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Similarly 100% of bear maulings happen outdoors.
They’re still wildly unlikely events.
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They’re still wildly unlikely events.
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My dear Lord, isn’t THAT the truth.Ender:
When the facts don’t support preconceived opinions, some just fall back on this tactic
Oh…
We’re talking about differen’t people, aren’t we?
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I know this is going to throw of your stats but apparently bear maulings happen indoors as well… It’s just not safe to be home anymore… 
Man mauled to death by captive grizzly in Montana
www.foxnews.com
Man mauled to death by captive grizzly in Montana
Man mauled to death by captive grizzly in Montana
The trainer at a Montana wildlife casting agency where a man was fatally mauled while cleaning a grizzly pen says the victim may have fallen and hit his head or otherwise lost consciousness before he was killed.
www.foxnews.com
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Vonsalza
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Interesting you guys are still talking about this…
It would be pertinent to note that a “DGU” does not have to correspond with an actual crime. It only requires that the defender perceive a threat and report it and think their gun played some kind of role.
Before he passed, my uncle reported several of these in the last years of his life - .32 ACP in-hand. They were, without exception, kids who used his 1.1 mile driveway to test their cars/motorcycles; NOT the “street gangs” he suspected were scoping his house and trying to intimidate him.
His reports still would have met the criteria of a “DGU”, unfortunately…
It would be pertinent to note that a “DGU” does not have to correspond with an actual crime. It only requires that the defender perceive a threat and report it and think their gun played some kind of role.
Before he passed, my uncle reported several of these in the last years of his life - .32 ACP in-hand. They were, without exception, kids who used his 1.1 mile driveway to test their cars/motorcycles; NOT the “street gangs” he suspected were scoping his house and trying to intimidate him.
His reports still would have met the criteria of a “DGU”, unfortunately…
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Oh, and to be sure, there have been instances of a home invasion attempt where the targets weren’t home.I know this is going to throw of your stats but apparently bear maulings happen indoors as well… It’s just not safe to be home anymore…
I guess they’re both stupid claims.
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Those are classified as Breaking and Entering, since no one was home. Sometimes bears do that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...2ab5745db2e_video.html?utm_term=.b070abef3bf7
https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...2ab5745db2e_video.html?utm_term=.b070abef3bf7
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Vonsalza
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Sure. They’re usually classified as something else because few places have a charge called “home invasion”…
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TheOldColonel
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If what you say is true, then more home invasions take place than the records reflect.
But this is really my worst fear…
But this is really my worst fear…
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Vonsalza
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Oh no, I’m sure folks who try to record that stuff are well aware. Forced entry and subsequent rape would be considered a “home invasion”, even if there was no specific charge for that.
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I’m very sorry, but I’m all out of bear videos.
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Oh, come now… stop posting old propaganda videos from the Red Army 
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TheOldColonel
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You caught me RED handed, soldier!
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Bear, meet .45-70.
.45-70, bear.
Bear, meet .45-70.
.45-70, bear.
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Relax Comrade. Bear is good friend of many peoples…
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Reminds me of a tip, horseradish vodka - try it if you get a chance.
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Vonsalza
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Horseradish vodka?
That WOULD be rather “grizzly”.
That WOULD be rather “grizzly”.
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There are dozens of articles referring to the hidden CDC study; these are only a few from non-blogger sources.
Newly Released Gov't Study Shows Overwhelming Number of Shootings Are Defensive
The CDC conducted this research years ago, but never shared it with the American people.
www.westernjournal.com
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cdc-gun-study-shocking-finding/
CDC Buried Data Supporting Defensive Use of Firearms - Utah Standard News
Tuesday, 24 April 2018 CDC Buried Data Supporting Defensive Use of Firearms Written by Bob Adelmannat New American Gary Kleck, a criminologist now retired from Florida State University, was likely astonished to learn that his controversial study, The National Self-Defense Survey, was accurate...
www.utahstandardnews.com
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You seem to imagine the CDC commissioned these studies with a pro-gun agenda, and then changed their minds after the research was completed. I find that approach very hard to believe, the CDC has never leaned right on this issue.
I think the CDC commissioned basic research, not with a pro-gun agenda, and were surprised by the results. Your interpretation is akin to putting your head in the sand.
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