Fr. Pfleger calls for women priests, cardinals

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Brooklyn said:
OK - here is what it says: “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

Seems to fit with what Father Pfleger said, don’ t you think?
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Therefore HIS BISHOP corrected him.
That is the job of his bishop.

OUTTA HERE.
 
catharina said:
Terrifically kind and wise of you.
In wrestling, football, etc., past posts would be called a pile-on.

If it weren’t so stupid and needless, I’d be amused.
I’m with you: OUTTA HERE!
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I think this is catharina’s way of saying that we are right. 😉
 
Brooklyn said:
I think this is catharina’s way of saying that we are right. 😉
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You are “right” if you acknowledge you have NO right to demand I endorse YOUR words, a precis of real Church Teaching. If not, if you hold to your own blurb as Church Teaching - then you are WRONG. BTW, who is “we” - that is, do you represent some formal GROUP?
 
Brooklyn said:
YES!! catharina admitted that the statement of Father Pfleger was heresy.

Thank you!
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As I have done many times in this thread. Yes, ‘Cardinal G . corrected his priest.’
My guess? You only read responses to your own posts. Bad move.
I respond to anyone who addresses me.

I will not quote your mal-formed precis teaching - EVER.
 
Now I will take a very well-earned break and HOPE that those
who imagine they can invent the teaching of the Church
in their OWN words will cease and desist - or simply grow up.

Either action would suffice.
God bless all.
 
catharina said:
You are “right” if you acknowledge you have NO right to demand I endorse YOUR words, a precis of real Church Teaching. If not, if you hold to your own blurb as Church Teaching - then you are WRONG. BTW, who is “we” - that is, do you represent some formal GROUP?
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I only asked you to acknowledge the teaching of Pope John Paul II, as you did. It is not my words that I asked you to acknowledge, but the Church’s teaching, which you already said you adhere to.

The “we” is those of us who have already acknowledged that teaching. Now you, my friend, are part of “we.”
 
catharina said:
As I have done many times in this thread. Yes, ‘Cardinal G . corrected his priest.’
My guess? You only read responses to your own posts. Bad move.
I respond to anyone who addresses me.

I will not quote your mal-formed precis teaching - EVER.
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You have admitted “many times” that Father Pfleger’s statement is heretical? Then why are you fighting everyone who has said the same thing? 🤷
 
Brooklyn said:
I only asked you to acknowledge the teaching of Pope John Paul II, as you did. It is not my words that I asked you to acknowledge, but the Church’s teaching, which you already said you adhere to.

The “we” is those of us who have already acknowledged that teaching. Now you, my friend, are part of “we.”
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My dear - SCROLL BACK.
YOu are VERY wrong in your denial.
MANY TIMES you demanded I quote/acknowledge your words about heresy.
As did others in your threaded “we.”
That will NEVER happen.

I have been part of the great Catholic Church “we” for 64+ yrs.
That’s way good enough for me.
 
Brooklyn said:
You have admitted “many times” that Father Pfleger’s statement is heretical? Then why are you fighting everyone who has said the same thing? 🤷
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Read more carefully.
I have admitted many times
“Yes, ‘Cardinal G . corrected his priest.’”

Get the difference? No?
Pray about it.
 
Brooklyn said:
OK - here is what it says: “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

Seems to fit with what Father Pfleger said, don’ t you think?
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Yes, but we seem to have entered a parallel universe.
 
catharina said:
Read more carefully.
I have admitted many times
“Yes, ‘Cardinal G . corrected his priest.’”

Get the difference? No?
Pray about it.
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Forgive me for saying this, but I think the “difference” is you enjoy thinking you are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you agree with them.
 
Catharina likes to play word games and refuses to call a spade a spade or question those who may be wrong. If you refuse to admit womens ordination is heresy you are in error and if you refuse to accept it you are also a heretic. Those are facts. Enjoy your day!
 
Inhimthroughher said:
Catharina likes to play word games and refuses to call a spade a spade or question those who may be wrong. If you refuse to admit womens ordination is heresy you are in error and if you refuse to accept it you are also a heretic. Those are facts. Enjoy your day!
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To you and the rest of the little "we:’

I will NEVER quote the off-on-a tangent meanderings of several posters in the “we” (you were one) "“Women’s ordination is Heresy and to promote it is heretical” with my agreement. That is a NEVER. You are pseudo teachers.

Get used to it.
 
catharina said:
To you and the rest of the little "we:’

I will NEVER quote the off-on-a tangent meanderings of several posters in the “we” (you were one) "“Women’s ordination is Heresy and to promote it is heretical” with my agreement. That is a NEVER. You are pseudo teachers.

Get used to it.
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catharina, I for one am getting very use to you. And I have learned that no matter what, whether you agree or disagree, you are going to argue for the sake of arguing, and keep using insults and derogatory comments.

You will be happy to know that I, for one, will never respond to your posts again.
 
catharina said:
Read more carefully.
I have admitted many times
“Yes, ‘Cardinal G . corrected his priest.’”

Get the difference? No?
Pray about it.
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I’m really trying to understand you, but I guess I’m not as smart as you are.
 
Brooklyn said:
Forgive me for saying this, but I think the “difference” is you enjoy thinking you are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you agree with them.
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SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.
YOU’VE ALREADY DONE YOUR WORST.

THEN REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
SCOLL BACK TO SEE HOW MANY TIMES
YOU AND YOUR ‘WE’ DEMANDED I REPEAT YOUR OWN WORDS.

(Repeating your little precis? That won’t be happening.)
 
Brooklyn said:
catharina, I for one am getting very use to you. And I have learned that no matter what, whether you agree or disagree, you are going to argue for the sake of arguing, and keep using insults and derogatory comments.

You will be happy to know that I, for one, will never respond to your posts again.
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Yet you should. You refuse to acknowledge that the issue was your insistence that I agree with your words. WHY?
 
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