First case of Ebola in the US

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This is more troubling to me than it appears to be to the CDC. They say this man had potentially infectious contact with some 80 people; all of whom are now being “monitored” (whatever that means). But suppose, over time, 80 infected people come here. There doesn’t seem to be anything to prevent it. And perhaps, over time, 800 from west Africa or other places to which people who have been in west Africa go next? Maybe more? Imagine where we would be if Ebola had become widespread in Central America or even in northern Mexico a few months ago.

What, one wonders, does it really take to get a serious public health menace going? Numbers of exposures and difficulty of treatment and prevention. Those seem to be the main ingredients.

When one thinks, for instance, of AIDS, for which no truly serious preventive measures were ever taken, it is believed that about 1.1 million people in the U.S. have it. Now, of that number, virtually all would have known they were at least potentially self-exposing; something that surely limits the spread all by itself. With Ebola, that’s not the case. Some exposed people would know they have been exposed, but possibly the majority of them wouldn’t. And how would anyone take preventive measures other than to avoid contact with someone who is floridly ill with it?

Hopefully, this terrible disease will be contained and then beaten back into the jungle from whence it likely came. But one suspects it will all get worse before it gets better.
The physical punishment of ebola and AIDS is a heavy burden for any one person to carry alone.

Question:
Do threats of legal punishment for Duncan or any sick or infected person desperate enough to lie create more trouble?

Threat of legal punishment only serves to cause offenders to hide all the more. Sick people on the lam only increases the chances of innocent people getting sick.

We already saw this cat/mouse game play out in Western Africa. Shame and fear does not help. Rather it hinders.
 
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Maybe if a few airlines run a special sale on flights from Liberia to DC…
 
So far there have been no cases, that we know of, of a person leaving Dallas, or Texas, or the US, with Ebola. There have however been two cases of people trying to get to the US from Ebola countries.
The United States is an ebola country now.
 
Hi Everyone,

Plagues and epidemics have been tests of the faith. Ebola is yet another test. We must all pray and have faith.

But also gave us sense to identify risk, a brain to understand them, and the reflective instinct to avoid risk. We all must act to avoid contact with Ebola. As noted earlier in this blog, as well as in well researched medical reports, public toilets can be a major transmittal point for the virus.

To do my part in stopping the virus, for the public good, I wash my hands more frequently and often carry hand sanitizer. You may laugh but I carry with me a Gotta Go Poncho portable restroom that fits in my back pocket. With this I can avoid public restrooms when i am on the road. With the black poncho that shields me from public view I dont insult anybody. Although I get as distant as possible from traffic or people as I can. goponcho.com

Everybody pray for the lord to be with those and the family affected by the virus and that it finishes its course soon.
 
Quarantine does not stop air traffic, it only means once you get here you wait to make sure you are not infected. But slowing down air travel is a great idea.
If you lock people up for three weeks it will stop travel. Would spend three weeks incarcerated to travel?

The CDC is useless. They aren’t doing anything nor can they. This is not truth. They are taking action. There is a team in Liberia as we speak teaching the people there proper screening to prevent the spread of the disease. Also, they are gaining information on the disease. I see bravery in these souls that are willing to get down in the trenches and on the front lines. I guess they do not expect a medal, but a little gratitude would be in order. Calling them useless and say they aren’t doing anything is not right, even if it is just because you are scared.

They are risking far more than the guy walking through the airport in a hazmat suit looking like a fool.
 
Not reading through all 15 pages of this thread, but this Ebola scare reminds me of when AIDS first hit the scene. Ebola isn’t transmitted like a common cold. Unless you’re swapping spit or been in contact with the blood, sweat, or semen of this dude, you’re aren’t getting the disease. The hysteria caused by the 24-7 media of the world we live in is making me SMH.
 
The physical punishment of ebola and AIDS is a heavy burden for any one person to carry alone.

Question:
Do threats of legal punishment for Duncan or any sick or infected person desperate enough to lie create more trouble?

Threat of legal punishment only serves to cause offenders to hide all the more. Sick people on the lam only increases the chances of innocent people getting sick.

We already saw this cat/mouse game play out in Western Africa. Shame and fear does not help. Rather it hinders.
I did not suggest that potentially infected people should be punished or shamed. However, is there any compelling reason why this country should allow people from areas in which Ebola is rampant to enter this country and go amidst the population with no safeguards whatever?
 
Not reading through all 15 pages of this thread, but this Ebola scare reminds me of when AIDS first hit the scene. Ebola isn’t transmitted like a common cold. Unless you’re swapping spit or been in contact with the blood, sweat, or semen of this dude, you’re aren’t getting the disease. The hysteria caused by the 24-7 media of the world we live in is making me SMH.
It’s not the same thing, of course, but apparently 1.1 million Americans have AIDS which seems less transmissible than Ebola. Do we really want to risk having 1.1 million people in this country with Ebola?

20 years ago, nobody heard of Ebola. It came out of the jungle, apparently, being (it is thought) carried by wildlife but rarely infecting humans. For some reason it is now spreading rapidly through human populations. Medical people believe they know why it is affecting greatly more people than before, and they believe they know what it takes to transmit it. But do they really? Do they know for sure the virus hasn’t mutated so that it’s more easily transmitted than before? Some viruses, it appears, can mutate quickly. It doesn’t need to go airborne. Even a longer life than expected on an environmental surface could make the danger much greater. Wildlife in Africa carry it. Do we know for sure wild or domestic animals won’t pick it up from an infected person and carry it? If rodents can carry it in Africa, is there some reason to think they can’t possibly carry it here?

The truth is, the CDC doesn’t know. Here’s what they say about hemmorhagic fevers generally:

"Viruses associated with most VHFs are zoonotic. This means that these viruses naturally reside in an animal reservoir host or arthropod vector. They are totally dependent on their hosts for replication and overall survival. For the most part, rodents and arthropods are the main reservoirs for viruses causing VHFs. The multimammate rat, cotton rat, deer mouse, house mouse, and other field rodents are examples of reservoir hosts. Arthropod ticks and mosquitoes serve as vectors for some of the illnesses. ** However, the hosts of some viruses remain unknown–Ebola and Marburg viruses are well-known examples.**

One doesn’t need to heed the media in order to be concerned about this. Thousands have died of it, and that’s just a fact. Travelers can carry it without them or anyone else knowing it, and that’s a fact as well. We don’t know what hosts, whether animal or insect, carry it.
 
I did not suggest that potentially infected people should be punished or shamed. However, is there any compelling reason why this country should allow people from areas in which Ebola is rampant to enter this country and go amidst the population with no safeguards whatever?
Well, we cant hurt their feelings, now can we? The ACLU might sue.
 
Fighting Ebola 101: Six household items that can protect you nbcnews.to/1sPXlKk
Omigosh! And they expect us to find comfort in this?

One really troubling thing. If, as they say, human waste is a source of infection and should be burned, um, how are we going to burn the absolutely omnipresent animal waste in the environment? Since CDC believes there are animal or insect vectors, but don’t know which ones they are, are we perhaps not supposed to mow our lawns, which throws animal waste and insect parts into the air? Are we supposed to wear rubber overshoes when walking and then douse them in chlorine. Are we supposed to get finer screens for our windows so no midges (they do carry disease) can possibly get in?
 
NBC’s Doctor Nancy Snyderman walks and talks in “the belly of the beast”.
nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ebola-stalks-streets-hard-hit-monrovia-liberia-n216516

I am surprised to see her with loose wisps of hair falling in front of her eyes…actually sweeping them away with her bare hands as she walks through a temperature checkpoint.
She is wearing bands of something on both wrists. Medical care workers know how germs can settle under jewelry and such.
Germ a phoebe here?
Not really
Just sensible
Her first cameraman test positive now the whole crew is coming back via private jet for isolation.
 
Patient was released, allowed to go home and made contact with ~100 people including 8 children from 5 different schools.
Where’s congress? Where’s Senator Lindsey Graham?

Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope,

rex
 
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Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope, rex

This remark is not related in any way to the Ebola outbreak and why suggest Benghazi could possibly be a waste of taxpayer money? The lies and deceit surrounding the horrible terrorist attack in Benghazi are the result of the President and his administration. Do you support the slandering of the American people by blaming them for a U-tube video mocking Islam? Really? Do you believe all the lies and condone sneaking around the truth? 😦
 
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Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope, rex

This remark is not related in any way to the Ebola outbreak and why suggest Benghazi could possibly be a waste of taxpayer money? The lies and deceit surrounding the horrible terrorist attack in Benghazi are the result of the President and his administration. Do you support the slandering of the American people by blaming them for a U-tube video mocking Islam? Really? Do you believe all the lies and condone sneaking around the truth? 😦
:clapping:
 
QUOTE=TaurusRex;12382672]
Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope, rex

This remark is not related in any way to the Ebola outbreak and why suggest Benghazi could possibly be a waste of taxpayer money? The lies and deceit surrounding the horrible terrorist attack in Benghazi are the result of the President and his administration. Do you support the slandering of the American people by blaming them for a U-tube video mocking Islam? Really? Do you believe all the lies and condone sneaking around the truth? 😦

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Not reading through all 15 pages of this thread, but this Ebola scare reminds me of when AIDS first hit the scene. Ebola isn’t transmitted like a common cold. Unless you’re swapping spit or been in contact with the blood, sweat, or semen of this dude, you’re aren’t getting the disease. The hysteria caused by the 24-7 media of the world we live in is making me SMH.
Ebola is deadly and can be transmitted far more easily than HIV. Even the WHO acknowledged people were getting it from taxi cabs. HIV is bio safety level 2, Anthrax is level 3 and Ebola and Marburgh are bio safety level 4 (the highest).

I doubt the NBC camerman who just became infected ever laid a hand on anyone who appeared sick. Now we have the 5th American w/Ebola and his coworkers flying back.

nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/nbc-news-freelancer-africa-diagnosed-ebola-n217271
 
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