Given the principles of evolution, natural selection, survival of the fittest, etc, do you think belief in the supernatural will die out or become a m

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Somebody told me there’s a Noah’s ark theme park in Kentucky. Seems it was the brainchild of evangelicals, like the Discovery Institute. Apparently, while 600-year-old Noah and his sons made quick work of the original, this ark needed hundreds of builders with modern power tools and cranes and so on. And it’s got dinosaurs on it, because, well… I have no idea.
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For general information.

It is only the first three exciting chapters of Sacred Scripture which impact Catholic doctrines.

Everyone is on their own when it comes to Noah. However, Noah can present some interesting stuff. Stuff should not be confused with duly declared doctrines under the guidance of the promised Advocate.
 
grannymh said:
For general information.

It is only the first three exciting chapters of Sacred Scripture which impact Catholic doctrines.

Everyone is on their own when it comes to Noah. However, Noah can present some interesting stuff. Stuff should not be confused with duly declared doctrines under the guidance of the promised Advocate.
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Replicas of Noah’s Ark, built to scale, have been shown to be seaworthy.

Ed
 
edwest2 said:
Replicas of Noah’s Ark, built to scale, have been shown to be seaworthy.
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Reference please. I am aware of some calculations, but no tests on actual replicas.

An unpowered wooden boat that size would suffer horribly from hogging and sagging in any sort of seaway. It would broach as soon as the wind got up and be capsized by the waves hitting it broadside on. Yes, it could float in an absolutely calm sea. In anything more than that it wouldn’t last long.

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inocente said:
Somebody told me there’s a Noah’s ark theme park in Kentucky.
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There is. Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter.
And it’s got dinosaurs on it, because, well… I have no idea.
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Because dinosaurs are good box office I suspect. Gotta keep those punters rolling in. Cynical moi?

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rossum said:
There is. Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter.

Because dinosaurs are good box office I suspect. Gotta keep those punters rolling in. Cynical moi?

rossum
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You’re right, I looked it up. The ark has an onboard gift shop. Large range of biblical apparel, sacred stuffed animals and fudge (?!). The most exciting attractions are a petting zoo and zip lines. Correction, they’re the only attractions. I’m thinking the kids will prefer Euro Dollywood and the adults Las Vagas. Much more spiritual.
IWantGod said:
How did Noar get a T-Rex on the ark?
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With great difficulty.
 
inocente said:
Somebody told me there’s a Noah’s ark theme park in Kentucky. Seems it was the brainchild of evangelicals, like the Discovery Institute. Apparently, while 600-year-old Noah and his sons made quick work of the original, this ark needed hundreds of builders with modern power tools and cranes and so on. And it’s got dinosaurs on it, because, well… I have no idea.
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Yes I think there is a theme park where people are riding dinosaurs too. Love it!
 
Science can not show how life evolved from non-life. The Church does not disagree with micro-evolution. The founder of modern genetics Gregor Johann Mendel was an Augustinian friar.
 
ericc said:
The Church does not disagree with micro-evolution.
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The Church doesn’t disagree with macro-evolution either. The Church rejects Metaphysical Naturalism, not the theory of Evolution.
ericc said:
The founder of modern genetics Gregor Johann Mendel was an Augustinian friar.
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Thank God we have Catholics who don’t reject science when it causes them to reevaluate what they believe about the physical world.
 
ericc said:
Science can not show how life evolved from non-life. The Church does not disagree with micro-evolution. The founder of modern genetics Gregor Johann Mendel was an Augustinian friar.
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Mendel’s pea plant experiments conducted between 1856 and 1863 established many of the rules of heredity, now referred to as the laws of Mendelian inheritance

Please note that plant experiments are not in the Science of Human Evolution. It is the population stipulation in the Science of Human Evolution which attacks the Catholic doctrines surrounding Original Sin.
 
IWantGod said:
The Church doesn’t disagree with macro-evolution either. The Church rejects Metaphysical Naturalism, not the theory of Evolution.

Thank God we have Catholics who don’t reject science when it causes them to reevaluate what they believe about the physical world.
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Science? No, just this particular subject. Science is missing crucial information to provide anyone with what they need to know about who human beings are. No reevaluation required. Our perceptions do not need to be managed by strangers.

Ed

What we believe about the physical world is being manipulated. And not for the better.
 
grannymh said:
Mendel’s pea plant experiments conducted between 1856 and 1863 established many of the rules of heredity, now referred to as the laws of Mendelian inheritance

Please note that plant experiments are not in the Science of Human Evolution. It is the population stipulation in the Science of Human Evolution which attacks the Catholic doctrines surrounding Original Sin.
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Noted, I am aware of that. Anyway I was trying to highlight the topic of how science created life out of non-life appears largely muted. You can’t have evolution without life in the first place. If one can get past stage one, then one can attempt to explain stage 2 which is how life became differentiated into different species. This one seems unsupported by fossil evidence but supported by nice graphics showing how maybe it happened in a particular sequence. Stage 3 of micro-evolution is well documented which the Church accepts. If science can prove stage 2, I believe the Church can accept it if it is true.

I used to trust my science textbooks about the origins of life. Later I found out that those nice graphics were largely works of artists that filled up fragments of bones with their favorite images of what they think should look like. One was outright fraud which for decades still remained taught even after it was discovered to be fraudulent decades ago. Putting a series of pictures that show the ape to human progression is not scientific proof that it actually happened that way. Showing DNA similarities between different species is not proof that one evolved to the other. One can also posit that common DNA lego blocks were used to assemble different life forms using slight variations to achieve different species.
 
ericc said:
Noted, I am aware of that. Anyway I was trying to highlight the topic of how science created life out of non-life appears largely muted. You can’t have evolution without life in the first place. If one can get past stage one, then one can attempt to explain stage 2 which is how life became differentiated into different species. This one seems unsupported by fossil evidence but supported by nice graphics showing how maybe it happened in a particular sequence. Stage 3 of micro-evolution is well documented which the Church accepts. If science can prove stage 2, I believe the Church can accept it if it is true.

I used to trust my science textbooks about the origins of life. Later I found out that those nice graphics were largely works of artists that filled up fragments of bones with their favorite images of what they think should look like. One was outright fraud which for decades still remained taught even after it was discovered to be fraudulent decades ago. Putting a series of pictures that show the ape to human progression is not scientific proof that it actually happened that way. Showing DNA similarities between different species is not proof that one evolved to the other. One can also posit that common DNA lego blocks were used to assemble different life forms using slight variations to achieve different species.
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👍 It is incredible how the term “evolution” is regarded as an adequate explanation of all living beings including those who regard evolution as the sole explanation of their existence…:whacky:
 
tonyrey said:
👍 It is incredible how the term “evolution” is regarded as an adequate explanation of all living beings including those who regard evolution as the sole explanation of their existence…:whacky:
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I think maybe the standard for credibility has been set by creationists for believing a 600-year-old man got a pair of T-Rex to board an ark he built, to save them from a global flood 1,656 years after the big bang. A flood they say happened 4,365 years ago when people lived 900 years.
 
inocente said:
I think maybe the standard for credibility has been set by creationists for believing a 600-year-old man got a pair of T-Rex to board an ark he built, to save them from a global flood 1,656 years after the big bang. A flood they say happened 4,365 years ago when people lived 900 years.
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With God all things are possible.

The only credible way evolution could happen, is if God made it happen.
 
Eric_Hyom said:
With God all things are possible.

The only credible way evolution could happen, is if God made it happen.
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Indeed. It is a directed process of development which couldn’t exist without a Supreme Mind. Only atheists believe it is a product of mindless events.
 
Eric_Hyom said:
With God all things are possible.

The only credible way evolution could happen, is if God made it happen.
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Interesting thought.

However, credible evolution, when one actually understands it, contains an opposition to Catholic teachings. :mad:
 
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