Feminism is infiltrating every aspect of society

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I just wanted to share Proverbs 31:

**Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

She will do him good and no evil all the days of her life.

She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

She is like the merchants’ ship; she bringeth her food from afar.

She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a
portion to her maidens.

She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are
clothed with scarlet.

She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to coem.

She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.**

I have found that this “ideal woman” had at least four other jobs outside of being a wife and mother. She was a real estate investor, a farmer, a merchant, and a seamstress.

In fact, one of the things I learned last year about orthodox jews is that is very common for women to work. Often the women run and operate the family business while the husband studies Torah. So, it seems that there is a long tradition of female employment within our faith.

Kendy
 
oh I LOOOOOOOOVE that Proverbs passage. Its so incredibly affirming!

One of my faves; thanks for sharing, Kendy.
 
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brandy101:
Believe me, as much I love my daughter and family, I KNOW that “motherhood” was not my “vocation” or “calling” or “discernment.” For some people it IS, and that is GREAT.

I wasn’t really happy about having a baby until I was actually pregnant - then my “Mama bear” instincts kicked in (thank God!) and I threw myself into learning how to be the best mom I could be. Sometimes I have to re-read my pregnancy journal to recall how “into” being a mom I was.

But making the adjustment from $ earner to staying home was really HARD - especially since my husband was pretty much jealous of me not being in the Rat Race anymore. But over time we’ve worked things out. The bottome line is its a private decision between a husband and wife how they manage their family.

Orion’s post reminds me alot of how our family chores/duties are divvied up, except in our case, hubby’s “cooking” would be takeout chinese or burritos instead of chili! 😉
I need to admit (confession time) that many of the hamburgers were from Burger King and the Pizzas were from Dominoes but the Chili is mine (a little hamburger, sausage, and sometimes pheasant mixed in w/ alot of peppers including jalapeno). My oldest daughter (married, works only part-time!! and w/ two of the most beautiful kids in the world) has a code to her hubby of “Dad (meaning me) is cooking tonight” and it means “make your own leftovers tonight.”
 
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Orionthehunter:
I need to admit (confession time) that many of the hamburgers were from Burger King and the Pizzas were from Dominoes but the Chili is mine (a little hamburger, sausage, and sometimes pheasant mixed in w/ alot of peppers including jalapeno). My oldest daughter (married, works only part-time!! and w/ two of the most beautiful kids in the world) has a code to her hubby of “Dad (meaning me) is cooking tonight” and it means “make your own leftovers tonight.”
Pheasant? Oh yeah, I get it, you being “Orion, the hunter” and all…but I find Pheasant to be quite dry - does the sausage add enough fat? I can imagine ground venison being awesome in chili…

Seriously, though, thanks for sharing and adding some much-needed levity 🙂
 
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TarAshly:
I can think of a few…

teachers
soldiers
firemen
policemen
priests
nuns
all clergy
social workers
etc…

Stay At Home Moms are no more special than working moms, its just another profession or career path that some women are privelidged enough financially to experiance, others have to work to survive.
Sure is hot in here. Oh well, I do reserve the right to post and flee.😉
Stay at home moms take on all of the above roles, and many many more. And they take it on with more love - it being to serve their very own children rather than to satisfy a stupid manager. Must be for love since they don’t draw a paycheck - to make do with less, but make up for it by giving the gift of time.
But, on the other hand, don’t you envy them, at the end of life they look back how they spent most of it near their loved ones. 😛
 
As a teacher I will look back at my life and see how many lives I touched and how many students I helped. As a mother I will look back and now my kids had the best of what I could provide them and secure their futures. And as a wife I will know I pulled my weight and did not leave all of the financial burden on him to take care. I was his partner and my childrens provider. so no I dont envy them. and though I will draw a paycheck, I will be doing it ALL OUT OF LOVE, because that paycheck will clothe, feed, shelter and educate my children. My daughters will know that they can be anything in the world they want to be, that wifehood and motherhood are not the only limitations in their lives and my sons will learn to respect women. so no, I will have spent my life serving my husband, my children and the children of others and contributing to my household and society.
Lost&Found:
Sure is hot in here. Oh well, I do reserve the right to post and flee.😉
Stay at home moms take on all of the above roles, and many many more. And they take it on with more love - it being to serve their very own children rather than to satisfy a stupid manager. Must be for love since they don’t draw a paycheck - to make do with less, but make up for it by giving the gift of time.
But, on the other hand, don’t you envy them, at the end of life they look back how they spent most of it near their loved ones. 😛
 
It’s not one-size fits all, people.

No one has talked about stay at home dads. They are not in majority, but they are out there.

Kendy
 
You forgot to address the part about the gift of time not being as valuable as the gift of extra material stuff - other than that, very thorough responses. 😛
 
it has nothing to do with material things. A college education is not a material thing, a stable home and financial security are not material things, these are things that protect and provide for children.
 
I wonder what the children would say? I know mine love it that I’m always here for them… I never left them in the care of others when they were babies and they wanted their Mom more than anyone else. I’m here when they get home from school. I don’t have to worry about pleasing a boss… my husband & my children are my top priority and they don’t EVER complete for my energy / time.

This is not true of all families who have 2 parents who work full time… but I think in general, the children of those families are the ones who suffer because they aren’t given enough attention. A big house - material possessions - their college education paid for can’t complete with the love they need from a parent who isn’t stressed out & pulled in different directions.

That is my opinion - of which I’m entitled.
 
I really wish we would end the mommy wars. We simply don’t know what is the best arrangement for any woman in her children.

Of course, I would rather provide a college education for my three children than be at home with six of them. But that maybe, that’s what God calls someone else to do. Or maybe, that’s what he calls me to do.

The problem is that we have decided to judge other women on things we cannot know about.

Kendy
 
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Kendy:
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Of course, I would rather provide a college education for my three children than be at home with six of them. But that maybe, that’s what God calls someone else to do. Or maybe, that’s what he calls me to do.

Kendy
I don’t want to get into some big nasty exchange… I don’t know you or your situation so please don’t take this personally.

I’m just thinking back to when I only had three children and I’m trying to imagine wanting to have money for their college education, rathen than wanting to bring their little brother & sister into the world.
I honestly can’t relate. I would take the children over all the money in the bank no question. The joy our family gets from each new life - I KNOW my children would say is worth more than any amount of money.
 
carol marie:
I don’t want to get into some big nasty exchange… I don’t know you or your situation so please don’t take this personally.

I’m just thinking back to when I only had three children and I’m trying to imagine wanting to have money for their college education, rathen than wanting to bring their little brother & sister into the world.
I honestly can’t relate. I would take the children over all the money in the bank no question. The joy our family gets from each new life - I KNOW my children would say is worth more than any amount of money.
I am not offended. You have spoken what’s true for you. It’s not true for me.

I don’t resent my parents, but it would have been nice to not graduate with all these colleges and that’s something I want to provide for my children.

Of course, the situation in my family is different in that my mother had only three of us and so our financial situation was not due to her having a large family. But my parents are very happy with size of our family. It’s like after my brother was born, they know this was our family. and I don’t remember ever wishing I had a another brother and a sister.

As for my mom working, I think I posted earlier. I was happy that my mother went back to work. She was a smotherer:). It’s not like working moms have forgetten what’s it was like to be a child. I guess, if I wished I had spent more time with my mom I might feel differently. But I didn’t need to be with my mother 24/7. I was quite happy being watched by other people

Kendy
 
carol marie:
I don’t want to get into some big nasty exchange… I don’t know you or your situation so please don’t take this personally.

I’m just thinking back to when I only had three children and I’m trying to imagine wanting to have money for their college education, rathen than wanting to bring their little brother & sister into the world.
I honestly can’t relate. I would take the children over all the money in the bank no question. The joy our family gets from each new life - I KNOW my children would say is worth more than any amount of money.
Also, I honestly can’t relate either. I don’t want to have six children. It’s not even about the money. If I had millions in the bank, I still would not want six children.

It doesn’t bother me that you want six children. It only bothers when someone says, I need to want six children.

Kendy
 
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What’s the matter JSmiity? Does it sound too relativistic for you? Don’t you think somethings should be left to individual families? Or have you written a detailed manual on how we should govern every aspect of our lives?

Kendy

P.S. And don’t say a bible or catechism cause I already have those :).
 
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Kendy:
Also, I honestly can’t relate either. I don’t want to have six children. It’s not even about the money. If I had millions in the bank, I still would not want six children.

It doesn’t bother me that you want six children. It only bothers when someone says, I need to want six children.

Kendy
I’m pretty sure that this kind of thinking is opposed to Church teaching. The primary purpose of marriage is to have children. If you’re saying that even if you could have more children that you wouldn’t, then this is not Catholic teaching.
 
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TarAshly:
AGREED ORION! Thank you for clarifying. JSMITTY, until you actually ARE married and actually have to PROVIDE for a family and pay bills and put food on the table dont criticize what you dont know. Its very easy to sit back and dictate other peoples lives when you have yet to have a wife to provide for or children to feed and clothe.
Yep!!
 
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JSmitty2005:
I’m pretty sure that this kind of thinking is opposed to Church teaching. The primary purpose of marriage is to have children. If you’re saying that even if you could have more children that you wouldn’t, then this is not Catholic teaching.
That didn’t seem obvious to me from reading the catechism or from any of the priest I have spoken to. One of the things I was most afraid of when I decided to revert was that I was required to have as many children I as I can feed.

It doesn’t seem me that that is how catholics here and elsewhere live. In fact, I don’t know any catholics who have more than three kids. Certainly, they exist, but they are rare enough that there is not a single one in my parish.

It seems to me that there is plenty of room for families to decide how large their families will be. Of course, they should do this prayerful, but there’s no mandate to give birth to as many children as you can feed.

Kendy
 
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