolution?
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Do you see how you are casting aspersions? Anyone who wants more proof for the claim is automatically anti-science and anti-intellectual? So the scientists who are actually doing the work and presenting the results are anti-science and anti-intellectual too? Nonsense.

In your view anyone who challenges evolution (even scientists themselves) are anti-science.
 
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“micro” and “macro” evolution are literally the same thing. #facepalm

Just because you want them to be different, doesn’t mean that they are.

A five second google search show all kinds of evidence for evolution. And from numerous reputable sources. Learning isn’t hard. It’s okay to be smart.
 
Where are your documents to support this?

From Communion and Stewardship

“In continuity with previous twentieth century papal teaching on evolution (especially Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani Generis ), the Holy Father’s message acknowledges that there are “several theories of evolution” that are “materialist, reductionist and spiritualist” and thus incompatible with the Catholic faith. It follows that the message of Pope John Paul II cannot be read as a blanket approbation of all theories of evolution, including those of a neo-Darwinian provenance which explicitly deny to divine providence any truly causal role in the development of life in the universe.”

Science can’t include God. The Church can.
 
PhiriTalk said:
A five second google search show all kinds of evidence for evolution. And from numerous reputable sources. Learning isn’t hard. It’s okay to be smart.
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I asked many posts ago for the top 5 empirical proofs for macro evolution. You failed to respond.
 
Anyone who thinks that evolution isn’t happening and thinks that intelligent design is happening is by definition anti-science, anti-intellectual and anti-evolution.

Which scientists are promoting intelligent design? The ones being paid by the Discovery Institute?

If you think that evolution isn’t happening, then you literally are, by definition, anti-science. Why is that a difficult concept?

Also, why won’t you say how old you think the universe is?
 
I literally posted evidence though. You just straight up ignored it.

I’m 100% sure that you don’t actually know what evolution is.
 
So you’re saying that I should just discount all science? How do you think the computer you’re using works? How do you think the internet works?

Should I discount gravity too?
 
Please don’t threaten me. It’s not against the rules of this forum to be in favor science or to point out instances of anti-science views.

The Catholic Church does not deny science.
 
PhiriTalk said:
Which scientists are promoting intelligent design? The ones being paid by the Discovery Institute?
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Do you think the presenters at the Royal Society work for the DI? More evidence you pretty much ignored the Royal Society proceedings because you are afraid they may shatter your paradigm.

It is not relevant to this thread. If you want to create another thread,
do so. This is a classic approach used to try and discredit the poster and ignore the substance of the actual argument made.
 
Silly. If I reject evolution - not all science, you know what happens? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Biologists will go to work - brainwashed and not - and solve real-world problems not by using evolution but with the tools they have right now and which are improving right now. Evolution has no use or meaning. It is an ideology.
 
PhiriTalk said:
The Catholic Church does not deny science.
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Do you agree with this Pope?

Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Pope John Paul II
 
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I’m not threatening you. Stick with arguing the posts made to benefit you and others and quit slamming the poster(s).
 
I don’t know who the presenters at the Royal Society are. The Royal Society explicitly rejects intelligent design. I find it hilarious that you keep trying to characterize them as being pro-intelligent design.

Why are you so afraid to say how old you think the universe is?

I accept the current scientific estimate of the age of the universe. See it’s that’s simple. No reason to hide anything.
 
Why reject only parts of science though? Do you get to decide which parts of science are real and which aren’t? Do you get to tell God what to think?

You think biologists are brainwashed? Brainwashed by whom?

Biologists use the predictions made by the theory of evolution literally all the time in their work.

I don’t think you know what evolution is.
 
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