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nickybr38
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I mean, that’s possible most of the time but not all things can be given a natural explanation. A bump in the night, yes. A shadow in the corner of your eye, easily explainable… but some things go beyond that.
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nickybr38
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My cousin has one of these attached to him. I always used to wonder why I was so uncomfortable in his presence until I saw ‘it’ one day. That was the scariest thing. Middle of the afternoon, bright daylight, and I saw this… thing, standing behind him. It was horrible and it and I stared at each other for some time before it just kind of… ‘blinked’ out of sight.
In these cases what can be done to help the person? My cousin is a very troubled young man. I spent many long hours in prayer for him after I saw that… thing behind him. I do believe I was granted a glimpse so I WOULD pray but is that all that can be done?
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ringil
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Yes, a FEW things among a few people go beyond that.
I just don’t believe all of the events reported here are supernatural and I’ve read a bit on the subject, though I’m, by no means, any kind of expert in the area.
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nickybr38
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We can’t judge what was supernatural or not if we weren’t there. There’s absolutely no way to test things through just hearing a story.
It’s better to err on the side of compassion then on the side of doubt because doubt can be very damaging to someone who is scared and confused.
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CatholicFireman
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That’s your take on what I posted. Not mine. I’d appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. Or assuming that I’m trying to “forment dispair”.
I didn’t realise you were the local authority on the subject.
As for my post. I rest my case.
Have fun in the thread. I won’t waste my time feeding into the “fray”.
po18guy
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Living in comfortable denial of the occult makes one more susceptible to it, don’t you think? How much of Catholic teaching are you willing to ignore in your quest for spiritual comfort?
From the Saint of the Day (Saint Anthony of Egypt) from American Catholic (emphasis mine):
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ringil
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'm not ignoring any Catholic dogma. Where would you get that?
Demons are real and demonic activity is real. It is just rare and as I have read from exorcists, reports of it are usually mistaken or even fabricated.
I’ve read all of Armorth’s books, the Malachi Martin book on the subject, The Demonologist by Gerald Brittle, The Training of an Exorcist, and a few others. I don’t read any books written by Protestants on the subject.
po18guy
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To me, the general tone of your post came across as dismissive in nature. Could be my bad, I don’t know. Good that you have read up on it. Not so good if you are left with the thought that demonic activity is rare or seldom encountered. Possession is rare and no one here has alleged otherwise.
As to demonic activity, we do not recognize all of its forms, but we can be assured that it remains among us.
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MissBorgia
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Satan and his imps know that I have their number, and they dare not touch me. Am better rooted in my faith now than I was then. What you said about the final hour is very very profound to me. I left the nationality of this person dying next to me out of the post so I do not offend anyone. Feel free to PM me and I would be happy to elaborate more, it would make things a bit more clear as to the manifestation.
po18guy
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Just don’t let your guard down. He wants you. I find that he is often waiting just outside of the confessional.
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MissBorgia
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That he is. ever aware.
po18guy
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I am going to begin walking backward out of the confessional, so that he might think I am heading in and leave me alone!
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MissBorgia
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there is no doubt in my mind what so ever that Satan is a mind reader.
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fred_conty
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We had a priest who came to our Catholic High School for a retreat.
He was an excorcist. He said that he gave communion to Catholics in a
mental institution. When he walked down the halls with the Blessed Eucharist
he would hear the weirdest, loudest, noises as he passed by some of the
patient’s rooms. These screams were nothing he had ever heard. After he
had given out the Ecuharist to the patients, he walked back to exit the
building, but never heard these noises on his way out.
Just a thought that makes you think.
He was an excorcist. He said that he gave communion to Catholics in a
mental institution. When he walked down the halls with the Blessed Eucharist
he would hear the weirdest, loudest, noises as he passed by some of the
patient’s rooms. These screams were nothing he had ever heard. After he
had given out the Ecuharist to the patients, he walked back to exit the
building, but never heard these noises on his way out.
Just a thought that makes you think.
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Bob_Crowley
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We are not putting importance on it. We are** honestly **describing our experiences.
I fail to see what is wrong with that.
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Bob_Crowley
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No, I do not think it was all in my head. For one thing I had no idea he’d just died - his body wasn’t found for four days more, and I still remember being told by my mother’s brother. When the penny dropped, I also remember standing there, turning towards the bedroom, counting back four days, and thinking, “Then what the hell was that the other night?” I remember the terrifying scream, and a considerable amount of what we said. And I do not remember dreams. And as an atheist, the very last thing I was thinking about was the possibility of a spiritual encounter.
And I didn’t ask for it - God can do what He likes.
I’ll give you a little anecdote which indicates why I think it happened. I drove a cab part time for a few years. One night I was in the suburb where my father died, called Nundah. He died in a unit at No. x, Rivington Street, Nundah.
So I prayed for some sort of “sign” that there was some truth to what my father said that night. I got this sense back that I ought to know better than to ask for a “sign”, but I persisted anyway.
Some time later that same night I was sitting on the Queen Street rank in the city, when a bloke walked up a bit the worse for wear, hopped in the back, and said “Nundah”. I asked him whereabouts in Nundah, and he replied, “Just drive. I’ll tell you where to go.”
So off we went. We ended up at No. (x-1) Rivington Street, Nundah. In other words, directly across the road from the very unit where my father died.
You can write it off as coincidence. I don’t.
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exoflare
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I think she meant, how did you reconcile this experience right afterward with your continued atheism? Like did you explain to yourself at that time that it must have all been in your head?
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Bob_Crowley
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At the time I didn’t want to believe it. I was an atheist, and this went counter to my whole prevailing ethos. Secondly he just appeared in my room. Even though during the discussion at one stage I blurted out, “What is this!! Some sort of dream or something?” to which he looked a bit bemused, and replied, “No, it’s not a dream. I died tonight.”
But I’d no proof he’d died. We were basically estranged and I hadn’t spoken to him for 12 months, I did see him walking down a street about six months before as I was driving, but I didn’t indicate I’d seen him, and I’m pretty sure he didn’t see me.
I do remember getting this sort of impulse I should go and see him a few days before he died, but I refused. It was fairly insistent, and I wondered where it came from, but I resisted it. I think you could say I couldn’t stand him. He’d just been too cruel for too long, and I wanted nothing to do with him.
So it seems he came to me instead, starting with an apology, and saying I needed to forgive him, not for his sake, but for my own, or “you’ll destroy yourself!”.
And I don’t care how many doubting Thomases there are. I know what I saw and heard and said. And I know there’s a judgement - I still remember the absolutely terrifying scream, and he could obviously see something coming for him, and whatever it was it terrified him to the core. He was literally shaking in every part of his body.
Christ wasn’t warning us for no reason. The business of hell isn’t just hot air.
Just why I had this experience and others don’t, I don’t know. But then why were 3 poor children chosen to see Mary at Fatima (and 2 of them were dead within a couple of years), or a deaf nun at Akita, or a virtually illiterate girl at Lourdes, and nobody else? Of the 300 million people in the world at Christ’s time, why was an impulsive fisherman named Simon called to become Peter? Or Judas the one “who must be lost”? Or Ananias and Sapphira the only two killed on the spot for lying to the Holy Spirit?
We don’t know.
In one way though, it’s not really such a big deal. The spiritual world is around us at all times, mostly hidden, but sometimes it breaks through in ways we don’t expect. It’s the unexpectedness that makes it seem surprising, but if you accept that the spiritual world is as real as you are, then what’s the big deal really?
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Anathama_Sit
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I am going to begin walking backward out of the confessional, so that he might think I am heading in and leave me alone!
Let me know how that works for ya.
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BWENEATA_IOAKIM
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most of the time during charismatic prayer (through vision). they may even doing something terrible that time( very real), but their nothing if you ask jesus to throw them to hell.
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