Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood

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I can’t say I know the details of everything that happened or pertained to Fr Corapi, be it true or false, good or bad. But one thing I do know and that is he has always preach the truth of the gospel and the teachings of the Church, faithfully and courageously without qualm. Such qualities are rarely found in many priests in this day and age. Fr. Corapi has a such a charisma that influences many Catholics back into the Church, and converts too. After all that is said and done, it is all that matters isn’t it? To bring converts and Catholics back into the Church. It’s the reason why he is so well known. People either love him or hate him. Many people are disappointed in him about his decision to leave the priesthood, myself included, but I wouldn’t hold that against him. I mean, what do I know. I would have good thoughts about him from what I know and and see what knowledge would be imparted to us in the future. Hopefully, he will recover his good name in time.

With this in mind, I never expect to see him in this unfortunate situation today. I can understand a bad priest found in such situation, but a priest like Fr. Corapi. I can’t help but imagine that Satan must have gain some sort of conquest over the Church right now.
 
The source was me. I looked very closely at all of the available information and came to the conclusion that this man IS suspended (he and his religious association, SOLT, agree on this) and that there are NO pronouncements from anyone or any civil or Church institution that he has been laicized, defrocked or charged with any crime civilly, criminally or canonically.

However, ask me to produce sources for associated rumors, innuendo, unsubstantiated and uncharitable accusations and other mularkey - well, there aren’t enough hours in the day…
 
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This is the truth…maybe they may be elected to his tribunal.

I learnt a lot time ago a lesson from the Lord. A woman at the school I worked had this very huge wedding (Italian style…carriage et al). Well, her marriage lasted a year or so and next thing you know, she was getting married IN THE CHURCH again with another big wedding. IN MY HEAD, I judged her and the church for the easiness of getting annulments these days. I WAS SO WRONG!

She came to me one day to confide in me (God’s grace) to tell me that her first husband had a vasectomy before getting married without telling her. They tried to get pregnant, and she found out! The marriage never existed in God’s eyes!

This taught me a very good lesson! Although I never spoke to anybody about it (like this forum), but my uncharitableness was just as blatant and I confessed my arrogance. I will never, never conclude anything until I have read the whole facts…and that may never happen. It is best to err on the side of caustion for charity’s skae.

Let us pray for all concerned. 😊
For the sake of charity
For the love of God.
Have mercy on us and on the whole world
 
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I’m responding to some consistent messages of anxiety and rejection I seem to be reading over the last several pages:

Why does he have to be a saint to be effective? Do you not think that priests who do not have the (a) opportunity to be, or (b) interest in being, or (c) magnetism to be – a public figure-- are not as guilty of different variants of the Capital Sin of Pride as he is?

I have known lots of priests because of my training and have had very close friendships with a number of them, over a long period of time. None of the priests, not one – regardless of how holy he seems to be – does not have at least one major struggle with one of the Capital Sins (pride, lust, anger, and envy are probably the 4 most frequently apparent). Now, if these priests were itinerant preachers on radio and TV, people would be gossiping about how “prideful” they are, because at some point their human flaws would become on display. But that is so unfair to demand higher standards of sanctity for a “public” priest than for a “private” priest. Corapi isn’t any more “prideful” than your average Catholic priest, i.m.o – having known many of them, diocesan and religious. But the way they choose to “show-off” just varies with their particular opportunities to show off: for some, they want to ‘show off’ with the publicity about their local parish school (they want to take credit for that); for others, it’s through fundraising (Catholic causes, etc.); for others, it’s publicity about their books, if they author any, or their public speaking engagements, or their network of associates.

Because Corapi is not a saint does not mean (1) that he is the devil or being unduly controlled by the devil; (2) that he is not worthy to be a priest, or less worthy than his sinful brother priests, (3) that he has “failed” lay Catholics who have idolized him rather than responding to his call to idolize God alone, (4) that he should be persecuted by his superiors, or that his accuser should be allowed to exploit Church vulnerability on abuse issues, or that listeners who have benefited from his ministry should now doubt everything of value he has ever introduced them to.

You and I are as much called to sainthood as John Corapi is. He is not “more” called to sainthood, nor does he deserve to be condemned – and the state of his soul speculated about – if/when he appears to be less than saintly. He merely has a different role and different opportunities for sanctity. But every priest has at least as many challenges to sainthood as any lay Catholic has.

I understand the argument that some are making: that staying would show “humility and obedience,” and leaving is evidence of “pride.” I disagree. For this priest, with his personality, (the uniqueness that each priest brings to priesthood), leaving is evidence of principle, not pride. God uses our own temperaments, personalities, and weaknesses to deliver his message. Corapi is not a docile monk, but he is also not a rebel for the sake of rebellion (i.e., pride). He is a very different man, and his expression of his ministerial role is legitimate for him. I notice that I don’t see his detractors complaining about other religious figures who have evangelized in unorthodox ways, in unusual setttings, and with controversial, equally flawed personalities.

Finally, I maintain that those who believe that he has suddenly “changed,” or that he supposedly should “become humble” have not listened carefully to his talks. The ‘bravado’ that is a tone of some of his talks is mostly just a storytelling technique and an evangelization technique. Along with stories about his past is a lot of acknowledgment of weaknesses that remain, temptations that remain, sins that remain, faults & deficiencies that persist. In other words, he demonstrates the virtue of humility (acknowledgment of the truth, as he and others have defined humility), but not a false humility that pretends not to have an ego. Rather, he has tried to use his expansive ego in imaginative ways to spread the need for our constant conversion (his as well).

As to his reaction to this whole episode, I won’t repeat myself but refer to my earlier posts. His reaction is logical and Trademark Corapi. I’m just surprised that so many of you are surprised. Perhaps you were listening to a different John Corapi than I was listening to. 🤷
 
*I was not going to say this on this thread but have changed my mind.

I love EWTN and watch it often. I have many friends who loved Fr Corapi but I myself could not understand why. First of all I found him boastful and a show off. That put me off. Then when he began to colour his beard I thought gosh what for! Vanity obviously. It only made him look worse.

I wonder if he is reading this thread. I wonder if he cares that he has hurt many people. I think we should all pray for him. I know I will as from today.

Cinette *
i have wondered also if he is following this thread or other blogs. i would think the answer would be affirmative. if so, at least he knows we are praying for him.
 
Post-script on all the speculation about his military background. I have heard him specifically say, “It wasn’t the Special Forces,” and also, “It wasn’t the Green Berets,” and in the next breath say, “but in some ways it was a lot like [those].” I took him to mean that he was at least at one point, at one moment in time, in a unit with some specially demanding training and/or possible mission (with training for that potential mission, in anticipation). It could have been short-lived. It could have been merely a back-up unit. It also could have been that he was being considered for GB or SF at one point. But had he gone off to dwell on personal details, his listeners would have lost the message.

I.m.o. he was not trying to be deceptive, but to provide a narrative frame, so that the listeners could relate to the concept of the rigors of training, parallel to spiritual training, which we all must undergo if we want to make progress on a spiritual path. It was intended as a parallel, not offered (as they say in Court) “for the truth of the matter.”

If you’re all his biographers, I guess this is a concern of yours. Personally, I think your “concern” has missed the message.
 
Donna P;8011899:
Padre Pio came to mind when all of this started…Christ never said we’d be treated fairly in this life. He said we would have a great place with him in Heaven if we were accused in this life for following Him. Father Corapi’s suffering was such a gift. I’m sorry that he seems to have thrown it away.QUOTE]

I was unaware of this allegation against Corapi until today. And that same thought jumped into my mind too. From a crummy past, Corapi had a miracle and embraced God, and in turn God entrusted him to become a priest with the special gifts and responsibilities that come with priesthood. Corapi is the kind of guy to take God’s gift and run with it; did this lawsuit, accusations, and politics cause Corapi to become disenchanted with God and Catholicism?

Corapi’s devotion to Our Mother, St Padre Pio, and back-to-basic Catholicism enthusiasm and drive is just tossed to the side now, just thrown away with two hands? Is he going into exile due to jealousy from peers and superiors for his passion and popular messages?

The whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test. Something isn’t right, it just doesn’t add up. A large piece of the puzzle is being withheld at this time, possibly a piece of the truth, and when that it revealed, all of us will be able to sit more easily with Corapi’s situation and decision.

Welcome MrsCinFL!!! :kiss4you:

Thank you for joining us at Catholic Answers Forums!!! :flowers:

Fortunately, Father Corapi’s fate (as does all of us) rest in God’s hands. 1 Corinthians 2:2 says:
For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified.
*** I know I take my eyes off Jesus occasionally and I need always to be looking to him (and receiving Him in the Eucharist) to be on the right path.

Please continue to join in here at CAF; share in the discussions and groups!!! :blessyou:

Bruce
 
Post-script on all the speculation about his military background…

…I have heard him specifically say, “It wasn’t the Special Forces,” It was intended as a parallel, not offered (as they say in Court) “for the truth of the matter.”

If you’re all his biographers, I guess this is a concern of yours. Personally, I think your “concern” has missed the message.
Some are quick to judge, and to throw clods of dirt.
A lot of the posters on this thread might do well to join next Sunday`s Confession queue.
 
I can’t say I know the details of everything that happened or pertained to Fr Corapi, be it true or false, good or bad. But one thing I do know and that is he has always preach the truth of the gospel and the teachings of the Church, faithfully and courageously without qualm. Such qualities are rarely found in many priests in this day and age. Fr. Corapi has a such a charisma that influences many Catholics back into the Church, and converts too.–from Cathgal
I have met Fr. Eutenauer. Do any of you think he didn’t know he was going down sooner or later? I can tell you that he knew it was just a matter of time.

Everyone knows you can’t “dawg on” your employer (as they say in the Midwest) and get away with it.

In Fr. Eutenauer’s exorcism book, the forward by Fr. Corapi basically comes out and says the Church leadership has been deliberately derelict in its duties.

How many times have I seen it in my profession? They set their sights on someone, watch their every move. Everyone has weaknessess. We count on each other to give us the “benefit of the doubt”. If we are in the good graces of the right people, we sometimes even get a second chance. But, if they have it out for you, look out.

Those who “tell it like it is” are always ostracized. Always.

They find something, sooner or later, either partially true or contrived, and then…let the frenzy begin. The rest are so weak minded, they smell the blood and join in. Did it not happen to the Lord? Think about it.

This “feeding frenzy”, in my mind, is a pretty good sign they have been on the right track. :twocents:
 
I know he said he wasn’t leaving the priesthood (at this time anyway) that could take a long time if he decided to do that, but the letter HE wrote his superiors said he had been unhappy in 3 areas and he didn’t want to function as priest anymore. Since he didn’t do 90% of priestly work, he said 10%, it seemed he meant he wouldn’t be a priest at all, but a preacher. This has been going on for years by his admission, before this case and maybe it just gave him the push to leave which is why it was so quick.

Maybe if he doesnt want to marry or date, it doesn’t matter. An excerpt and the link

SOLT received a letter from Fr. Corapi, dated June 3, 2011, indicating that, because of the physical, emotional and spiritual distress he has endured over the past few years, he could no longer continue to function as a priest or a member of the SOLT

soltnews.blogspot.com/2011/06/official-solt-statement-on-behalf-of-fr.html
 
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How many times have I seen it in my profession? They set their sights on someone, watch their every move. Everyone has weaknessess. We count on each other to give us the “benefit of the doubt”. If we are in the good graces of the right people, we sometimes even get a second chance. But, if they have it out for you, look out.

Those who “tell it like it is” are always ostracized. Always.

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I agree if you keep after someone, anyone, famous, politiician, you might find cracks (except Mr. Rogers 🙂 ) but as some have said, maybe saying one thing and doing another gets some angry. There have been Christian preachers, very effective, but some knew they were saying one thing and doing another…we all sin, but it irks some to see someone have a certain reputation and know they live their private life differently.
I am not saying he did, don’t want to know most people’s private lives, but it isn’t always vindictive, sometimes they just think “hyprocrite”.
 
New Mark Shea blog:

markshea.blogspot.com/2011/06/gaping-hole-in-fr-corapis-story.html

Long story short: Independant 3rd party has seen Fr. Corapi’s military records, and he’s never been to SF training, nor was he injured, as he’s said in previous years. He went to Basic, then to Admin school, then to Europe.

I don’t even know what the think anymore. :confused:
His blog post was original. It seems weird to me that significant amounts of his military training or duty assignments would be left off of his permanent record. I always thought that the military kept pretty good records in areas like this, but I suppose somebody will post to tell me that they keep horrible records etc.

But this at least does seem to be a significant find or at least clarification of his status in the military.

ChadS
 
Some are quick to judge, and to throw clods of dirt.
A lot of the posters on this thread might do well to join next Sunday`s Confession queue.
🙂 Yes indeed. There are those that either like or don’t like his “style” of preaching. That is to be expected. The saying, “You can’t please em all” comes to mind. I think people are trying to put this all together with a verdict before all the evidence is in. Some might be letting their feelings of him get in the way. Whether or not people love him or hate him, one thing is absolutely certain…He did in fact preach the truth of the Church through the gospel of Jesus Christ. He was and is not a “modernist.” We just don’t yet have all the facts. We have some of them, but not all. No one here is able to see the big picture without all the facts! I personally believe that there is an elephant in the room that is invisible so far. Only the good Lord knows all the facts of this tragic situation, and it is He that is the only one who can read hearts.
Pray for him and for ALL priests and clergy that are going through similar experiences.

I did notice yesterday on EWTN, the intention of their Divine Mercy Chaplet was for all Priests and Clergy especially those being persecuted. Persecution in general covers a very broad range but it did get my attention.
 
I still have hope. There is something like an unorganised campaign of faithful believers praying and willing him to abandon this path that is bringing about such confusion and division. The Holy Spirit has inspired so many to plead with him to return to obedience, humility and the fellowship of his order, surely, however distressed he may be with all that is going on, surely he will hear our pleas, the Holy Spirit will inspire him and he will realise that his current trajectory is leading in the opposite direction to God.

I pray that Jesus and Mary will pick up this wounded soldier from the battlefield and carry him to safety.

His Black Sheepdog website is currently down, if only this was permanent - I am praying that one day we will hear the announcement that he has returned to his order and is taking time out in retreat and silent prayer.

Please God, for all the good work this priest has done, save him and us from our weaknesses and set our feet on the path to eternity.
 
No one has the facts, just speculation, but, they have no problem joining in the feeding frenzy.

Perhaps, someday, it will happen to one of you seminar posters. Then you will experience people ripping you to shreds, thread, by thread, by thread, and will learn empathy.

What a tool of the devil this internet is.
 
No one has the facts, just speculation, but, they have no problem joining in the feeding frenzy.

Perhaps, someday, it will happen to one of you seminar posters. Then you will experience people ripping you to shreds, thread, by thread, by thread, and will learn empathy.

What a tool of the devil this internet is.
And on this very note, and and also hoping this link works:o

danielsvenoconnor.com/2011/06/22/catholic-venom/

Very much worth the read
 
So many posters who ‘know what Father needs’ or ‘should’ be doing.

It all comes down to: “He’s not doing this MY way! And I don’t like it!”

May you be judged with more charity should the need ever arise.
 
No one has the facts, just speculation, but, they have no problem joining in the feeding frenzy.

Perhaps, someday, it will happen to one of you seminar posters. Then you will experience people ripping you to shreds, thread, by thread, by thread, and will learn empathy.

What a tool of the devil this internet is.
People are reacting to his actions and statements. And his statements have been very ambiguous and open to interpretation, as opposed to his clear preaching and explaining of the Gospel. He has never been my cup of tea, but that’s just a style difference. But, he has taken what is normally a confidential matter and made it public, and in a manner that the other parties could not really respond.

Yes, the internet has been a tool of the devil in this instance, but perhaps in a manner you did not originally mean. The public controversy was created by Fr. Corapi. I have no problem with people speaking out about things, especially injustice. But 3 months is too short of a time to “whistleblow”, don’t you think?
 
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