Federal Police "Invade" Portland

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JapaneseKappa said:
Anyone who believes Jesus is God and said “the poor will always be with you”? It’s pretty clear from the post?
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It would be hard to eliminate poverty entirely, and I think Jesus knowing human nature as He does was aware of this.

This does not mean we shouldn’t do anything to help the poor.

What is needed is a spiritual revolution not a political one.
 
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All of us? How broad is your brush actually?
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Anyone who believes Jesus is God and said “the poor will always be with you”? It’s pretty clear from the post?
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Is that your interpretation, or mine?
Why would you think all Christians would interpret this to mean God doesn’t want us to help the poor, when Christ clearly commands that we help the least of His children?
 
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Why would you think all Christians would interpret this to mean God doesn’t want us to help the poor, when Christ clearly commands that we help the least of His children?
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This does not mean we shouldn’t do anything to help the poor.
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I explained it very clearly in that thread. My point was not that Christians would oppose charity, quite the opposite. My point was that they are so married to the concept of charitably helping the poor that rendering it unnecessary (i.e. by eliminating poverty) seems sinful to them.
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Tangible ways a nonbeliver can not help as much as a believer Philosophy
But giving to charity is not the same as eliminating poverty. Most religious people give money to their church to keep the ship afloat as well as to help with things like feeding the hungry or clothing the naked. Those are perfectly fine reasons to donate money, but there is no magic number of soup kitchens which, once reached, will have eliminated poverty. People donate to treat the symptoms of poverty, because the causes require things money can’t buy, like societal reform. Religion could…
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The Church and Christians do more for the poor than just give money, they provide schools and a good education, otherwise inaccessible to poor children, healthcare, pregnancy crisis centers and other services to help those who are in most need. . .etc.

Social services which you now think ONLY the government can provide.

As I said a spiritual not a political revolution is needed, that is, until people start viewing their fellow man like Jesus intended then you will always fall far from the mark of attaining your goals of eliminating injustices.
 
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The Church has probably fed thousands of impoverished a day for centuries.
 
I don’t always agree with your posts, but you do have consistent principles, and that is commendable.
 
JapaneseKappa said:
I explained it very clearly in that thread. My point was not that Christians would oppose charity, quite the opposite. My point was that they are so married to the concept of charitably helping the poor that rendering it unnecessary (i.e. by eliminating poverty) seems sinful to them.
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To whom? To which Christians? What writings if Christians do you point to to confirm your accusation?
 
Fascism is simply a local form of socialism which redraws the lines around different identity politics.

Both are authoritarian statists, anti democratic, anti Christian, claiming victimhood and the redistribution of income for the greater communal good.

Both have shown themselves to create a repressive political elitist class that is unquestionably evil. It matters very little whether the socialist ideology is local or internationalist.

If these insurrectionists break the law and use violence to intimidate politics then I say lock them all up and don’t hesitate to reject the manufactured claims of victimhood.

People have been literally getting away with murder. This is not a time for cowardice.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/20/mark-hertling-police-portland/

One thing is clear to me: They are neither civilian security forces nor military personnel as we know them in our society. These camouflaged and heavily armed agents execute some provisions of martial law while conducting law enforcement without the request or approval of local elected officials — operating in a risky and ill-defined no man’s land between traditional police roles and those of soldiers activated for specific missions associated with the suspension of legal norms. Straddling that boundary has the potential for serious and even dangerous repercussions.

Myriad studies have shown interesting results: For example, some research shows citizens adjust behaviors when someone wearing a police uniform is nearby; others show that police uniforms are most likely to “induce feelings of safety” when compared to other uniforms or civilian clothes, and those wearing a blue uniform receive a high rate of cooperation when asked to perform a task. Wearing camouflage uniforms, our division MP commander said, would send the wrong message, especially in a society where neither the U.S. nor the Iraqi military was yet trusted by the population.
 
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www.nytimes.com

Federal Officers Deployed in Portland Didn’t Have Proper Training, D.H.S. Memo Said (Published 2020)

Rather than tamping down persistent protests in Portland, Ore., a militarized presence from federal officers seems to have re-energized them.
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PORTLAND, Ore. — The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message, dated Thursday, was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of homeland security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump’s guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: “Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies.”
 
It’s interesting watching them experiment with new tactics, it’s like watching all the trial and error in the Hong Kong protests. Also big shout out to the hockey stick guy, his gas canister slapshots were pretty much perfect by the end of last night.
 
The cops are using outdated tactics and fighting with one hand tied behind their back. Breaking up those riots and winning the propaganda war can done easily. It just requires new methods.
 
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Unfortunately, this is for Portland to resolve, and they don’t seem to have the resolve to do it.
 
In which case, higher levels of government with the willpower and resources have the right and duty to intervene.
 
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