Genocide in the Bible: does this trouble anyone else?

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If God has the authority to create each and every one of us, does He not have equal authority to ‘receive us back’, in a manner of HIS choosing?
Sure. And you believe he had children ‘received back’ by someone hacking them to death. It’s an abbrogation of your humanity to effectively say ‘Hey, it wasn’t me. It was God’s decision’.

A decision with which you approve.
 
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Freddy:
Although I have just about given up on most people actually reading what I am writing.
We do. But you want to pretend that we don’t read what you wrote.
Well, if you did read it, you could answer the question I asked. Is it accurate that children were put to the sword at God’s command?
 
Well, if you did read it, you could answer the question I asked. Is it accurate that children were put to the sword at God’s command?
It seems you haven’t read what I wrote, because I already addressed that.
 
It’s an abbrogation of your humanity to effectively say ‘Hey, it wasn’t me. It was God’s decision’.
Clearly you haven’t been in a situation where you have to turn anyone in.
A decision with which you approve.
Our approval or disapproval isn’t a factor in God’s decisions He makes authoritatively.
 
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Freddy:
A decision with which you approve.
Our approval or disapproval isn’t a factor in God’s decisions He makes authoritatively.
That’s the point I have been making. If someone truly believes that they receive a command from God to do something that they would normally perceive as being evil, that’s exactly the response they would give. Effectively ‘It’s not my call - it’s God’s.’
 
If someone truly believes that they receive a command from God to do something
God commanding something and someone believing that they have a command from Him are not the same thing.
 
What you, and your church, thinks about personal revelation has no bearing at all on whether someone believes it or not.
I’m not talking about “private revelation”, I’m talking about “private interpretation of Scripture.” The Church holds that it is not a valid approach. So… it has great bearing on the discussion!
 
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Freddy:
What you, and your church, thinks about personal revelation has no bearing at all on whether someone believes it or not.
I’m not talking about “private revelation”, I’m talking about “private interpretation of Scripture.” The Church holds that it is not a valid approach. So… it has great bearing on the discussion!
What the church holds to is irrelevant if someone believes that they have received a command from God. And it’s irrelevant as to how people actually interpret scripture.

As we have seen in just this thread, we have people taking opposite views on this particlar matter. Has what the church holds to prevented that? Obviously not. And we are talking about what people believe. Not what the church says about the matter. And to clarify we’re not actually talking about specifically the Catholic church or Catholics either.
 
No, we aren’t asking for my approval, Freddy.

I’m asking you. Does God, who created us, have any ‘rights’ over us? Do those rights include the right, along with the right to give us life, to require the right of our death? Does God, in fact, not require of us both our lives and our deaths, either through His direct will or through His permissive will?

If God has a right to give us life and, as a direct result of that life, the consequence that at some point in time we WILL ALL DIE, then ‘how’ we die becomes a moot question.

Those who die comfortably in bed in their 90s after a rich full life are not somehow ‘better’ than those who die in their 40s from a painful disease after a difficult life. . .or those who die in their youth from accident, disease, famine, or war.

It seems to me that you are condemning God’s actions here as being immoral in His “choice’ of, in a situation of warfare (spiritual warfare as well as ‘temporal’), of having the ‘innocent’ be slaughtered along with the guilty; indeed, it appears that you have cast the Israelites as the guilty ones and the Canaanites one and all as innocent victims. . .victims of GOD, no less.

You are not seeing ‘the rest of the story’ and in fact you are firmly bound in a totally ‘natural’ world in which God is a creation of humanity (only obviously ‘bigger, stronger, faster’ and more powerful) yet not as ‘moral’ as modern man. Or, you appear to think that the God men created back when they weren’t as woke today wasn’t as ‘moral’ as man is today, which would explain those pesky Bible passages where God does these ‘terrible’ things to human beings. . .as if God were not ‘above’ humans but was then at best ‘equal to’ humanity (who created him) and, in modern times, LESS than humanity who are so very much more moral.

So is that the case? I mean, if you don’t believe that God is the creator of humanity then it’s no wonder you find him so much ‘less’ than the glorious humanity we have evolved to today.

But if you DO think He’s the creator, then it would be like an amoeba suddenly mouthing off at the King of the Universe complaining that its one cell was the height of perfection and how, in making other creatures ‘different’ the King had gone off his rocker and was obviously nowhere near as perfect as that very stable genius amoeba.
 
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What the church holds to is irrelevant if someone believes that they have received a command from God.
Not for a Catholic. We believe that we don’t have the right to interpret Scripture personally, and we know that “private revelation” doesn’t contradict God’s nature or doctrinal teaching.
And it’s irrelevant as to how people actually interpret scripture.
Again: not for Catholics. And, if you’re talking about how non-Catholics interpret Scripture, then you need to re-state your case, to something that shows that you’re not talking about Catholic beliefs.
 
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Freddy:
Because, and you seem not to understand this, it’s not relevant.
Like how someone saying that God told Him to do XYZ is not relevant to a clear command of God.
If I may, I’ll repeat something someone said earlier just to clarify that:

‘God commanding something and someone believing that they have a command from Him are not the same thing.’

Do you agree with that? I’d think that you would. The two things are completely different and do not depend on each other. So the fact that God can give any command He likes and someone believing that he has been given a command from God are not the same thing.
 
It seems to me that you are condemning God’s actions here as being immoral in His “choice’ of, in a situation of warfare, of having the ‘innocent’ be slaughtered along with the guilty; .
You must be confusing me with someone else. I don’t believe in God. So I can hardly condemn an action by someone I don’t think exists.

You really are missing the point. It’s not God I am condemning for issuing a command to hack children to death. It’s you I am condemning for arguing that it’s acceptable.
 
It’s you I am condemning for arguing that it’s acceptable.
Nope. It’s God, because it’s God’s command that you dispute.
So the fact that God can give any command He likes and someone believing that he has been given a command from God are not the same thing .
Good. Now you can quit moving the goal posts and detracting from the real issue.
 
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Freddy:
It’s you I am condemning for arguing that it’s acceptable.
Nope. It’s God, because it’s God’s command that you dispute.
The sixth time, I think:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT.

How about you print that out in a suitably large font and stick it to the front of your screen so you don’t forget it.
 
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