Gay Marriage and the End of Christian Civilization

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So far.
(in the USA, anyway).

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
Once same sex marriage is the law of the nation, which i believe will happen withing 3-5 years, than it is a simple matter of time before churches are sued into compliance with the left’s agenda…it has been happening for two decades.

Yet, we must take heart because Jesus placed us here during this time for a reason.
 
The USA is the last best hope for the world, if this nation fails, the world fails and there will nowhere to run or hide. Besides, Christ would not have faithful Christians run away.

It is all three: social, legal and political. Yet, more than anything, it is a spiritual battle that most people are utterly unaware of…
Father John Corapi said, if the US falls, the rest of the world will follow.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
 
Father John Corapi said, if the US falls, the rest of the world will follow.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
Yes, very smart Priest he is.

Abraham Lincoln said that the USA is the last best hope for this planet. If the USA fails, or if it falls into darkness (same thing really), than the world really is in big trouble.

IMO, the fall elections are the last best hope for the last best hope!
 
Yes, very smart Priest he is.

Abraham Lincoln said that the USA is the last best hope for this planet. If the USA fails, or if it falls into darkness (same thing really), than the world really is in big trouble.

IMO, the fall elections are the last best hope for the last best hope!
I believe: This is a test.

God throws us a pebble-before He throws a brick.
I believe we have a 2nd chance-but the odds are high against us. So many proclaimed “Catholics” disregarded the Guidelines for Serious Catholic Voters put out by many of the Bishops of our Country. Argued their “feelings” and voted for the most Pro-Death President in the History of our Country.

Did they learn? Did they repent?

Or is their Hope still in this secularist?

We shall see.

This Secularist President has surrounded himself with Catholics who are not obedient to the Bishops who Define and Teach the Teachings of the Church (most obvious-their acceptance of Abortion surrounding him). Those who do not know their Faith (or choose not to obey) say, Look! He has Catholics in his Cabinet!

Pray!

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
You must be special, eh?
I am thankful for God removing the scales from my eyes to see what is really going on-and to recognize evil and good for what it is.

A great Grace received.

Pray the Rosary every day (meditating on Christ’s Life on earth), and you also will receive this Grace.

Some have more, some have less. Some “see” more, some less. It is based upon what they (we) can handle at a particular time. As time passes, and we remain in prayer (and sacrifice) we receive more.

So yes, we have received a special gift, this Grace.

It does not necessarily make us more special. It is a Gift from God.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
 
I believe: This is a test.

God throws us a pebble-before He throws a brick.
I believe we have a 2nd chance-but the odds are high against us. So many proclaimed “Catholics” disregarded the Guidelines for Serious Catholic Voters put out by many of the Bishops of our Country. Argued their “feelings” and voted for the most Pro-Death President in the History of our Country.

Did they learn? Did they repent?

Or is their Hope still in this secularist?

We shall see.

This Secularist President has surrounded himself with Catholics who are not obedient to the Bishops who Define and Teach the Teachings of the Church (most obvious-their acceptance of Abortion surrounding him). Those who do not know their Faith (or choose not to obey) say, Look! He has Catholics in his Cabinet!

Pray!

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
I agree. Within the context of the spiritual battle that literally surrounds us, we always face tests and trials.
 
I am thankful for God removing the scales from my eyes to see what is really going on-and to recognize evil and good for what it is.

A great Grace received.

Pray the Rosary every day (meditating on Christ’s Life on earth), and you also will receive this Grace.

Some have more, some have less. Some “see” more, some less. It is based upon what they (we) can handle at a particular time. As time passes, and we remain in prayer (and sacrifice) we receive more.

So yes, we have received a special gift, this Grace.

It does not necessarily make us more special. It is a Gift from God.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
pride is a sin
 
I am thankful for God removing the scales from my eyes to see what is really going on-and to recognize evil and good for what it is.

A great Grace received.

Pray the Rosary every day (meditating on Christ’s Life on earth), and you also will receive this Grace.

Some have more, some have less. Some “see” more, some less. It is based upon what they (we) can handle at a particular time. As time passes, and we remain in prayer (and sacrifice) we receive more.

So yes, we have received a special gift, this Grace.

It does not necessarily make us more special. It is a Gift from God.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
Luke 18:11
 
They are both sides of the same coin.
That is sort of the point. The idea that gay marriage is somehow special in that it is going to be the death of stable American society when legalized divorce, abortion, birth control, etc. haven’t done it is crazy. Society does not collapse as a result of one thing and the idea that previous societies have collapsed because of the acceptance of homosexuality is completely unsupportable. History is not so well recorded that we can determine the specifics of any societies collapse unless it was a result of something obvious like war, famine, or disease. Even if Christian Civilization does collapse in the near future it won’t be because gays were allowed to marry, it may be a contributing factor, but we do ourselves a great disservice whenever we latch onto one issue like this. There are more battles going on than than homosexual marriage and if we were to somehow win that battle while ignoring all the others we wouldn’t really be any better off.
 
Do not forget, Saint Faustina was told to prepare the world for Jesus’ Second Coming. That certainly has to mean something.

You will prepare the world for My final coming. (Diary 429)

Speak to the world about My mercy … It is a sign for the end times. After it will come the Day of Justice. While there is still time, let them have recourse to the fountain of My mercy. (Diary 848)

Tell souls about this great mercy of Mine, because the awful day, the day of My justice, is near. (Diary 965).

I am prolonging the time of mercy for the sake of sinners. But woe to them if they do not recognize this time of My visitation. (Diary 1160)

Before the Day of Justice, I am sending the Day of Mercy. (Diary 1588)

He who refuses to pass through the door of My mercy must pass through the door of My justice. (Diary 1146).

In addition to these words of Our Lord Sr. Faustina gives us the Words of the Mother of Mercy, the Blessed Virgin,

You have to speak to the world about His great mercy and prepare the world for the Second Coming of Him who will come, not as a merciful Savior, but as a just Judge. Oh how terrible is that day! Determined is the day of justice, the day of divine wrath. The angels tremble before it. Speak to souls about this great mercy while it is still the time for granting mercy. (Diary 635).​
ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/stfaust.htm
Didnt Jesus said that the end would be just the days of Noah? i think we are living those days. everybody is going about their business and Jesus is the last one in their minds.
 
Faith and Morals are dictated through the Magisterial Hierarchy in the Catholic Church. Our Faith does not allow us to rely upon our own personal Emotions (what we think or feel)-when it comes to the determination of Sin.

The world changes-yes. But God is the same today as He was yesterday, and He will be tomorrow. Same God-Same Laws, with the Catholic Church to define and make the determination-as led by God the Holy Spirit-as to what is Right and what is Wrong (Sin). Are some sins more grave-carry more gravity than others?

Sin is sin.
Both forms of Sin (of being unchaste-practicing Homosexual and Abortion) are Mortal Sins.

Dangerous thought-if I relied upon my own thoughts and feelings as to what is Right and Wrong (in all situations)-or even the Gravity of Particular Sins. Here, we have a Wise Priest who knows firsthand the ways of the Devil giving us a commentary as to what this means to our Society.

We would do well to listen to him. And pray for our Country. Sodomy has been the downfall of cities and civilizations in the past…regardless of what the citizens “think.”

The Breakdown of the Family leads to the Breakdown of Society. Father Euteneuer, Father Frank Pavone, Father Corapi, Father Mitch Pacwa and Mother Angelica (all very visible and important) (among others, including our Popes) have been warning us.

Are we listening?

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn
Speaking of listening it seems like you didn’t even listen to my point. I did not base anything on personal emotions, the only thing I said that could be construed as such was that IF I were to make a doomsday declaration I would base it on abortion. I do not however support doomsday declarations because that is not what the Church teaches. As I said hope is a central virtue of the Church, despair is a state of sin. Christ can conquer all things and will never give you more to bear than you are capable of withstanding. I can freely dispute what this “Wise Priest” is saying because a great many “Wise Priests” are not predicting the end of society. Yes the Pope has that that the Breakdown of Family leads to the Breakdown of Society, and that legalizing Gay Marriage lends to that, but he has never said that Gay Marriage would destroy society on its own. There is a very large gap between recognizing sin and its effects and being fearful of those effects. God and the Church can and will preserve until the last days, sometimes will be harder than other yes, but more saints come from struggle than from comfort.
 
Oh and in regards to the thought that courts are going to try to force the Church to perform Gay Marriages, what is the defense for the point that no one has tried to force the Church to allow females into the priesthood based on discrimination clauses? Really the worst I could see happening is that churches may not be able to issue legal marriage licenses anymore, and I don’t see that ability as being terribly important.
 
The breathless prediction that gay marrige will collapse society is precisely, word for word, the same language used by the Old South to defend slavery and by politicians in quite recent times to block inter-racial marriage and school integration. They truly believed that tinkering with God’s order of things would unleash our destruction. Has it? Anyone here want to publicly get behind a move to roll back civil rights?

Where has gay marriage or civil union produced armageddeon? Europe? They’re still alive and well as of this morning, or at least as well as any of us these days. Hetero folks still get married and have kids. It’s not illegal to be Catholic, and in fact the churches there still get a nice fat slice of tax money. Mass attendance is way down, but that happened long before gays were everl allowed to marry. How about South Africa? In the time period which includes gay marriage there, they’ve gone from a vicious police state to a functional, if imperfect democracy, all without the bloody civil war and dictator of the month that characterizes the rest of the continent.

How about Latin America. A number of countries and regions there which were quite recently under military dictatorships have legalized gay marriage. The people there are more solidly Catholic than most of Rome. So far as I know, there has been no mass movement to atheism or human sacrifice on the old Aztec pyramids.

“Christian civilization”, whatever that is, has survived the fall of the Roman Empire, at least two sackings of Rome, dual popes, popes that made Nero look like Fred Rogers, the Reformation, the Elightenment, Nazism and a worldwide atheist ideology with a nuclear arsenal. You sell your church far short if you think it won’t survive a few gay couples getting their social security survivor benefits in order.
 
Oh and in regards to the thought that courts are going to try to force the Church to perform Gay Marriages, what is the defense for the point that no one has tried to force the Church to allow females into the priesthood based on discrimination clauses? Really the worst I could see happening is that churches may not be able to issue legal marriage licenses anymore, and I don’t see that ability as being terribly important.
Seriously? You would be okay with our government not recognizing Cathoic marriages as valid?
 
Seriously? You would be okay with our government not recognizing Cathoic marriages as valid?
The left wants everyone to say that same sex marriage is the same as man/woman marriage, that there is absolutely no difference. They will NOT stop until the law makes them equal across the board. To the left gays being denied marriage by any church is a hate crime, is a sign of illegal discrimination and they will sue to make churches marry gays.
 
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