Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood

[guanophore]

You’re going to get me banned on a Christian forum that you pay in order to procure an imaginary title.

I can’t get anyone banned,m CT. What gets people banned is not following the forum rules. As a forum supporter, I have a vested interest in the forums functioning properly.

Whoopie!

If you could think about someone besides yourself, you might realize that others are financially supporting you for the privilege of posting here.

This still doesn’t change the truth of what I’ve said.

CT, I fear that the “truth” of what you have said is evident only to yourself, and perhaps that is also not unexpected, as it all seems to be about you.

You’re right, let’s just all submit to Mr./Fr. Corapi…

This kind of childish sarcasm does not contribute to productive discussion either. Corapi has never asked any one to “submit” to him. If, at some point, you achieve the personal maturity to listen to his talks, it will be clear to you that they are all Christ centered.

Everyone makes mistakes. Rather than trying to make me feel stupid, won’t you try to squeeze in some more excuses for how you can separate the fact that you’ve listened to hundreds of hours of this man speaking from the fact that you’re compromising charity to defend Mr./Fr. Corapi.

No one can “make you feel stupid”, CT. Your feelings belong to you, and no one can make you have them, or make them go away. You are responsible for them, and how you express them. If you feel “stupid”, it might be because you did something “stupid” and God is trying to use your conscience to correct you. That is one of the purposes for having feelings.

Confronting rude behavior is not a lack of charity. On the contrary, if someone is breaking the forum rules, and heading toward a swift suspension of posting privileges, then it is charitable to warn them and try to instruct them. You can check your catechism under the works of mercy on that one.

Or, you can listen to one of Corapi’s lectures. One of his favorites is “it is not loving to confirm people in their errors”.

 

[Abba]

CTCatholic5,

I quickly skimmed a previous post of yours about the Dominicans and Jesuits and the youthful expressions you have for them. There are certain formalities in certain topics etc…and rules of the forum that are important because of spiritual reasons.

I want to say that when it comes to our priests, I walk one step behind them. I may clap my hands to wake him up if he is going the wrong way - but - always one step behind and with A LOT of respect. A LOT of people have held back up and down the hierarchy of the Church, reporters, etc… exactly because he is a priest. A priest is a priest. If you are allowed to stay, I can share some reading about this that can help you to understand.

 

[CTCatholic5]

CTCatholic5,

I hope that you are not banned. I think you made a mistake by using the expression ‘stud’ etc… and of course, you are opposing the apposite position desired by your opponent. But, in the same way he has learned a lot at CAF I would think that instead of getting you to violate even more forum rules he would want you to stay, regardless of the fact that you are not backing Father Corapi.

Don’t play the game… contact the moderators. Maybe they will give you a break.

May God bless you abundantly,

Abba

Thank you for your kind words.

As I indicated when this discussion first began, its personal now. It changed into a really acerbic exchange almost immediately. People identify pretty intensely with this guy, and don’t realize it.

Corapi > Charity :-\

 

[catharina]

CTCatholic5,

I quickly skimmed a previous post of yours about the Dominicans and Jesuits and the youthful expressions you have for them. There are certain formalities in certain topics etc…and rules of the forum that are important because of spiritual reasons.

I want to say that when it comes to our priests, I walk one step behind them. I may clap my hands to wake him up if he is going the wrong way - but - always one step behind and with A LOT of respect. A LOT of people have held back up and down the hierarchy of the Church, reporters, etc… exactly because he is a priest. A priest is a priest. If you are allowed to stay, I can share some reading about this that can help you to understand.

It’s that simple.
This site does not exist as a place to mock and insult our clergy.
By the grace of God, we have clergy and therefore we have the Sacraments.

We are called to charity.

 

[CTCatholic5]

I can’t get anyone banned,m CT. What gets people banned is not following the forum rules. As a forum supporter, I have a vested interest in the forums functioning properly.

If you could think about someone besides yourself, you might realize that others are financially supporting you for the privilege of posting here.

CT, I fear that the “truth” of what you have said is evident only to yourself, and perhaps that is also not unexpected, as it all seems to be about you.

This kind of childish sarcasm does not contribute to productive discussion either. Corapi has never asked any one to “submit” to him. If, at some point, you achieve the personal maturity to listen to his talks, it will be clear to you that they are all Christ centered.

No one can “make you feel stupid”, CT. Your feelings belong to you, and no one can make you have them, or make them go away. You are responsible for them, and how you express them. If you feel “stupid”, it might be because you did something “stupid” and God is trying to use your conscience to correct you. That is one of the purposes for having feelings.

Confronting rude behavior is not a lack of charity. On the contrary, if someone is breaking the forum rules, and heading toward a swift suspension of posting privileges, then it is charitable to warn them and try to instruct them. You can check your catechism under the works of mercy on that one.

Or, you can listen to one of Corapi’s lectures. One of his favorites is “it is not loving to confirm people in their errors”.

OK, OK, you win. I’ll leave your hero alone. Attrition wins, again. See for yourself if ‘the dog who won’t die’ is worth all of your invective.

 

[Abba]

The ‘fans’ of Father Corapi have started a petition:

WE THE UNDERSIGNED REQUEST YOUR HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVl TO INVESTIGATE THE CASE OF FR JOHN CORAPI AND FULLY EXONERATE HIM.

ipetitions.com/petition/fr-john-corapi/

 

[CTCatholic5]

I can’t get anyone banned,m CT. What gets people banned is not following the forum rules. As a forum supporter, I have a vested interest in the forums functioning properly.

If you could think about someone besides yourself, you might realize that others are financially supporting you for the privilege of posting here.

CT, I fear that the “truth” of what you have said is evident only to yourself, and perhaps that is also not unexpected, as it all seems to be about you.

This kind of childish sarcasm does not contribute to productive discussion either. Corapi has never asked any one to “submit” to him. If, at some point, you achieve the personal maturity to listen to his talks, it will be clear to you that they are all Christ centered.

No one can “make you feel stupid”, CT. Your feelings belong to you, and no one can make you have them, or make them go away. You are responsible for them, and how you express them. If you feel “stupid”, it might be because you did something “stupid” and God is trying to use your conscience to correct you. That is one of the purposes for having feelings.

Confronting rude behavior is not a lack of charity. On the contrary, if someone is breaking the forum rules, and heading toward a swift suspension of posting privileges, then it is charitable to warn them and try to instruct them. You can check your catechism under the works of mercy on that one.

Or, you can listen to one of Corapi’s lectures. One of his favorites is “it is not loving to confirm people in their errors”.

Nah, you can’t spell Corapi without ‘c r a p’–the man’s a fraud, and you’re a fu ck in g idiot for buying into this b u l l s h i t Corapi’s been trying to have the collar and coke at the same time. Try fertilizing your garden with some of the s h i t you hear from Corapi–maybe you can grow a little self-respect and stop fu ck in g defending him like a damn idiot.

I said it now and for all time: I’ve never been more proud of our bishops for coming down hard on this criminal.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

An email received today from Fr. John Corapi:

The phonelines are on fire!!

We have received numerous comments regarding our phonelines being busy. We do apologize for the inconvenience, but we simply do not have the resources to handle the recent call volume. We’d like to encourage you to visit our website: www.FrJohn.com where the entire catalog is available and even some previews! You can be assured that your financial information is secure with our encrypted shopping-cart system. Plus, your order is processed immediately!!
If you wish to leave a comment or pose a question regarding the recent activity we’d like to encourage you to visit some of the dialogue on The Black SheepDog’s Facebook page or his personal blog site.
“…I have NOT left The Church!”

(Source: www.TheBlackSheepDog.us)

"I am sincerely thankful to all of you that have been kind and charitable, and also those that have perhaps been something less than that. Everyone has their opinions, and a perfect right to them. I respect that. Knowledge is a great thing, but as the old saying goes, “A little knowledge can be dangerous.” There is a dilemma that we face in the information age: On the one hand we want to use all of the marvelous technology we have. On the other hand, we don’t want to end up guilty of scarcely having a single unpublished thought. We have to say something, but we can’t say everything.

I think it’s a bit too easy to arrive at an erroneous conclusion when you base it on a fallacious presupposition. For instance, some very kind and fine people assume that I have “left the Church.” Please, understand this, I have not left the Church. I love the Catholic Church and would not “leave the Church.” I have resigned from public ministry, which is rather anticlimactic to be sure since I was out of it anyhow due to the suspension or “administrative leave,” which is tantamount to suspension. There are elements of this that you don’t know about, and that’s not your fault.

Once a man is ordained a priest he remains a priest for all eternity. Holy Orders is one of the three sacraments that imprints an indelible mark on the soul. What the Church can give or remove is “faculties”, which authorizes the person to publicly administer the sacraments. I always cringe when I hear “he’s not a priest anymore.” If he ever was, he still is. What they mean is that he is not functioning in the normal way most priests function, that is, publicly administering the sacraments. Most folks’ contact with priests is the parish priest. They come in contact with him primarily when he administers the sacraments.

A priest is ordained primarily to confect the Eucharist. A validly ordained priest can do this in the normal setting of a parish or community celebration of the holy Eucharist, or in private, as I have done for twenty years. It has the same power. The power is not from how many people are present, it is from the same sacrifice of Calvary made present in time and space. The celebration of the sacraments is a monumentally noble, holy, and powerful thing. Please don’t misunderstand me and think I believe anything less than that. Each of us is called to a unique way of serving God and society. Certainly I was called to be a priest, but not as a parish priest, and that is not out of character with the history and tradition of the Church. St. Paul was a mission preacher basically. He traveled widely and preached. He did not function like a parish priest, at one time almost boasting that he thanked God that he hadn’t baptized many of them as he didn’t want to share in their sins. He was not demeaning the sacrament, just thankful he wouldn’t have to answer to God for having some share in profaning such a holy state of life.

My mission was discerned by my legitimate superior in the Church long before I was ordained. It was preaching. He, Fr. James Flanagan, told me this in 1987. I was ordained in 1991. He said it would be a huge mistake for me to ever be constrained by a parish or conventional way of life in one place. I did not take this upon myself. It was given to me by the Church and I was sent. Please don’t think I don’t value the sacraments. I do. However, the public administration of the sacraments was never what the Church told me to do. They sent me to preach. The two are not mutually exclusive. They are complimentary. Not all of the members of the Body of Christ are the same, but they are all necessary, noble, and holy.

[cut here for length]

 

[Monte_RCMS]

[email from Fr. John Corapi continued]

Some of you have thought I might have acted too fast and not given the Church enough time to complete their investigation. You could be right, but you also don’t know the facts like I do. The utter disregard for our reasonable requests and certain statements made by the lawyer for the Society of Our Lady confirmed to us that they would not complete the investigation so long as I insisted in exercising my civil and human rights. That is a dead horse. Why beat it? My lawyers would not allow me to continue unless ten questions were answered regarding the nature of the process—simple reasonable questions. They ignored the request for 6 weeks and still ignore it. These weren’t rocket science questions. At a future time we’ll publish the entire letter and the questions.

For about ten years I have been attacked, threatened, and endured extortion attempts. The leadership of the Church never lifted a finger to help me in any way with this. Every time someone gets angry with me or decides they want a payday I have to go through hell with no help from the leadership of the Church. I admit I have grown weary of that. The trauma created by all of the sexual abuse of minors scandals has warped the judgment of some in authority. They are running scared. I believe in my case they panicked. “We don’t know if the dog is rabid, but let’s shoot him in the head just in case.” Well, this black sheep of a sheepdog has been “shot in the head” before and lived to tell about it. I’ll be telling about it for awhile longer.

The name “The Black Sheep Dog” is the title of my autobiography, a title which I came up with about a year and a half ago. That title was, by the way, stolen by a person who worked for me while they were working for me, attempting to secure internet domain names under that title. That is in effect a violation of federal intellectual property laws since I have both registered trademarks and copyright on that title. The title is simply the combination of a black sheep, that would be me; and a sheepdog, that would also be me. The concept of a sheepdog guarding the flock is certainly biblical and also an idea I gleaned from an article from LTC Dave Grossman, which we’ll post for you to read at a future date, or you can read it on the internet where it has been circulating for some time.

Listen my friends, I realize this situation is less than ideal. I don’t like it either, but under the circumstances I honestly believed and still do that I had one of two choices to make:

1. Crawl under a rock and quietly die; or
2. Don’t crawl under the rock and don’t die. I feel that I still have something to offer.

The leadership of the Church has made it clear to me they don’t want me anymore. They have a right to do that and I have to accept that. So, I’ll do what I can outside of the Church. I’m not leaving the Church. I am simply doing something else in life so that I won’t wither up and die, and so that you can still derive some benefit from my gifts from God. It may not be as good as before, or it may be better. The only thing I know for sure is that I’m not going to disobey the Church and attempt to “minister” as a priest, and I’m not going to lay down and die. I’m not ready to do that just yet. As a matter of fact, you might be pleasantly surprised at what’s in our future. Stay in touch. We may not have the old meeting places anymore, but we have some new ones and I would like to meet you there. Until next time this is the Black SheepDog, unleashed and very much alive.

"

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[CTCatholic5]

[email from Fr. John Corapi continued]

Some of you have thought I might have acted too fast and not given the Church enough time to complete their investigation. You could be right, but you also don’t know the facts like I do. The utter disregard for our reasonable requests and certain statements made by the lawyer for the Society of Our Lady confirmed to us that they would not complete the investigation so long as I insisted in exercising my civil and human rights. That is a dead horse. Why beat it? My lawyers would not allow me to continue unless ten questions were answered regarding the nature of the process—simple reasonable questions. They ignored the request for 6 weeks and still ignore it. These weren’t rocket science questions. At a future time we’ll publish the entire letter and the questions.

For about ten years I have been attacked, threatened, and endured extortion attempts. /Paranoid delusions]The leadership of the Church never lifted a finger to help me in any way with this. Every time someone gets angry with me or decides they want a payday I have to go through hell with no help from the leadership of the Church “who are too busy helping poor people to help my rich ***, those misers!”]. I admit I have grown weary of that. The trauma created by all of the sexual abuse of minors scandals has warped the judgment of some in authority *. *They are running scared [read: concerned for the Church’s moral credibility and unwilling to stake this on the case of a rich degenerate professional-preacher who rides a Harley Fat-Boy, carries a concealed weapon, and works 5 days a week to maintain his girlish figure]. I believe in my case they panicked. “We don’t know if the dog is rabid, but let’s shoot him in the head just in case.” Well, this black sheep of a sheepdog has been “shot in the head” before and lived to tell about it. I’ll be telling about it for awhile longer.

The name “The Black Sheep Dog” is the [stolen] title of my autobiography, a [stolen] title which [read:stole] I came up with about a year and a half ago. That title was, by the way, stolen * by a person who worked for me while they were working for me, attempting to secure internet domain names under that title. That is in effect a violation of federal intellectual property laws since I have both registered trademarks and copyright on that title. The title is simply the combination of a black sheep, that would be me; and a sheepdog, that would also be me. The concept of a sheepdog guarding the flock is certainly biblical and also an idea I gleaned from an article from LTC Dave Grossman, STOLE*] which we’ll post for you to read at a future date, or you can read it on the internet where it has been circulating for some time. [Which, btw, he has to add otherwise he’ll be accused of stealing]

Listen my friends, I realize this situation is less than ideal. I don’t like it either, but under the circumstances I honestly believed and still do that I had one of two choices to make:

1. Crawl under a rock and quietly die; or
2. Don’t crawl under the rock and don’t die. I feel that I still have something to offer.

The leadership of the Church has made it clear to me they don’t want me anymore. They have a right to do that and I have to accept that. So, I’ll do what I can outside of the Church. I’m not leaving the Church. I am simply doing something else in life so that I won’t wither up and die, and so that you can still derive some benefit from my gifts from God. It may not be as good as before, or it may be better. The only thing I know for sure is that I’m not going to disobey the Church and attempt to “minister” as a priest, and I’m not going to lay down and die. I’m not ready to do that just yet. As a matter of fact, you might be pleasantly surprised at what’s in our future. Stay in touch. We may not have the old meeting places anymore, but we have some new ones and I would like to meet you there. Until next time this is the Black SheepDog, unleashed and very much alive.

"

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Fr John Corapi on Facebook
Fr John Corapi on Twitter
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Mein Kampf doesn’t have this kind of s h i t.

 

[rayne89]

Nah, you can’t spell Corapi without ‘c r a p’

You know I agreed with some of your posts up until now although the tone was a bit much…this is clearly over the line and I’m guessing you are trying to get yourself banned. Or clearly trying to get this thread locked or removed.

 

[CTCatholic5]

You know I agreed with some of your posts up until now although the tone was a bit much…this is clearly over the line and I’m guessing you are trying to get yourself banned. Or clearly trying to get this thread locked or removed.

Whatever, dude. I’m sick of seeing Catholics look like idiots everywhere I turn. I’m just telling it like it is–every time a man behind the collar has a mental breakdown, we all look like superstitious retards. …and then all of the ‘real’ Catholics, who contribute to Santa Cruz media, CAF, &c. get the last word.

-Bitter Disaffected Catholic

 

[Teelynn]

You know I agreed with some of your posts up until now although the tone was a bit much…this is clearly over the line and I’m guessing you are trying to get yourself banned. Or clearly trying to get this thread locked or removed.

The profanity and condescension from this poster is way over the top. Wonder where the mods are?

 

[CTCatholic5]

The profanity and condescension from this poster is way over the top. Wonder where the mods are?

Asleep, like decent Catholics… get over it.

 

[whm]

The profanity and condescension from this poster is way over the top. Wonder where the mods are?

It really makes one convinced that he is right. Post like his only make the problem worse.

 

[CTCatholic5]

It really makes one convinced that he is right. Post like his only make the problem worse.

I’m not trying to win hearts and minds here, bucko. I just feel hurt and betrayed… Can’t you see that?

 

[whm]

The** ‘fans’ o**f Father Corapi have started a petition:

WE THE UNDERSIGNED REQUEST YOUR HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVl TO INVESTIGATE THE CASE OF FR JOHN CORAPI AND FULLY EXONERATE HIM.

ipetitions.com/petition/fr-john-corapi/

When we refer to “fans” it might be helpful to acknowledge that is “some” fans or a subset of fans. Although obviously not intentional, I see people who care about Father Corapi getting defensive every time a generalization is made.

 

[whm]

I’m not trying to win hearts and minds here, bucko. I just feel hurt and betrayed… Can’t you see that?

You are not the only one hurting,

 

[rayne89]

The ‘fans’ of Father Corapi have started a petition:

WE THE UNDERSIGNED REQUEST YOUR HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVl TO INVESTIGATE THE CASE OF FR JOHN CORAPI AND FULLY EXONERATE HIM.

You’d think they request our Pope to investigate and discover the truth -whatever it maybe. That’s like saying “this our petition -we want you to investigate and this is what we expect you to declare”.

I think the “fans” are a bit out of touch with the reality that John Corapi is not next in line of importance after the Pope. His Holiness has a huge responsibility to the faithful world wide. One American priest who walked away from the investigative process of his own accord is hardly a comparison to life and death issues, Christians are still being martyred for their faith outside of the western world bubble, abortion is still legal -their are too many pressing issues even to recount. Really, some people need a reality check.

 

[qui_est_ce]

Unless you intend to draw a parallel between The Black Sheepdog and other entertainers? If that is what the man formerly known as Fr. Corapi means to become, an entertainer, self-pity and paranoia don’t end up very attractive to a Catholic audience.

Me? It may get the thread closed, but I think he may be under attack by Satan. Go search his facial transformation and also Alexander La Vey. Even if he didn’t look remarkably like the famous Satanist, I would still think “possession” from all the strange statements he has made since this news broke, and his website with all the references to being “unleashed.” Would a priest use that terminology? I know a being who would, though…

Very insightful