Heated Oval Office meeting included talk of special counsel, martial law as Trump advisers clash

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vz71 said:
I do not consider CNN to be a credible source.
Do you have another outlet with the story
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Uhm, seriously?

I posted tweets from two of the conspirators explaining the plot. Is that good enough!
 
PaulinVA said:
Uhm, seriously?
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Yeah.
I have found CNN to be lacking in facts too many times to consider them a valid source for news.
PaulinVA said:
I posted tweets from two of the conspirators explaining the plot. Is that good enough!
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I saw nothing of a “conspiracy” there.
I did see a call towards perfectly legal action.

Maybe I missed it. Show me the illegal activity.
 
vz71 said:
It is un-American to utilize the laws to ones best advantage?
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It is un-American to not accept the results of a free and fair election.

It is un-American to entertain suggestions of martial law in the Oval Office from a disgraced admitted felon.

It is un-American to file dozens of court suits that are thrown out faster than the next one is filed. The goal is to weaken Americans’ trust in the voting process.

So, the MI AG is filing to sanction Sidney Powell. Newsmax and Fox have run packages that forcefully retract/distance themselves from the allegations against Smartmatic and Dominion.

So, yes, un-American.
 
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With a slight apparent touch of insurrection.
 
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PaulinVA said:
It is un-American to not accept the results of a free and fair election.
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Assuming it was free and fair.
It is not un-American to question if there are doubts.

What it really comes down to is that Trump is not acting the way you want him to.
Therefore you brand him with ad hominems.
PaulinVA said:
The goal is to weaken Americans’ trust in the voting process.
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No, that is what you believe the goal is.
You are no mind reader.
You have no evidence at all for this conjecture.

Unless you can provide a specific violation of the law, then the only conclusion is that he is obeying the laws of this country.

There is nothing un-American about following the law.
 
vz71 said:
Just emphasizing again.
Following the law is somehow…un-American?
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Abusing the legal system to attempt to overturn a free and fair election is indeed un-American.

Over the past month and a half 60 or more lawsuits have been thrown out of court. There is no widespread fraud. None.

That is why there are retractions. That’s why there are sanctions in the works.
 
And appointing Sidney Powell as Special Council would also be a huge conflict of interest too, as the Dominion vote switching theory generated with her.
 
If Trump is not legally allowed to live at Mar-a-lago but that is what he used as his residence to vote, does that mean he voted illegally?

Should we throw out Florida votes?
 
sallybutler said:
If Trump is not legally allowed to live at Mar-a-lago but that is what he used as his residence to vote, does that mean he voted illegally?

Should we throw out Florida votes?
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Interesting thought pattern.
 
Yes. But I have never seen him do anything to indicate that he plans to attempt to stay beyond his legal term. The only people talking about this wild accusation are his detractors.
 
PaulinVA said:
Abusing the legal system to attempt to overturn a free and fair election is indeed un-American.
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Anyone is free to file a law suit.
It is not illegal or un-American to do so.

It is, however, un-American to attempt to deny someone this freedom.
 
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