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The choices betweeen Romney and Gingrich aren’t that different.
They both would keep parts of Obamacare OR POSSIBLY THE WHOLE THING
Newt said there are parts of it that are pretty good, but it must be repealed entirely.

Both plan to repeal it.
 
Nationally, Gingrich doesn’t have a chance.
Nationally he had 37% to Romney’s 21% back in December.
But since this thread is all about the Georgia GOPAC Tick (Spinelus cavinien) aka Newt Gingrich, I thought I would bring to your attention just one inconvienent, relevant fact:
Gingrich voted $60 million to a UN program supporting abortion in China.
The ad says that Gingrich “co-sponsored a bill with Nancy Pelosi that would have given $60 million a year to a U.N. program supporting China’s brutal one-child policy.” Actually, the bill attempted to address climate change, and a third of House members were co-sponsors. The bill did propose money for the United Nations Population Fund, but it stated specifically that its funding could not be used for “involuntary sterilization or abortion or to coerce any person to accept family planning.” The ad’s claim rests on repeated distortions, so we rate the statement Pants on Fire!
politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jan/12/restore-our-future/newt-gingrich-nancy-pelosi-china-one-child-policy/

Sarah Palin: “If I were in South Carolina, I’d vote for Newt Gingrich”
youtube.com/watch?v=dFn46hz96CY

Evangelicals for Perry Endorses Newt Gingrich for President
evangelicals4perry.net/2012/01/evangelicals-for-perry-endorses-newt.html

Rep. Trent Franks Endorses Gingrich for President
newsmax.com/Politics/Rep-TrentFranksEndorsesGingrichforPresident/2012/01/13/id/424189

“Newt Gingrich’s singularly bold plan for economic recovery, his unmatched record of conservative achievement and job creation, his unwavering commitment to the core principles enshrined in our Constitution, and his unmatched debate skill means he is far and away the best Republican candidate to challenge and defeat Barack Obama this November.”

“Lastly, I believe Newt Gingrich’s plan to restore the proper role of the judicial branch under the Constitution is the most effective and well-thought out plan of any candidate seeking to address the heretofore unchallenged judicial oligarchy that has cost the lives of 50 million unborn children, has undermined American national security, and continues to threaten Americans’ most cherished values and religious liberty.”
 
Nationally he had 37% to Romney’s 21% back in December.
Yeah that was then, this is now. He hasn’t even begun to be vetted yet. If he was. He’d be even lower nationally.

Like Romney, Gingrich also hasn’t released his tax returns. He will though.
The ad says that Gingrich “co-sponsored a bill with Nancy Pelosi that would have given $60 million a year to a U.N. program supporting China’s brutal one-child policy.” Actually, the bill attempted to address climate change, and a third of House members were co-sponsors. The bill did propose money for the United Nations Population Fund, but it stated specifically that its funding could not be used for “involuntary sterilization or abortion or to coerce any person to accept family planning.” The ad’s claim rests on repeated distortions, so we rate the statement Pants on Fire!
politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jan/12/restore-our-future/newt-gingrich-nancy-pelosi-china-one-child-policy/
Sarah Palin: “If I were in South Carolina, I’d vote for Newt Gingrich”
youtube.com/watch?v=dFn46hz96CY
Evangelicals for Perry Endorses Newt Gingrich for President
evangelicals4perry.net/2012/01/evangelicals-for-perry-endorses-newt.html
“Newt Gingrich’s singularly bold plan for economic recovery, his unmatched record of conservative achievement and job creation**, his unwavering commitment to the core principles enshrined in our Constitution, and his unmatched debate skill means he is far and away the best Republican candidate to challenge and defeat Barack Obama this November.”**
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Yeah right. I really don’t like when endorsements are out as if they would change my mind as an informed voter or anyone else for that matter. It may work for some candidates. But with Newt? they are ultimately ineffective because of how toxic he is as among many voters they have a pre-conceived notion about him, whereas the other two, three GOP candidates they can change their minds about. Endorsements for Newt actually work in reverse. It makes you question the person endorsing Newt.

For instance saying, “Unwavering committment.” Gingrich was all over the place on mandates, global warming. He still is. For every endorsement. Santorum also has his endorsements. Yet they can say that Santorum has been the most consistent and Perry had Forbes endorsement as well look how convincing that was. It was great sounding, just like those Newt endorsements.

Santorum has a better plan than Gingrich and so did Perry. But the question still remains, can Gingrich beat Obama? Debates. Debates. Debates. That is fool’s gold.

“Lastly, I believe Newt Gingrich’s plan to restore the proper role of the judicial branch under the Constitution is the most effective and well-thought out plan of any candidate seeking to address the heretofore unchallenged judicial oligarchy that has cost the lives of 50 million unborn children, has undermined American national security, and continues to threaten Americans’ most cherished values and religious liberty.”
Yeah Right. Gingrich is status quo on Pro life on Social Issues. I don’t believe he’s sincere when he screws up such basics as Life Begins at CONCEPTION.

wdtprs.com/blog/2011/12/fr-z-about-and-to-mr-gingrich-implantation-not-conception/ His clean up work, was so sterile too… instead of it being an honest mistake. He used to be recently for Embryonic Stem Cells.

Even after converting, he endorsed Dede Scozafava. He’s not supposed to in good conscience endorse a pro-abort, pro gay marriage, knowingly, when there is a pro life , defender of marriage in the race and available.

Even Sarah Palin doesn’t know what she’s talking about with her endorsement, NOT endorsement of Newt. :rolleyes:

I doubt she can make an impact, because the candidate still has to ultimately sink or swim on his own. Her support for Newt is a little bit hypocritical since she says she’s for outsiders, reformers and against corruption. Not to mention the character issues that surround Mr. Gingrich to this day.

She is so behind since her debut in 2008.
 
You missed my point. By rehearsed, i mean Gingrich prepares himself to impress the crowd with his knowledge. Not because its necessarily relevant for the answer.

If you have to prove you know something, in spite of knowing it, Already?? Then you have some sort of insecurity still.

Newt used to be a professor. Some people print books and collect it together because its a good source of income.

In the world of academia, it’s not really that impressive over thirty years, this collection

Especially since he doesn’t really offer anything but recycled information.

For instance, his Global Warming book, was just fluff, and based on a trend.

There are many published nobodies. It’s not about volume…

For instance I would learn a lot more about Catholicism than from Newt Gingrich. Who knows how to collect source material, to compile his own book. NO THANKS. I’ll read other books. A supposed Catholic , who recently converted, talks on and on about John Paul II only to screw up and says
Life BEGINS AT IMPLANTATION…
Which Father Z has said was perplexing.

Newt knows how to get published that’s all.

Anyone can get a book publish given the tools. Look at all those comedians.

He may impress some of the people with this, pretense that he has to continually be seen as a big intellectual giant. But if you look closer he isn’t really this authentic giant. Unique individual. He just wants to carry himself as IF HE IS ONE.
He is just an intellectual politician with some complex.

And knowledge isn’t everything. You can know a lot, but it’s not a sign of good leadership.
So, one of his flaws is that he prepares.

I suppose, though, that preparation is better than just blindly reading from a teleprompter or making statements like “making the cost of electricity necessarily skyrocket”.

Ya know?
 
One major advantage that both GIngrich and Santorum would have in the general elecion is, they would be almost immune to the potential attacks from Democrats and even media who could come up with many deeper issues regarding Romney that might seem to get ignored now !

Looking at some of the 'exmormon 'sites would give us an idea !

The reported 1 billion dollar war chest of Obama may get put to many creative uses !

It already might be implementing such a master plan , primarily through the media , knowng well how Romney is very vulnerable and thus wanting him for the candidate !
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 Seeing that Romney is part of the main establishmnt of  a boat with a broken hull , who are intent on getting persons into same , without even  their full knowledge  and that even the Presidency would be most likley to serve  that agenda and that once in power, may be  very unpredicatble as to what extent the desire for control and power  would  guide events !
The recent past history of the group , in practices such as polygamy , which , in one sense is a desire for overcontrol over the weaker , as well as the belief system that pirdefully boasts about man being on equal footing with God, by stripping the Godliness of God , the belief system that has the bulit in mechanism to assign all who are not mormons , into an inferior category - not good for someone who , potentially is father figure for the country !

In Catholicism , on the otherhand , we know that God in His mercy can deal with all persons and situations and trustingly ask for His mercy , on all , as in Catholic / Universal
with the respectful desire of loving the neighbor as oneself and desiring for others what we know is best for all ! 🙂
 
Yeah, because Obama isn’t going to play the race card against Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

And this time…it will be the reverse effect of 2008’s election, where there won’t be backlash and cynicism.
Because Ron Paul really is connected to these extremist groups.

Another report was out today of more racist newsletters.

I don’t know what Ron Paul’s Internet Team think they’re doing by saying Ron Paul is the most pure bringing talking points and ad references against the other conservative canddiates,

but he can’t go far with Catholics. With his neo-Nazi, neo-Confederate , anti-semitic background and connections.

Let alone the extreme individualism, moral relativism applied through full blown, and perverted application of Libertarianism .

*’ Everybody is okay, as long as we don’t tell people about any responsibility, nor laws connected to moral order. As long as we aren’t hurting anyone directly. ’ *

Philosophy is at odds with the Faith.

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No offense, but this is probably one of the most ignorant posts I’ve seen in the news section.
 
This is what a good debate performance can do for a candidate:

The race for the Republican presidential nomination is now nearly even with Mitt Romney still on top but Newt Gingrich just three points apart.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters nationwide shows Romney with 30% support and Gingrich with 27% of the vote. Former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, who was running second two weeks ago, has now dropped to 15%.

rasmussenreports.com
 
This is what a good debate performance can do for a candidate:

The race for the Republican presidential nomination is now nearly even with Mitt Romney still on top but Newt Gingrich just three points apart.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters nationwide shows Romney with 30% support and Gingrich with 27% of the vote. Former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, who was running second two weeks ago, has now dropped to 15%.

rasmussenreports.com
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

If you compare the results to the last Rasmussen poll (Jan 4), Romney gained 1; Gingrich ganed 11…a second surge. Gingrich is correct, when he says Perry (same at 4%) and Santorum (dropped 5) should bow out.
 
If you compare the results to the last Rasmussen poll (Jan 4), Romney gained 1; Gingrich ganed 11…a second surge. Gingrich is correct, when he says Perry (same at 4%) and Santorum (dropped 5) should bow out.
After Saturday, someone will drop out. My guess it is Perry for financial reasons.
 
After Saturday, someone will drop out. My guess it is Perry for financial reasons.
Perry said this week that he is in for Florida.

I think he has plenty of money…although I am sure he is not getting many new donations.
 
One major advantage that both GIngrich and Santorum would have in the general elecion is, they would be almost immune to the potential attacks from Democrats and even media who could come up with many deeper issues regarding Romney that might seem to get ignored now !
Neither are even remotely immune. Gingrich has a lot of personal and political baggage from the past that the Dems will bring up if he was nominated. And as much as I love Santorum, I know very well that the left will call him a homophobe and racist because they have already done it. Of course it’s not true, but given the level of vitriol that Santorum has endured over the years from the homosexual lobby they would completely lose it if he was nominated. I’m still voting for him in the primary though. I just don’t have any illusions as to the tactics the Dems will use against both. And it’s going to play with many of the Catholics that voted for Obama last time, and even some independents.
 
That is the question. If not, then IMHO Mitt is it. Unless this tax issue or million dollar donations to the LDS Church somehow derails him.
They shouldn’t, but they might.
Neither will come up before he locks up the nomination, because he won’t release those details until April.

I think that the real problem will be that he is only paying 15% taxes because his income is in the form of “carried interest,” and not real investment income. This accounting trick allows him to treat what is essentially deffered compensation as investment income, even though he does not have any of his own money at risk. This revelation will spark a renewed debate over whether it makes sense to give the ultra-rich this gigantic tax loophole. He’ll survive it, though, because at the end of the day the American people will not fault him for taking advantage of a legal tax loophole. It may mean the end of carried interest, though.
 
Neither will come up before he locks up the nomination, because he won’t release those details until April.

I think that the real problem will be that he is only paying 15% taxes because his income is in the form of “carried interest,” and not real investment income. This accounting trick allows him to treat what is essentially deffered compensation as investment income, even though he does not have any of his own money at risk. This revelation will spark a renewed debate over whether it makes sense to give the ultra-rich this gigantic tax loophole. He’ll survive it, though, because at the end of the day the American people will not fault him for taking advantage of a legal tax loophole. It may mean the end of carried interest, though.
Romney said his annual income is “overwhelmingly from investments” rather than ordinary income, which is taxed at a higher rate.
 
Sarah Palin endorses Newt…sort of

“Ms. Palin, the former Alaska governor who ran for vice-president in in 2008, said that if she were a South Carolinian, “I would vote for Newt” in the state’s primary four days away. The Gingrich campaign instantly posted video of the endorsement, which Ms. Palin made in an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News that aired at 9 p.m.” - New York Times
 
Romney said his annual income is “overwhelmingly from investments” rather than ordinary income, which is taxed at a higher rate.
Yes, but by “investments,” I believe he means his carried interest income from Bain, which is treated as investment income in the tax code even though Romney himself has no underlying investment at risk. Under certain circumstances, the tax code allows fund managers to treat the pay they receive for managing the fund as investment income even though the underlying investment capital is someone else’s money. It’s a unique loophole available only to these very rich financial types, and its something most Americans have never heard of. I believe that Romney is still drawing carried interest from Bain, which would explain how a person with a reported net worth of around $200M is able to make over $20M a year in investment income in this economy–its actually money he is still earning from the funds he managed at Bain.

Again, this is not illegal, and I’m sure Romney did good work to earn that money. But its a giant tax loophole that most people don’t know about. It will cause a buzz when he finally releases his tax records, and will hopefully lead to a real conversation about how we tax income.
 
Neither will come up before he locks up the nomination, because he won’t release those details until April.

I think that the real problem will be that he is only paying 15% taxes because his income is in the form of “carried interest,” and not real investment income. This accounting trick allows him to treat what is essentially deffered compensation as investment income, even though he does not have any of his own money at risk. This revelation will spark a renewed debate over whether it makes sense to give the ultra-rich this gigantic tax loophole. He’ll survive it, though, because at the end of the day the American people will not fault him for taking advantage of a legal tax loophole. It may mean the end of carried interest, though.
Those Americans who are into class envy, and there seems to be too many of them, will fault Romney. I remind of the quote (paraphrased) by Dr.Walter Williams that if we get Obama again it will be because of the ignorance of the electorate on economics.
 
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