Former/Non Catholics: What do you practice now?

[Catholic4aReasn]

Hi Heathen Dawn!
Heathen Dawn:

The Goddess and the God have personally revealed Themselves to me,

I’m intrigued!! How did they personally reveal themselves to you? Where do they reside?

My experiences, my personal relationship with Them.

Tell me about your personal relationship with the god and godess. What kind of a relationship do you have with them? How does that work, specifically?

Thanks!

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[BlessedBe13]

Catholic4aReasn:

That’s because Christianity is objectively true, even for those who don’t feel that it is.

And where is the proof that Christianity is objectively true?

 

[RBushlow]

Mindy Mae:

I’m interested in hearing what religions (if any) former Catholics took up after they left the Church, or what is practiced by the majority of non-Catholics with intention of converting. I was raised Methodist but have lately began seriously questioning it. After much investigation, I’ve decided not to become Catholic. However, there are so many other Christian and non-Christian faiths that I don’t know where to go from here!

Could you repost this as a Poll. I’d be interested in the results.

 

[BlessedBe13]

Catholic4aReasn:

We are to choose, in this life, whether we want God or whether we don’t. That’s hell; eternal separation from God and the knowledge that being there was our own choice.

I have god and goddess in my life. I am not rejecting them. I am not choosing to go to hell. So I guess I’m not going then, right?

So really love and hell are not at all mutually exclusive.

They still are. If god were all-loving, he wouldn’t want anyone going to a place of eternal torment. If he were all-loving, he would be more understanding of how it may be harder for some people to believe in god, and still love them the same, without separating them from him.

God loves us so much that he won’t force himself on us.

Essentially by the Catholic point of view, he is. He may not be doing it directly, but it’s basically, “Choose me or go to hell”. So that still, in essence, is still forcing a choice.
In Christ,
Nancy

 

[Heathen_Dawn]

Catholic4aReasn:

There are a few posts in this thread by Wiccans. They “feel” that paganism is true and that Christianity is not.

No, I don’t feel paganism is true, I know it. The Goddess and the God have personally revealed Themselves to me.

That’s because Christianity is objectively true, even for those who don’t feel that it is.

Very convincing.

I’m intrigued!! How did they personally reveal themselves to you? Where do they reside?

They spoke to me. They can reside anywhere.

Tell me about your personal relationship with the god and godess. What kind of a relationship do you have with them? How does that work, specifically?

Um, what’s to say much here? The Gods are persons, just like my human friends and relations are. They speak to me, I answer back, They reply to that and so on. That’s how a personal relationship is supposed to be. You mean you don’t have a personal relationship with your God? You should.

 

[BlessedBe13]

Catholic4aReasn:

With all due respect to my Protestant brothers and sisters, herein lies the problem with Protestantism.

I’m not sure what this has to with Protestantism as I am not a Protestant and never was. I suppose I can see some connection, but not really.

One searches for the church that most closely fits one’s own beliefs rather than conforming one’s own beliefs to the truth of the Church.

It makes sense that I would follow a religion that holds beliefs similar to my own. Are you saying it would be better for me, or anyone else, to pretend to believe in something that I really don’t, just because it claims to be the “Truth”? That would be lying, now wouldn’t it? Instead I am expressing my faith through my beliefs and I feel that is more constructive to me spiritually than to sit around playing pretend.

 

[Catholic4aReasn]

Heathen Dawn:

Um, what’s to say much here? The Gods are persons, just like my human friends and relations are. They speak to me, I answer back, They reply to that and so on. That’s how a personal relationship is supposed to be. You mean you don’t have a personal relationship with your God? You should.

Hi Heathen Dawn!!

I was asking because I didn’t know. You sound offended. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you.

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[Catholic4aReasn]

BlessedBe13:

I’m not sure what this has to with Protestantism as I am not a Protestant and never was. I suppose I can see some connection, but not really.

My comment was addressed to Protestants and not to you as you are not a Protestant.

It makes sense that I would follow a religion that holds beliefs similar to my own. Are you saying it would be better for me, or anyone else, to pretend to believe in something that I really don’t, just because it claims to be the “Truth”? That would be lying, now wouldn’t it? Instead I am expressing my faith through my beliefs and I feel that is more constructive to me spiritually than to sit around playing pretend.

I see what you’re saying but this approach makes truth relative to the individual.

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[Catholic4aReasn]

Heathen Dawn:

The Goddess and the God have personally revealed Themselves to me…They speak to me, I answer back,

Hi Heathen Dawn!

Have you considered the possibility that the voices you are hearing are demons presenting themselves as gods and goddesses specifically to keep you from seeking the One True God?

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[kidderdoc]

The Gods are persons, just like my human friends and relations are. They speak to me, I answer back, They reply to that and so on. That’s how a personal relationship is supposed to be. You mean you don’t have a personal relationship with your God? You should.

I don’t want to be unkind, but when gods are speaking to you personally, time to get the “oil” checked!

Kidder

 

[Heathen_Dawn]

Catholic4aReasn:

Have you considered the possibility that the voices you are hearing are demons presenting themselves as gods and goddesses specifically to keep you from seeking the One True God?

Yes, I have considered that possiblity, weighed it and found it wanting. In fact, lots of polytheists who have been confronted by this hypothesis from Christians have had to consider it. One believer in the Greek Gods, Sannion, responds to it in his article Why do you Believe in the Gods? Go there to the title that says “How do you know that the Gods you worship are who you imagine them to be - for instance, what if they are demons deceiving you into a false belief?” A most educating read.

kidderdoc:

I don’t want to be unkind, but when gods are speaking to you personally, time to get the “oil” checked!

Your profile says you’re Catholic. Why, then, do you speak like an atheist?

 

[BlessedBe13]

Heathen Dawn:

One believer in the Greek Gods, Sannion, responds to it in his article Why do you Believe in the Gods?

Nice article. I liked it. Very interesting.

 

[Catholic4aReasn]

BlessedBe13:

And where is the proof that Christianity is objectively true?

What sort of proof would convince you?

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[Catholic4aReasn]

Originally Posted by Catholic4aReasn
Have you considered the possibility that the voices you are hearing are demons presenting themselves as gods and goddesses specifically to keep you from seeking the One True God?
Heathen Dawn:

Yes, I have considered that possiblity, weighed it and found it wanting. In fact, lots of polytheists who have been confronted by this hypothesis from Christians have had to consider it. One believer in the Greek Gods, Sannion, responds to it in his article Why do you Believe in the Gods? Go there to the title that says “How do you know that the Gods you worship are who you imagine them to be - for instance, what if they are demons deceiving you into a false belief?” A most educating read.

Interestingly, the author acknowledges (in a somewhat concescending manner ) that it was explained to him that he was taking the OT scripture passage out of context, yet he made no effort to establish why he felt he was not. He was, in fact, doing just that. Anyone can justify just about anything by doing that including, apparently, that God is just a big ol’ nasty meanie.

In Christ,
Nancy

 

[BlessedBe13]

Catholic4aReasn:

What sort of proof would convince you?

In Christ,
Nancy

You are evading the question.

If there was objective truth, it could be presented to me without needing to know what would convince me. I can say that the Bible would not convince me because it was written as part of the Catholic religion, and would obviously be biased towards Catholicism being true.

 

[SPOKENWORD]

Is there any God out there that has shed one drop of thier blood for you? Its the blood that saves you,without it you are lost foerever. Only Jesus Christ My Lord and Savior has and He did it to save Me and You. ,Praise God.

 

[Mijoy2]

Heathen Dawn:

The Bible says God made hell and sends people there. But even if it’s a case of God saying to His rejectors “thy will be done,” the fact is no-one wants to be in hell, no-one wants to be imprisoned and tortured forever. It’s a forced predicament any way you slice it.

Heathen, may I suggest to you *The Great Divorce, *By C.S.Lewis?
At least, It’s a good read. At most, it illustrates “Hell” as Lewis saw it. Not a forced predicament at all.

 

[Church_Militant]

I guess Wicca is nice if ya like polytheism & nature worship. Most of the Wiccans I know will readily admit they are witches…at least the one wiccan friend I had said so.

Most of the other Christians seemed afraid of him but we got along really well… I sort of figure it this way…to paraphrase a line from one of the Lethal Weapon movies…“Hey, It’s your soul Cochise!”

What would I be if I wasn’t Catholic? Can’t imagine…left & came home… I’m in from the cold & ain’t goin’ out there again. Now I’m trying to get some of those half frozen souls out there in here by the nice warm fire of His love.

As for all that rhetoric about no hell etc etc etc… That reminds me of this story:

Two churches across the street from each other.

One’s sign says “There ain’t no hell!”

The other sign says “The hell there ain’t!”

I understand what I believe & waste no time in excessive doubt.
I have things to do for people in need,…the least of these brethren.

 

[BlessedBe13]

Church Militant:

I guess Wicca is nice if ya like polytheism & nature worship.

I suppose. Even though Wicca isn’t the only polytheistic or only nature-based religion out there.

Most of the Wiccans I know will readily admit they are witches

Are you stating this as a good thing or a bad thing or just as a fact? Just curious. Not all Wiccans practice witchcraft and not all witches are Wiccan.

 

[MariaG]

posted by BlessedBe

If there was objective truth, it could be presented to me without needing to know what would convince me. I can say that the Bible would not convince me because it was written as part of the Catholic religion, and would obviously be biased towards Catholicism being true.

I find that really funny. There are so many conversations out there with Protestants who would completely disagree with you! Usually the argument is that Catholics are not Biblical and take it out of context. Can’t win for losing.

God Bless,
Maria