Finally, An Answer To Why So Many People Voted For Trump

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Well … Trump did try to deliver on his promises - though the left fought him in every single way they could - weaponizing the FBI, falsifying evidence, lawsuits at every turn, impeachment [from the day after the election], smears, misquotes, failure to legislate and work for the American people merely to hurt his agenda and not grant him any credit - there are some who are even calling the vaccine the Biden vaccine - or the Biden vaccine plan - taking credit for the work done by the Trump administration … even Biden’s 100 million vaccinated in 100 days is not as ambitious as the current Trump plan is 100 million by the end of February.

Trump has made significant progress in the middle east and not started any new wars … that is a standout leader in the world. Trump has renegotiated trade deals that were bad for America and now are more fair for all parties involved - that is leadership. Trump has gotten the European nations to pay for their own defense merely by demanding they pay the amount that they agreed to pay … that is real leadership.

So you son either is not very astute or listened to too much leftest spin … perhaps your spin?
 
I’ve read more impressive resumes on LinkedIn.

Seriously any Republican could have done the same without the foul mouth.
 
Would not argue that “others” could have done that … its a fact that they did not … not even Joe Biden with nearly 5 decades of opportunity …

Lots of politicians have promised to acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of Israel … including all of the most recent presidents … they promised - you imply anyone could have added that to their resumes … and yet no one had …

Ditto with NAFTA … its been acknowledged and understood that NAFTA was a disaster almost as soon as it was passed … years and years, administration after administrations … Crickets -

So seriously - any Republican and Democrat could have done that … but alas - they did not
 
YADA said:
Then they are not as Hillary said voting the way their husband’s dictate … and thus did not vote for Trump due to that reason - they voted for Trump based on policy and a four year record …
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I don’t know where people got the idea that women who support Pres. Trump are “dominated” by their husbands. It’s so insulting.

Many of us supported Donald Trump for President because of his pro-life activities and other policies that helped create more jobs (which means stronger families).
 
YADA said:
So you son either is not very astute or listened to too much leftest spin … perhaps your spin?
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Are you really telling a mother that her son is stupid or naive because he does not agree with YOUR opinions?

This is what I mean when I say relativism is pervasive in America. Our personal opinions are never any standard of objective truth. I think the man is the biggest con man and worst leader we have ever had. That does not mean I think I am smarter than you. You have your opinion and I have mine. There is no need to try and slam and diminish another to raise yourself.
 
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I did not say her son was stupid or naive … you are putting your opinions into my statement … she issued many generalities about how her son changed his feelings about Trump and leadership …

I offered some real illustrations where he lead and accomplished leadership on the world stage …

And stated perhaps he was not looking or was swayed in his opinions .by the spin of others … none of which indicates him being stupid nor having to agree with my opinions …

Perhaps you think he is stupid … I dont know him and have not tested his so cant offer an ‘opinion’ on that being the case …AND I never said he was
 
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YADA said:
I did not say her son was stupid or naive
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If you are going to be that literal, you will also note that I did not say you did. I asked if you did. That you addressed a mother about her son in such a tone is more concerning to me that the specifics.

You speak of not knowing him buy you did not hesitate to judge, saying, " So you son either is not very astute or listened to too much leftest spin." Other than your own opinion, what do you base this on?
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TDS has been a staple of this forum…
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It is a matter of opinion who is the deceived.
 
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It was Motherwit who brought her son and his “opinion” into this discussion. She alleged that her son had been taken in … etc … which also alludes to her son not being exactly astute and being easily swayed/influenced …

If a mother does not want her son discussed in a public forum then she should not post about him in that public forum …

Your defense of her is sweet though … just saying 🤣
 
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I did not defend hitler.

But he is emphatically not histories biggest mass murderer, because later monsters were worse by orders of magnitude.

The Holocaust killed ~11 million people, 6 million of which were Jews. The rest being poles, gays, Roma, Slavs, Catholics, etc.

Stalin killed 20 million.

Mao, 45 million.

My grandfather liberated dachau. I’m not a Nazi apologist, but people need to know the nazis aren’t the only bad ideology of the 20th century, and that by body count they weren’t even the worst.
 
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Zerge said:
The so-called “pro-lifers” are really “anti-abortionists” and the so called “pro-abortionists” are actually “pro-choicers”.
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Really? I suppose you don’t know of all of the work done through various Catholic (and other) charities to help at-risk families, but the “anti-abortion” label is wrong. There are plenty of programs to help single women and families.

Also, what choice do the “pro-choice” people advocate? The only choice is to kill babies. How many children does PP place into adopted homes every year? Any?
 
ConcernedAmerican said:
My grandfather liberated dachau. I’m not a Nazi apologist, but people need to know the nazis aren’t the only bad ideology of the 20th century, and that by body count they weren’t even the worse.
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I agree with you that the Nazi atrocities were not the only atrocities.

Indeed, we in the U.S. are still grappling with the horrible reality that atrocities were commited by AMERICANS; e.g., the lynching of who knows how many black people (mainly men and boys).

Another example is the treatment of Native Americans, which did include massacre, along with re-location (which often led to starvation).

Americans have not committed massacres on such a scale as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. But we certainly do not have totally clean hands.

That being said, I think the reason why the Nazi atrocities were so horrific is that the world considered Germany one of the most civilized and advanced countries in world history. Germany was a modern, industrialized nation with amazing schools, arts, culture, night life, opportunities, etc. Their economy was booming, and many American companies did business with Germany’s companies. The people were intelligent, cultured, civilized, art-loving, and very modern in their thinking. They also had a rich history of Christianity, and both Catholics and Protestants were thriving in Germany. The Jewish population was small, but thriving, and their culture–oh, so sad!–was so fascinating!

Other countries like Russia and China were not as familiar to Americans and the rest of the world. In fact, for many years, China was closed off to the outside world and we knew little about what was happening other than from missionaries who managed to get in and then get out again, and from people who managed to leave China and immigrate.

These two countries seemed mired in the past to many of us, certainly not as modern and advanced as Germany.

I believe this is why we hold Nazi Germany up in a"special category" of “evil”–it’s just so hard to imagine how the people in this advanced, modern, enlightened nation could “fall for” Hitler and his racist policies. Of course, anti-Semitism was wide-spread (and still is) throughout the world, and Germany was no exception. But–to deal with prejudice by genocide of people that you hate–it’s unbelievable! And yet, it happened–a whole nation followed an anti-social misfit into nightmare.
 
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Also, what choice do the “pro-choice” people advocate? The only choice is to kill babies. How many children does PP place into adopted homes every year? Any?
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Pro-Choice means exactly what it means. The woman has a choice. To either have an abortion or not to have an abortion.
 
RootKitWarrior said:
Pro-Choice means exactly what it means. The woman has a choice. To either have an abortion or not to have an abortion.
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It’s a child not a choice.

Let’s make sure the Left owes up to what it is doing to minorities by placing their Planned Parenthood clinics overwhelmingly in minority neighborhoods.

Racism is what it means. Treating other races as being inferior.

And that’s not to mention funding for overseas, Third World Nations.
 
Nazi Germany and the communist governments are two sides to the same heretical coin. Both sought to have the state replace God. Both were rooted in materialism, and viewed man as a means to an end, not as a rational creature made in the image of God and worthy of dignity in respect in their own right, not based on what they can produce for the state.

Genocides aren’t unique in history. They were the norm for much of it when two sides went to war. The only reason the Holocaust is viewed as particularly evil by modern man is because it has an excellent marketing department.
 
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Democrats in some cases, have acted for pro-infanticide measures. Those are live babies. They are not trustworthy at all. They are ghastly. Infanticide is beyond abortion.
 
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