Feminism is infiltrating every aspect of society

[JSmitty2005]

Is there anyone on this thread that disagrees with the following statement?:

IF a woman is a wife and mother, then her primary duty should be that of a wife and mother.

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

I don’t see how pointing out that not everyone thinks I am foolish shows a lack of humility. And I never said, anyone appreciates my outrageousness.

Well, it was implied in this statement: “I am really glad to be able to say some of the things that others are often too afraid to say on CAF.”

I am sure you don’t understand what was so outrageous about what yyou said and therefore, don’t understand why I felt the need to ridicule.

Is there ever a “need to ridicule”?

That’s okay. I accomplished the purpose I had in doing it.

And what was your purpose?

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

It isnt’ really “okay” for anyone to be rude, but men have more of a tendency of doing it.

Tendency is not destinity. Gender works in distribution not fixed and immovable categories.

More importantly, you ignore the impact of socialization. Where I grew up, I heard nice girls don’t do this and that my whole life… So, that’s how nice girls behaved. When I taught in NY, where parents don’t raise their young women any differently than their sons, I found that the girls were MORE rude than the boys.

I am not not saying that this was good. It’s not a sign of feminist success. However, it is anectodal evidence that certain feminine behaviors are cultivated by society.

This is not to say that all feminine behavior is cultivated by society. I am NOT claiming that all gendered differences are a social construct. However, it is often difficult to tease out the social from the biological.

Kendy

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

Is there anyone on this thread that disagrees with the following statement?:

IF a woman is a wife and mother, then her primary duty should be that of a wife and mother.

Is there anyone on this thread who disagress with the following statement?

If a man is a husband and father, then his primary duty should be that of a husband and father. (To clarify, I mean, is it okay for dad to sacrifice loving his wife and getting to know his children so he can climb the corporate ladder.)

Kendy

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

Is there anyone on this thread who disagress with the following statement?

If a man is a husband and father, then his primary duty should be that of a husband and father. (To clarify, I mean, is it okay for dad to sacrifice loving his wife and getting to know his children so he can climb the corporate ladder.)

Kendy

Is there anyone on this thread that disagrees with the following statement?:

IF a woman is a wife and mother, then her primary duty should be that of a wife and mother.

 

[brandy101]

JSmitty - here’s perhaps an addition to your statement about wife & mother (and Kendy’s re: hubby & father) that I think we all can agree on:

FIRST duty for every Christian is to be a loving, healthful, helpful Child of God.

Human relationships and duties follow from there.

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

Well, it was implied in this statement: “I am really glad to be able to say some of the things that others are often too afraid to say on CAF.”

Most of the people who participate in these dialogues that have a particular point of view about many issues and sometimes, other people don’t want to participate because they feel like the odd one.

JSmitty2005:

Is there ever a “need to ridicule”?

If the thing that you are ridiculing is ridiculous. I thought your comment was ridiculous.

JSmitty2005:

And what was your purpose?

My purpose was as I said earlier to be a voice for any woman who may find some of your views offensive. I didn’t want it to go unsaid, that that’s ridiculous.

I said it it and there was at least one woman who appreciated it.

Kendy

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

Is there anyone on this thread that disagrees with the following statement?:

IF a woman is a wife and mother, then her primary duty should be that of a wife and mother.

No, JSmitty I don’t. I just don’t happen to believe that it must be her ONLY duty. Now, will you answer my question?

Kendy

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

My purpose was as I said earlier to be a voice for any woman who may find some of your views offensive. I didn’t want it to go unsaid, that that’s ridiculous.

Glad to hear you’re the self-appointed spokeswoman for women on this forum. What exactly could be found offensive about what I’ve said?

 

[Kendy]

No, JSmitty I don’t disagree. I just don’t happen to believe that it must be her ONLY duty. Now, will you answer my question?

Kendy

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

Is there anyone on this thread who disagress with the following statement?

If a man is a husband and father, then his primary duty should be that of a husband and father. (To clarify, I mean, is it okay for dad to sacrifice loving his wife and getting to know his children so he can climb the corporate ladder.)

Kendy

Being a husband and father does not mean to sacrfice loving his wife and/or kids to climb the corporate ladder. It would not be right for a man or a woman to do such a thing…which brings me back to one of my original points. Men had given in to the idea that people are fulfilled by their work long before women did. Misguided workaholic men are the root of feminism. And I believe that this misguidance is a result of rampant capitalism. Work, work, work…

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

Glad to hear you’re the self-appointed spokeswoman for women on this forum. What exactly could be found offensive about what I’ve said?

I have no such aspirations. Most of the women on this forum disagree with me. Like I said, I only want to be a voice to those who have echoed Sojourner Truth in saying, “But aren’t I a woman?”

As for what you said. You blame sexual harassment of promiscuity. First, it offensive to anyone who has suffered from undesired sexual advances by blaming her for her victimization. It unfairly malignes those who have worked for women’s rights (like equal pay). And it dimishes the culpability of the offender.

I naively believed we had moved from the “she was asking for it” days, but I guess those were the good ole days.

Kendy

 

[mikew262]

Gerrygarvin:

well i look at it this way. Jsmitty is 20 years old and in college. As such, convincing him that he might be mistaken about anything is a lost cause. It’s better to just enjoy a good ribbing, and save the use of reason and rational arguement for a few years down the line.

Actually, I think he is just 19. When I was 19, I knew it all and couldn’t be told any different either.

However, I think he is an intelligent guy. He just lacks “life” experience.

 

[Kendy]

JSmitty2005:

Being a husband and father does not mean to sacrfice loving his wife and/or kids to climb the corporate ladder. It would not be right for a man or a woman to do such a thing…which brings me back to one of my original points. Men had given in to the idea that people are fulfilled by their work long before women did. Misguided workaholic men are the root of feminism. And I believe that this misguidance is a result of rampant capitalism. Work, work, work…

Stop the press!!!

JSmitty and I agree on something.

Kendy

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

As for what you said. You blame sexual harassment of promiscuity. First, it offensive to anyone who has suffered from undesired sexual advances by blaming her for her victimization. It unfairly malignes those who have worked for women’s rights (like equal pay). And it dimishes the culpability of the offender.

No…I don’t think that I’ve blamed sexual abuse/harrassment/rape on increased promiscuity as a result of the feminist agenda. I have, however, said that I believe that sexual abuse/harrassment/rape have increased in incidents as a result of the increased promiscuity promoted by the feminist agenda. As I’ve said before (I think this is my thrice time), I’m all for equal pay. And, no, I do not believe that my position in any way diminishes the culpability of the offender.

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kendy:

Stop the press!!!

JSmitty and I agree on something.

Kendy

YAY!!! :dancing: :clapping: :bounce:

 

[TarAshly]

JSmitty2005:

. But if it were, there is no reason why a woman shouldn’t stay home if she had children.

perhaps because she has a brain and talent and skill and wants to put it to good use. My mom was a great mom, wife and court reporter! and I will make a great mom and teacher AT THE SAME TIME! and I already am a great wife! and an honor roll student!Women are good for so much more than just having babies, and the fact that so many women can have beautiful, well rounded children and hold down successfull careers gives validity to that. There are lots of books that suggest Doctors are bad for you…but they aren’t always right. Smitty, better make sure that that is really how your girlfriend feels and shes not just saying that to please you and your wishes for a what a wife should be.

 

[JSmitty2005]

TarAshly:

Smitty, better make sure that that is really how your girlfriend feels and shes not just saying that to please you and your wishes for a what a wife should be.

I assure you. Ask her yourself. Her screenname on here is phantomsilver. You may also want to check out my essay on feminism that I linked to a while ago. There’s a quote of her’s at the very bottom. By the way, if you read the essay, it will surely tick you off. But I ask you to cool down after that and read it a second time to see that I’m not a misogynist. At least that’s what my prof had to do to realize that I’m all for women’s equality but opposed to a conflation of the sexes as well as all the other evils that the feminists promote (contraception, abortion, homosexuality, etc.)

 

[JMJ_Theresa]

TarAshly:

perhaps because she has a brain and talent and skill and wants to put it to good use. My mom was a great mom, wife and court reporter! and I will make a great mom and teacher AT THE SAME TIME! and I already am a great wife! and an honor roll student!Women are good for so much more than just having babies, and the fact that so many women can have beautiful, well rounded children and hold down successfull careers gives validity to that. There are lots of books that suggest Doctors are bad for you…but they aren’t always right. Smitty, better make sure that that is really how your girlfriend feels and shes not just saying that to please you and your wishes for a what a wife should be.

hey!!! I vehemently disagree that rearing your children is not putting your brain and skills and talent to good use!!

 

[JSmitty2005]

TarAshly:

Women are good for so much more than just having babies, and the fact that so many women can have beautiful, well rounded children and hold down successfull careers gives validity to that.

I’d read the 7 Myths of Working Mothers if I were you…along with the other two I’ve suggested: Women Who Make the World Worse and The Privilege of Being a Woman.