Gay Marriage: The Death Knell of Christiany

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For starters, gay divorce rates are equal to or higher than heterosexual ones, and that’s even when you compare the half-drunk quickies at the Vegas chapel. When it comes Catholics and born-again Christians who receive pre-marital counseling, the divorce drops to about 1%

The fact is, niceatheist, homosexual relationship cannot compete with straight, Christian ones. There will never be equality in reality no matter how sad you feel, how hard gay rights advocates push and no matter how many laws are changed or how many times Canada makes a joke out of its human rights code. That simply the nature of evil in that “it will be frustrated and turned into nothing”.

I must say I would find it amusing if the issue weren’t so serious that gay rights advocates have to push on even when they have their version of “marital equality” as dictated by the state. The fragility and insecurity they have is stark.

The best environment for a child is a two-parent household, preferably the biological parents, who are married. The poverty rates no matter how you slice them indicate this as well. Strong families are the backbone of civilization and in the long-drawn out cultural struggle, they are going to win. And when the wind blows in the other direction, a lot of your colleagues will go along with it.
 
There’s no such law, and no one has been charged.
There is now thanks to Bill C-16. And someone could definately be charged or face jail time.
There’s no “war on children” either.
Yes there is as marriage is now about the sexual pleasure of adults instead of raising kids.
In Canada, Catholic views on marriage and the family are becoming less popular every year.

Also the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada allows freedom of religion freedom of conscience freedom of expression where we are allowed to think what we want to think, although they may be limited in some ways. I have yet to see that we are not allowed to say or Catholic ideals but nevertheless the Catholic faith and it’s teachings on marriage and the family are unpopular
Canadian legal experts disagree. There’s now laws on the books where someone could be charged for not using a proper pronoun.
 
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There’s been a number of studies done around the time this nonsense became legal in the USA, and the pro-gay “marriage” crowd attacked them and their allies in the media more or less succeeding at burying the truth.

What you have to realize, pnewton, is that the loudest voices out there don’t want a debate. For some it is just conditioned, reactionary responses for others they are afraid of the Truth.

Make no mistake—the success of this agenda depends even on folks like you who want objective analyses to be stonewalled and ostracized from polite society.
 
Yes, that crazy popular argument that 2 consenting adults who love each other should be able to get married.
Marriage is a sexual relationship. Why would we propose marriage as suitable for two men??
 
Some time back I read a really interesting article about a gay man who decided to lead a chaste life, for religious reasons. He was in a relationship, and he had friends who were active in the gay lifestyle, and friends who were devoted Christians.
His partner was sad when they broke up, but pretty supportive. His gay friends gave some pushback, but he got more support and understanding from them than he had imagined. His Christian friends, of course were supportive.
The worst pushback he got? From his non-religious straight friends…
 
For 100% of people, public schools will now teach children that families need not include a mom and a dad, that same sex unions are normal, that boys might turn into girls and girls might turn into boys, that children have no right to know their mothers and fathers, that human beings are not male and female but may choose their own gender at will.
One wonders what sex ed classes will teach? It would be “non-inclusive” to be restricted to “the birds and the bees”. How will that be relevant to homosexual relationships?
 
That didn’t really answer my question. Do you have citations to studies that show that gay parents are harmful to children?
Other things being equal, does it seem preferable that a child be brought up by his parents? Be nurtured by his own mother and own father? Have a role model for both sexes? Isn’t it reasonable to expect this is the preferred model?
 
Not surprising at all. GLBT folks have been pretty reasonable in discussing these issues with me.

If I were GLBT, I would stay away from those virtue-signaling straights. You never know when they’ll knife you in the back.

Believe me, they don’t care hardly at all for minorities.

Just look at what happened to Dave Rubin. He had people at his gay “wedding” end their friendships with him because he doesn’t harbor American left-wing SJW dogma.
 
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There’s no such law, and no one has been charged.
There is now thanks to Bill C-16. And someone could definately be charged or face jail time.
And you can quote where in C-16 failing to use the “correct pronoun” will end up with you in hot water, right?
There’s no “war on children” either.
Yes there is as marriage is now about the sexual pleasure of adults instead of raising kids.
Isn’t marriage about both?
In Canada, Catholic views on marriage and the family are becoming less popular every year.

Also the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada allows freedom of religion freedom of conscience freedom of expression where we are allowed to think what we want to think, although they may be limited in some ways. I have yet to see that we are not allowed to say or Catholic ideals but nevertheless the Catholic faith and it’s teachings on marriage and the family are unpopular
Canadian legal experts disagree. There’s now laws on the books where someone could be charged for not using a proper pronoun.
You keep saying this, but you’re not providing the text.
 
For starters, gay divorce rates are equal to or higher than heterosexual ones, and that’s even when you compare the half-drunk quickies at the Vegas chapel. When it comes Catholics and born-again Christians who receive pre-marital counseling, the divorce drops to about 1%
So the argument is more counselling before marriage? Sounds like a good idea to me.
The fact is, niceatheist, homosexual relationship cannot compete with straight, Christian ones. There will never be equality in reality no matter how sad you feel, how hard gay rights advocates push and no matter how many laws are changed or how many times Canada makes a joke out of its human rights code. That simply the nature of evil in that “it will be frustrated and turned into nothing”.
What does competition have to do with this? The extending of marital rights to homosexuals isn’t about who gets the better outcome.
I must say I would find it amusing if the issue weren’t so serious that gay rights advocates have to push on even when they have their version of “marital equality” as dictated by the state. The fragility and insecurity they have is stark.
Gay marriage has wide acceptance in North American society, so this is hardly state imposition.
The best environment for a child is a two-parent household, preferably the biological parents, who are married. The poverty rates no matter how you slice them indicate this as well. Strong families are the backbone of civilization and in the long-drawn out cultural struggle, they are going to win. And when the wind blows in the other direction, a lot of your colleagues will go along with it.
And you can cite the studies that show that children in same sex homes have worse outcomes, right?

And the last sentence sounds suspiciously like a threat.
 
What I want is data, not disconnected stories. Anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless.
It will take a long time to identify all the problems and produce such analysis. But reason can guide us in the meantime.
 
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What I want is data, not disconnected stories. Anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless.
It will take a long time to identify all the problems and produce such analysis. But reason can guide us in the meantime.
And by “reason”, you mean your personal prejudices.
 
Actually, a lot of the problems are already apparent. The poverty rate for children who are not raised in 2-parent households is higher.
Which has nothing to do with same-sex partners raising children, and has everything to do with economics. Since the preponderance of single parent homes are with the mother, and earning potential among this group are lower even in optimal circumstances, I’d say this has everything to do with gender income inequality, cost of daycare, etc.
Transgender folks are several times more likely to commit suicide.
Which likely has as much to do with discrimination as with any inherently greater emotional instability.
Practicing homosexual behavior means a higher risk for disease.
Poor sexual practices raise the likelihood of disease, gay or straight.

And why do you keep posting anecdotal stories? I want data. That means statistical studies, not lurid stories.
 
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And by “reason”, you mean your personal prejudices.
There is no prejudice involved in judging a Child’s mother and father to be the preferred model for parenting.
But you’ve just admitted there isn’t enough data, so other than your preconceptions, I can see no justification for your claim that children in a same sex partners’ home are worse off than children in a traditional family.
 
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