trth_skr:
First, as I said here,
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=709137&postcount=129
I try not to get caught up in the aetheistic ‘we are carbon based accidents floating through the void’ or ‘we are just dust in the wind’ type thinking spoon fed to us.
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com
Trth_stk et al, I think that I’m finally beginning to grasp with a more vibrant understanding “why” you along with other people remain creationists. Could it be that it’s difficult for creationists to envision the unseen becoming seen through an evolutionary process? I’m not making fun of you. Honest. It’s just that I’m really trying to figure out why there exists two opposite opinions on this topic. What you wrote drew me back to an article I recently read in the June issue of Discover magazine, “If An Electron Can Be in 2 Places at Once, Why Can’t YOU?” by Tim Folger. The article is about Sir Roger Penrose.
"Every possible quantum outcome really exists—but in worlds parallel to our own. In one universe, Penrose is talking with me in Oxford; in another, he is watching a monster-truck rally. From this perspective, people and particles behave much the same way. We just do not see them in many places at the same time because each potential location is tucked away in a different universe (see “Quantum Schmantum,” Discover, Septer 2001, posted on our Web site,
www.discover.com)).
"Pensrose cannot believe anyone finds either the Copenhagen interpretation or the many worlds picture satisfactory. “If you take the equations of quantum mechanics up to the level where you can actually see things going on, you’re driven to an absurd viewpoint. People are led into views of the world which are pretty fantastical. And rather than say, ‘This is a bit wild, let’s try to do something a bit more commonsense-ish,’ they come up with theories that are completely wild.” p.32-33
This excellent article continues on. There is mention of “Three Different Views of Quantum Weirdness (and What It Means)”
A. According to the orthodox view of quantum mechanics, called the Copenhagen interpretation, a system (represented here by a child’s block) does not occupy a dfinite state or location until it is meansured. Before then it is just a blur of overlapping possibilities.
B. The many worlds interpreation insists that the system occupies all its possible states but that every one of them exists in its own alternate universe. Each universe sees one state only, which is why we never observe the block in two sttes at once.
C. In Penrose’s interpreation, gravity holds our reality together. In each potential state, the block generates a separate gravitaional field. Over time, the energy required to mainain these multiple fields cause the block to settle into one state only – the one that we observe. p.g.32
On page 34: " What is consciousness? Penrose argues that it is a by-product of quantum mechanical processes operating in the brain. Some intriguing recent research supports his contention that microtubules—tiny structures in brain cells —can allow quantum phenomena to influence how neurons behave."
Dirk Bouwmeester, a former postdoc under Penrose who is now a professor of physics at the University of California at Santa Barbara has devised a way to test Penrose’s theory. “If Bouwmeester’s experiment succeeds, it will show that the fantasy of being in two places at the same time really is impossible. As a kind of compensation, it will also show that the number of places science can go is far greater than we have come to believe. Most physicists today trying to unite Einstein’s theory of gravity with quantum mechanics focus on microscopic realms beyond the reach of any conceivable experiment. Perhaps the solution that eluded Einstein is much closer at hand, in the strange territory where quantum mechanics just barely emerges into the human world.” p. 34.
I don’t know exactly why I’m drawn to share parts of this article with you. Perhaps you can tell me. One last thought, Mark what happens to the winds on planet Earth when the world revolves around it? Wouldn’t this have a different effect than what we experience ". . . when you see the south wind blow, you say, ‘There will be a scorching heat,’ … "
Please remember I am really trying my best to understand why your belief in Geocentrism is so strongly felt.
Thank you.