Flag flap may make us ugly americans

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You all disgust me. The reflexive anti-Americanism on this thread churns my stomach.

The fruits of multiculturalism and eurosocialism!
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
A flag is not anything sacred, and is not owed any special religious respect. It is only a secular symbol of a particular country. If a flag were sacred, then there was much disrespect being shown when the Allies tore down Nazi flags en masse and threw them to the ground. 🤷
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…um…

Yes?
 
torch621 said:
You all disgust me. The reflexive anti-Americanism on this thread churns my stomach.

The fruits of multiculturalism and eurosocialism!
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You ought to hear me sing The Internationale in my fine tenor voice. 👍.
 
GOSH

Lord knows, I am not the “chest pounding” US patriot guy but I think some of our non-American forumites- who I really respect- are making too much of this.

I don’t even buy into that “American exceptionalism” deal BUT

not lowering the flag is just OUR THING. It’s what we do. Other countries have their own “thing”. This is “our thing”.

It’s not arrogance! Come on!!

I usually look to our non-American members for that “quiet voice of reason”- what’s going on here
 
I was singing “O Christmas Tree” once and someone accused me of being a Communist!
 
The Queen has no power, yet the British and others over whom she only symbolically reigns, treat her with a certain deference because it’s traditional to do it.

If, indeed, it’s traditional not to dip the American flag before a foreign ruler or whatever, then we ought not to do it. I’m reasonably confident the Queen isn’t going to go bilious over it.
 
Ridgerunner said:
The Queen has no power, yet the British and others over whom she only symbolically reigns, treat her with a certain deference because it’s traditional to do it.

If, indeed, it’s traditional not to dip the American flag before a foreign ruler or whatever, then we ought not to do it. I’m reasonably confident the Queen isn’t going to go bilious over it.
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The anti-American crowd sure is. Of course, why wouldn’t they? They all see us as dumb, ignorant rednecks who are inferior to the rest of the world anyway.
 
torch621 said:
You all disgust me. The reflexive anti-Americanism on this thread churns my stomach.

The fruits of multiculturalism and eurosocialism!
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  1. We are on a Catholic forum. Charity, my friend.🙂
  2. I don’t much care what others think of us, TBH. Not worth the headache. I know that this is the greatest country on the planet. That’s enough for me.
  3. Let it go. 😉
 
torch621 said:
You all disgust me. The reflexive anti-Americanism on this thread churns my stomach.

The fruits of multiculturalism and eurosocialism!
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You should check if your local pharmacy has anything of use.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it. That’s why I said that only the military find it obligatory to not dip the U.S. flag. 🤷
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Wait. So the fact that only the military does follow a law (since there is no penalty) means that the law only applies to the military despite the law not saying this? The fact that you won’t be fined or imprisoned for not showing respect to the flag doesn’t means you shouldn’t.

And really, whether we’ve dipped the flag in the past or not doesn’t matter. I don’t think anyone here thinks we’ve never made mistakes. We shouldn’t be in the habit of doing such things to foreign rulers, and we shouldn’t expect foreign countries to do it for us.

It’s true that the flag is just a symbol, but it’s our symbol. You can argue all you want that other people will see it as nothing more than a sign of respect to dip the flag. But our flag is our symbol not theirs, and if our tradition says that dipping the flag would be more than that and unacceptable, then we shouldn’t do it. And since it’s our flag, others should either accept that or get over it, not expect us to defy our rules for the sake of pleasing parade choreography.

If you think it’s silly that our rules forbid dipping a flag, then you can try to change our rules and make in generally considered acceptable to do so, but until then there is no reason to say we should just ignore our rules about our flag to make other people more happy about how a stupid parade looks.
 
Alright, fine, we should dip the flag to the freakin’ queen if it’s so damn important. You happy now?
 
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