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PaulinVA
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We obviously disagree on what’s going on.
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Heated Oval Office meeting included talk of special counsel, martial law as Trump advisers clash
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tomarin
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I guess anyone is free to overturn by legalistic means an election that he lost fair and square, but it’s still scary and ominous and yes, unAmerican. Trump should accept his defeat and move on.
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sallybutler
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Actually I don’t think you can file a law suit anytime you want to. When the government give special liability protections – such as to nursing homes and schools regarding Covid infections – you can’t sue if you or someone suffers the injuries that are being exempted.
If the election results can be legally overturned, then it is, by definition, legal.I guess anyone is free to overturn by legalistic means an election that he lost fair and square
And also, if the courts find legal reasons to toss out the results, then the results were neither fair or square.
You can sue.you can’t sue if you or someone suffers the injuries that are being exempted.
You just won’t get very far.
Really…I think you are conflating the content of a suit with the ability to file.Not true,
It is not illegal to file a suit.
It may be illegal to file a false report…which is what may be going on there.
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tomarin
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And what does Trump’s track record in the courts tell you about the prevalence of voter fraud in this election?
Don’t forget he wanted state legislatures controlled by Republicans to appoint electors, to get around the fact that he lost those states. He’s been using pressure tactics to get Republican officeholders and judges to overturn the election, since he lost it fair and square. He wants to subvert American democracy, pure and simple. It’s not working, thankfully.
Don’t forget he wanted state legislatures controlled by Republicans to appoint electors, to get around the fact that he lost those states. He’s been using pressure tactics to get Republican officeholders and judges to overturn the election, since he lost it fair and square. He wants to subvert American democracy, pure and simple. It’s not working, thankfully.
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PaulinVA
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But haven’t the opportunities for that passed?And also, if the courts find legal reasons to toss out the results, then the results were neither fair or square
59 suits later, it’s time to stop.
Is completely irrelevant to whether he has legal recourse and the resources to pursue it.And what does Trump’s track record in the courts tell you about the prevalence of voter fraud in this election?
If he wants to fight in court, let him.
What is the problem with letting him do so?
Again, what is the problem with letting him exercise his rights?But haven’t the opportunities for that passed?
59 suits later, it’s time to stop.
What bizarro world is it where people claim you un-American for exercising a legal right?
What does it say for those that want to stop him from exercising this right?
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PaulinVA
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When the suits are filled with lies and conspiracy theories and no actual facts. When they keep getting tossed out.What bizarro world is it where people claim you un-American for exercising a legal right?
What does it say for those that want to stop him from exercising this right?
You have a legal right to sue if you have standing and have facts supporting your case.
That isn’t evident here.
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Dovekin
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The ACLU has been asking these questions for years.What bizarro world is it where people claim you un-American for exercising a legal right?
What does it say for those that want to stop him from exercising this right?
For almost as long, people have objected to them exercising their rights because they are un-American.
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TMC
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That is like defending car theft by saying that driving a car is not illegal.Really…I think you are conflating the content of a suit with the ability to file.
It is not illegal to file a suit.
It may be illegal to file a false report…which is what may be going on there.
So you say.That isn’t evident here.
He feels different, and has the resources to pursue it.
What’s the problem?
But it’s not.That is like defending car theft by saying that driving a car is not illegal.
Your analogy fails in many ways.
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TMC
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Really. Can you name a few, because I can’t. Its the same principle. Something can be legal when done properly, and illegal when done improperly. Which doesn’t even reach the fact that some things can be legal and still inappropriate.But it’s not.
Your analogy fails in many ways.
Is inappropriate the same as illegal?Which doesn’t even reach the fact that some things can be legal and still inappropriate.
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OraLabora
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Most likely he’s hoodwinked others into giving him the resources to pursue it.He feels different, and has the resources to pursue it.
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PaulinVA
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Nope. …Is inappropriate the same as illegal?
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TMC
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No, of course not. Why would you think that was true?Is inappropriate the same as illegal?
Would you deny him the right to petition to the court?Most likely he’s hoodwinked others into giving him the resources to pursue it.
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