Finally, An Answer To Why So Many People Voted For Trump

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Annie said:
It must be nice living surrounded by people who believe exactly as you do, bit for the rest of us who don’t live in the government-funded land of “inside the Beltway,” we have to deal with these things.
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I highly doubt you’ve been ‘victimized’ by the left.
 
Annie said:
It must be nice living surrounded by people who believe exactly as you do, bit for the rest of us who don’t live in the government-funded land of “inside the Beltway,” we have to deal with these things.
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Well, technically, I’m a few miles outside the beltway…

But, I live in a very diverse county. I’m still mostly conservative, I just left the Republican Party. I’m surrounded by liberals who don’t believe the way I do. But, I meet people here from all over the world. I work for a company that’s not based in the US.

I believe that God made the sexes different for a reason, and the gender binary is is the “norm”. But, I acknowledge that some people, deep in their minds and in their hearts, don’t agree with that.

One of the problems on CAF in World News is that people tend to think everyone is either R or D, conservative or progressive, right or wrong. I think we are all a little more complicated than that.
 
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How do you know?

And does something have to happen to a person personally in order for that person to say something is happening? if it is not my business that is set on fire by rioters, I’m not allowed to say businesses are being burned down by rioters?
 
Annie said:
How do you know?
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Because I doubt it. I highly doubt you’ve been victimized working off simple statistics. Being told your opinion is wrong is not being victimized, nor is Facebook deleting your comments or Twitter suspending you. I personally think you’re just buying into the victimization narrative among the right.
 
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It does not matter whether I personally have been victimized. What matter is whether people are victimized, which is what I am saying is happening.

So, are you seriously suggesting that the only people who can talk about this are those who actually have been victimized? Yes or no, Student.
 
Annie said:
So, are you seriously suggesting that the only people who can talk about this are those who actually have been victimized?
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Where did I say that? I’m not answering a question based on something I never said.
 
toabb said:
ironic statement considering what the current occupier of the WH has done
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According to a lot of people who oppose Pres. Trump–he’s done nothing, especially when it comes to the pandemic, but also with immigration, the Wall, the economy, the protests, etc. He’s accomplished nothing, they say.

Not much of a dictator, to get nothing done.
 
They should though… St Thomas Aquinas taught that the ideal form of government is electorate comprised of the most virtuous men in the realm, and they elect from their number a king…
Of course, that’s not realistic in a secular pluralistic society. Even so, I think virtue should be a factor… and that being the case, both recent US presidential candidates would have to be ruled out.
 
Yes, you said you doubted that I had been victimized, which strongly implies, absent any other context, that what I have to say is irrelevant.

As it turns out, I try not to use personal experience in the context of a political discussion, because it tends to bring the discussion to a halt. If people are discussing a war and someone says, my husband died in the war so I am against it, who is going to argue further? And yet the fact that someone died in a war is not an indication of the justness or lack thereof of entry into the war.

What other meaning your comment could have had other than what I say about the experience of others is irrelevant?
 
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Let me put it this way. If someone is a leftist and says they are victimized because some leftists were jailed for violent acts, I’d dispute that. I dispute it no less from the right.

Is our culture sick? Yes. But that doesn’t equate to victimization. Is such victimization possible? Yes, coming from both the left and the right.

You said it was something those of you outside the beltway have to live with. I disputed that.
 
I never said it was or was not something that happened to me.

Many of the incidents I have read about happened in places other than DC and the surrounding areas.

My comment specifying the DC area was directed towards Paul in VA because his comments in various threads at various times have indicated a lot of knowledge or understanding of what it is like in an area with different circumstances than the DC area.
 
Believe what you like, but it’s more than just a few crackpots who think like her.
 
Possibly. But we should not base our ideas on a bunch of crackpots. Are you interested in the ideas of the people in the loony bins?
 
I think she has a number of mental health issues. She recently underwent a hysterectomy because of endometriosis, and wrote about her sadness in not being able to have a child.

She’s wounded in some way. It’s pitiful really.
 
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Possibly. But we should not base our ideas on a bunch of crackpots. Are you interested in the ideas of the people in the loony bins?
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Not particularly, but public opinion, which later turns into legislation), is full of them
 
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