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That’s what I wondered, lol. There’s a few shooting team guys at my local range who might come close. Not me. I’ve got a Taurus 605, a Colt clone and a single action birdshead Ruger in .45 ACP. 10 yards, max and in a “situation” I’d want to be closer.
I’d like to get another Henry Big Boy, a .357. Wonderfully accurate lever gun. And if the far left snowflakes ever succeed in taking guns away, single actions will be the last on the list.
 
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Oh, Biggie and Tupac were sent to their graves with pea shooters. .380s if memory serves.

Until Glock came along, .38 was the standard police weapon for decades.
 
Im all for it.

Single action should be the quintessential civilian weapon.
 
Especially if tube fed, that’s pretty typical for levers. Banding anything to a barrel inherently reduces accuracy, even if really stiffened.

If you need 2 moa or better I suggest a bolt gun.
 
Believe it or not, the felt recoil on the Henry Big Boy in .44 Magnum is less than the .30-30. Velocity, I guess. I had a Marlin .30-30 short barrel for a while. Kicked my shoulder pretty good.
 
I’m fine with it. A snubbie takes considerably more practice, particularly with .357s. But there’s a lot less to go wrong than with a semi and it can be fired from a jacket pocket.
 
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Gotta have the SA option. And in Stainless, not polymer.
Not a beginner self defense weapon though. A lot of them get returned after one outing. Especially the aluminum and polymer models.
 
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MonteRCMS said:
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Call me a skeptic. Defensive gun use is not the same as people who use their gun for defense. The first requires shooting it; the later merely a statement that it is defensive. I got turned off by the total lack of facts and data on this bloggie thing (it is just some guy writing stuff that could be as fictional as any fantasy novel), as well as the recruitment for the John Birch Society.
 
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The perp got ten years. He broke through three doors trying to get at mom and her children. She had a .38 so five rounds is not alarming at all.
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and 5 rounds didn’t kill him, if he wasn’t alone they could have been…
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So let’s make this simple. Would a better scenario have been if he couldn’t gain access to the house?
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yes, it would be better. however, your precautions don’t always work. a podcast, gun-for-hire, has cops on it all the time going over real case crime scenarios and how to defend against them. they described something similar to your house that is so secure. they said all the perp does is innocently approach you while you open the door with your hands full then pokes a gun in your back and forces you inside.

how secure is your garage door to your house? one group was going around drilling a hole in a garage door (your car outside is used to block their activity) inserting a grabber tool in and pulling the cord release than just opening the garage door and usually the inside door is unlocked.

gun-for-hire is broadcast out of new jersey and new jersey gun control has made it very easy for the perp to have the upper hand.
 
Examples of self-defense are reported in the Armed Citizen section of the NRA Web page,

click here NRA-ILA | Armed Citizen®?

The NRA monthly magazine always has a page of news reports of people who used a gun to protect themselves.

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An Official Journal Of The NRA | Gun Control Won't Stop Crime

What was true on February 13 was still true on February 15: Restricting lawful gun ownership won’t stop mass murderers.
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pnewton said:
Defensive gun use is not the same as people who use their gun for defense. The first requires shooting it …
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Would the armed, practicing Catholic in a “him or me” confrontation shoot or would the Catholic’s moment of natural hesitation to kill (albeit, kill an unjust aggressor) give the sociopath (who does not hesitate) the fatal split-second advantage? My answer is, “Yes, the hesitating Catholic is likely dead.”

But I believe if that sociopath threatens those for whose care the Catholic is responsible then his natural instinct to hesitate would disappear.
 
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Call me a skeptic. Defensive gun use is not the same as people who use their gun for defense. The first requires shooting it; the later merely a statement that it is defensive. I got turned off by the total lack of facts and data on this bloggie thing (it is just some guy writing stuff that could be as fictional as any fantasy novel), as well as the recruitment for the John Birch Society.
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Defensive gun use (DGU) has a rather specific definition. According to this definition DGUs occur about 2.5M times a year in the US.

Questions about the details of DGU incidents permitted us to establish whether a given DGU met all of the following qualifications for an incident to be treated as a genuine DGU: (1) the incident involved defensive action against a human rather than an animal, but not in connection with police, military, or security guard duties; (2) the incident involved actual contact with a person, rather than merely investigating suspicious circumstances, etc.; (3) the defender could state a specific crime which he thought was being committed at the time of the incident; (4) the gun was actually used in some way-at a minimum it had to be used as part of a threat against a person, either by verbally referring to the gun (e.g., “get away-I’ve got a gun”) or by pointing it at an adversary. We made no effort to assess either the lawfulness or morality of the Rs’ defensive actions. (Kleck & Gertz)
 
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Would the armed, practicing Catholic in a “him or me” confrontation shoot or would the Catholic’s moment of natural hesitation to kill (albeit, kill an unjust aggressor) give the sociopath (who does not hesitate) the fatal split-second advantage? My answer is, “Yes, the hesitating Catholic is likely dead.”

But I believe if that sociopath threatens those for whose care the Catholic is responsible then his natural instinct to hesitate would disappear.
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Often just showing your weapon does cause a retreat, no shots fired. Whether a split second matters would vary with the actual situation. Clearly many people get away with it because they show their weapon without immediately firing.

Also, shooting someone doesn’t equal killing them. Incapacitate and call an ambulance.
 
Here is why I ignore that article. If there was a year with 2 million plus defensive uses, that means there would be over one hundred times someone used a fire arm to stop a murderer, for every successful murder. The number is simply absurdly high. Here, which is all I know, there are far few uses of firearms defensively for every offensive use. So I consider that whole article a pack of lies.
 
Whatever we do with semiautomatic weapons, we need to prevent this, at all costs!
 
Yes. In CCW courses and elsewhere we are taught to render first aid to the perp, after calling 911.
 
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Why do you only connect it with murder?
That is extremely bad logic, and very self serving.

My brother in law stopped a robbery just by showing he was armed.
At the end of the day, there was nothing to report to the police.

At most I would argue that some people are exaggerating, and not all the incidents would have ended up with a crime reported.
 
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