Far right spreading false rumors blaming antifa for forest fires

[Balto1]

That is exactly what an Antifa member would tell you. Of course they are not handing out membership cards, that is just bad opsec. I have been involved in informal board gaming groups that had members coming and going with a regular group of diehards and a more or less acknowledged leader.

I’m sure the antifa supersoldiers organize themselves like your board game group lol

 

[Nepperhan]

Fear of looters is not a conservative characteristic.

I think hoaxing and fear-mongering are increasingly being used by conservatives.

Nonsense. The looter/arsonist/protesters in the cities have intended to harm and even kill people and some have succeeded.

Now, how exactly do you know that? With the vast majority of protests not being violent and not involving any type of arson. Looting is not protesting so it is inaccurate for you to link them up. How many looters also were arsonists? I have not seen much of that, if at all. An I do live in the city.

Failure of some law enforcement agencies to attribute some of the fires to radical organizations are unpersuasive.

I’m sure your biased suspicions trump their professional knowledge and experience.

There are reports of ANTIFA or related group fire starters.

Man! You give credit to the hoaxers.

 

[Nepperhan]

Can you? Silly question, you do it about Trump and his supporters all the time.

Trump and his supporters state their motives. Did the fellow in Puyallup state his? I think not.

 

[Nepperhan]

Could be any number of groups behind it, and people acting alone as well. Also natural forces. Haven’t heard about Proud Boys though. Got a citation on that?

"Video has emerged showing a speaker at a rally in Salem, Oregon, urging that democratic leaders be “shot dead in the streets” for pushing a so-called “pedophile agenda” and being greeted with cheers and applause from the crowd. The man, who has not been identified, is seen speaking at the Labor Day rally which was attended by supporters of President Donald Trump, members of far-right groups Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys, as well as believers of the QAnon conspiracy theory.During the clip, which has been viewed more than 300,000 times on Twitter, the man is seen hitting out at those who called people “crazy” and “homophobic” for speaking out against what he referred to as the “LGBT agenda.”

https://www.newsweek.com/salem-prote…s-shot-1530230

But I have never thought Antifa to be anything more than a relatively small group of radicals loosely connected to some in the Democrat party, but not all.

The folks you describe have no connection to the Democratic party (Why can’t you spell it correctly?) except in your suspicions.

 

[WingedHussar]

I’m sure the antifa supersoldiers organize themselves like your board game group lol

Seeing as a single teenager with no tactical training was able to neutralize an Antifa pedophile, an Antifa burglar-turned war criminal, and an Antifa-woman beater, they are probably less organized than my board game boys lol.

Conservatives steeped in their weird media sphere think it’s funny because they’re calling them democRATS. That’s the level of intellect you’re dealing with.

Wrong, I would not think of insulting God’s creatures by comparing them to cultural Marxists.

 

[Cathoholic]

Regular_Atheist on ANTIFA . . .

There is no official membership list or anything, because it isn’t an organisation.

Well I guess that clears it up then. (That is definitely the line.)

For everybody else:

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DHS Has ‘Overwhelming’ Intel That Portland Violence ‘Organized’ By ‘Violent Antifa Anarchists,’ Leaked Email Says​

By Ryan Saavedra

Sep 14, 2020 DailyWire.com

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A leaked email from a former top official at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) says that the department has “overwhelming intelligence” that the extremist violence in Portland was “organized” by individuals with an ideology categorized as “Violent Antifa Anarchist Inspired” (VAAI).

CBS News reporter Catherine Herridge tweeted out a letter that she obtained that was written by Brian Murphy, former Acting Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis at DHS, that said in July that the violence in Portland had reached a level that officials could no longer state that the violence was “opportunistic” but that it was “organized.”

Murphy stated in the email that the individuals who were attacking the federal facilities in the city did so “based on those ideologies.”

“We have overwhelming intelligence regarding the ideologies driving individuals towards violence and why the violence has continued,” Murphy continued. “A core set of threat actors are organized, show up night after night, share common TTPs [tactics, techniques and procedures] and drawing on like minded individuals to their cause.” . . .

. . . . During a Fox News interview late last month, DHS Secretary Chad Wolf said that federal authorities were “targeting and reviewing” the heads of Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and those who fund them.

“Department of Justice is also targeting and investigating the head of these organizations . . . .

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dhs-has-overwhelming-intel-that-portland-violence-organized-by-violent-antifa-anarchists-leaked-email-says

 

[toabb]

righties have killed federal agents, tried to blow up federal installations and buildings, all this summer. perhaps it’s them behind the fires. since so much of it has burned federal land…

 

[Cathoholic]

Here ya go Regular_Atheist! Christopher Wray at least in part concurring with you!

(I see it as both an ideology AND still see it as an organization . . . but admittedly that is just my opinion.)

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FBI Chief: ‘Antifa a Real Thing,’ But It’s an Ideology or Movement, Not an Organization​

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EDWIN MORA

18 Sep 2020

The FBI is conducting “quite a number” of “domestic terrorism investigations” targeting “violent anarchists” inspired by the Antifa ideology, the agency’s director Christopher Wray told a House panel on Thursday.

“Antifa is a real thing,” Wray told the House Homeland Security Committee, but he stressed that it is an ideology, not a specific organization.

The FBI chief told lawmakers:

We look at Antifa as more of an ideology or a movement than an organization. To be clear, we do have quite a number of properly predicated domestic terrorism investigations into violent anarchist extremists, any number of whom self identify with the Antifa movement. And that’s part of this broader group of domestic violent extremists that I’m talking about, but it’s just one part of it. . . . .

FBI Conducting Domestic Terror Probes Into Antifa-Linked Anarchists

The FBI director said the agency is conducting "domestic terrorism" probes targeting "violent anarchists" inspired by the Antifa ideology.

www.breitbart.com

Again:

It is the IDEAS that these leftists instill in their fellow leftists.

It is the same PRINCIPLES of self-destructive thought and envy.

Call it whatever you want, but the article is correct.

And this self-destructive, violent, authoritarian, anti-discussion-of-ideas ideology is not limited to ANTIFA of course.