Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe fired

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Exactly what I expect based on experience. Less skilled workers make out like kings. More skilled workers make less in return for having a much easier job. All make out like kings in retirement and benefits. And all have far less fear of ever being fired. They especially don’t have to worry about being fired because their position is being eliminated. The government only ever grows.
As far as government jobs that involve a profession, I think that the work itself is no less difficult, but it is more defined in scope. For example, in pubic sector high tech jobs there is the responsibility to understand and incorporate innovation but not develop innovation. Innovation is exciting, potentially lucrative and all-consuming. It leaves little time and attention for family. Yet another example would be that public sector jobs are performed in one time zone while private sector tech jobs sometimes span time zones on different sides of the globe. It gives new meaning to Walt Whitman’s Crossing Brooklyn Ferry: “Whatever it is, it avails not—distance avails not, and place avails not.”

In the matter of State government compensation: When revenue declines, employee income declines; and/or there are layoffs. The real advantage for government employees is that there is a written layoff procedure so that employees know and understand how and why layoffs will be implemented. It is also advantageous to know that if there are layoffs, employees have rights in the event that rehiring occurs. All of these advantages are the result of employer-employee processes within government that address fairness. While fairness is not absent in the private sector, it has a higher priority in public sector entities that strive, or should strive, to reflect American values.
 
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Exactly. I don’t think this will turn out to have been a good move for President Trump.
If the internal FBI group really found that McCabe lied to federal investigators, Trump’s only choices were to fire McCabe before Sunday or to fire him after Sunday.
 
If the internal FBI group really found that McCabe lied to federal investigators, Trump’s only choices were to fire McCabe before Sunday or to fire him after Sunday.
That may be. Still, the choice to fire him before Sunday will, I fear, backfire.

And, believe it or not, I don’t want that to happen. I don’t want a precedent to be set where the Justice Department, along with (probably) the rest of the executive branch, turns against the legitimately elected executive. That would be a very bad thing.

But I fear that our president is taking us down that path. I would love to be proven wrong.
 
That may be. Still, the choice to fire him before Sunday will, I fear, backfire.
You might be right, and certainly if the Democrat media has anything to say about it, it will.

But the thing that really makes me doubt it is that McCabe’s own people did this. Career FBI agents. Now, maybe the FBI code of conduct is so stringent that nobody but them will think breaches mean anything. But I’m not sure of that. Lying under oath, if that’s what McCabe did, is hard for just about anybody to overlook.

But I also think your middle paragraph might have it backward. Within the FBI, at least, within the DOJ, and perhaps other agencies, we have internal people in a self-declared war against this president; a war they have engaged in since well before he was elected. This isn’t something the president can really tolerate, though I expect some have to a degree. But I think the scale this time is just something no president could ignore.
 
Bromwich, who has been representing McCabe for several weeks, was formerly the inspector general of the Justice Department.
Who better to tell us how the office is supposed to work.

This was all rushed through to screw McCabe out of his pension.
 
Who better to tell us how the office is supposed to work.
There is no question at all that the “revolving door” between government and private business give a significant advantage to the follow-on business person (or lawyer). There are those who think the revolving door is not a beneficial thing for the country, however.

But McCabe will certainly benefit from it unless he’s charged with, and convicted of a crime.
 
Special counsel Robert Mueller has in his possession memos written by former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe documenting his conversations with Donald Trump.

The memos also are seen as a way to corroborate the account of another fired former FBI officlal, James Comey, with regard to his interactions with Donald Trump.

And today, Comey, tweeted:

“Mr. President, the American people will hear my story very soon. And they can judge for themselves who is honorable and who is not.”

Stay tuned. This could get more interesting.


 
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It is interesting to me that you see some sort of self-declared war against Trump from people in the FBI, but somehow don’t see any connections between Russia and Trump.
To my knowledge, there’s no proven Russia/Trump collusion to affect the election. At least not yet, and it has been going on for what, now? almost two years? Well, maybe more than two years depending on when the wiretapping of Trump Tower began.

But the IG has the emails between Strzok and Page. So, whatever the “insurance policy” against Trump was, at least three high-level people in the FBI were part of it. And we know for sure that Comey exonerated Clinton even before that investigation had concluded. Now, I’ll grant that Comey’s antics might simply have been his (foolish) way of trying to ensure he kept his job no matter who was elected. But that Strzok/McCabe/Page business is something else entirely.
 
Not too bad, coming as it does from an obvious and admitted partisan in the matter.
 
It is interesting to me that you see some sort of self-declared war against Trump from people in the FBI, but somehow don’t see any connections between Russia and Trump.
The FBI has been shown to have investigated Trump as a candidate. The FBI promoted a false report with salacious claims about Trump. What exactly is this Russian connection? No one ever says what it is or, more importantly, why it was illegal.

The left can’t even state their conspiracy theory. They just assure us their is one. At least the right would say things like Clinton used her slush fund charity to collect money in order to give favors as Secretary of State to foreign governments. That theory includes some facts and infers a motive. The left has zero facts in their unstated conspiracy theory.
 
Comey, Mueller, Strzok, and McCabe are not kindergarteners. Together, they are and will be formidable. They’ll destroy Trump if they can. I’m not persuaded yet, though, that they’ll get it done.
 
Probably not.
If the rest of the country is like this thread, the responses pretty much fall along party lines. The libertarians do tend to be rather quiet though, so I am not sure where they fall on the spectrum.
 
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