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This sickens me, and though I’m not God to judge, satanists have already sealed their fate and will have eternal damnation.

Tollerance for religions are fine, I respect them all. However; tolerance for those who go against everything our beliefs stand for should not be allowed. Thats just my opinion.

Typical brainwahsed teenagers, I pity all those who are so blinded by the truth.
 
So OP u want to follow Beelzebub…

Beezelbub is a creation of a Higher Being

Wouldnt one normally worship the most Highest being?

What attracts you to Beelzebub rather than the Higher God who created him?

Or is it that you dont believe in a Higher God who created beelz…?

If you prefer to follow and offer incense and praise to a lesser being rather than a Higher Authority than thats totally up to you man.

Your probably aware of how the followers of the Higher God think towards Beezlebub recognising him as horrid or unkind or downright wicked and rebellious,do you believe him to be any of those traits? and if you do and want to be like him then again you are totally free to do so…

The Higher God has spoken out in regards to Beezlebub and to what end him and his followers will have,he has said he will end up in a not so nice place and end up in torment with all his followers…

So man if you go along with any of this and possibly give any credit to the word of a Higher authoritive Being ,and if you still would say ,yeah man im in for any life forever in torment and bad place ,then what can anyone say man,good luck and happy feelings.

🙂
 
JMJ, I don’t ask for “high respect” I’m just asking for tolerance, do not insult my religion, please. I noticed some people are still saying I worship Satan, that I do not.

I realize Satanism did not come out of thin air, but LeVay believed that Satan, or Lucipher, or EA, or Enki, was the representation of human nature and our desires. He took it as a metaphor, rather than something literal.
I also believe very strongly in a certain tolerance towards individuals’ opinions on topics that are worth discussing, but which nonetheless have very little objective truth which can be clearly seen by all. I am especially tolerant of such opinions and musings, if they are well-founded in a deep education or expertise, be it through a university or personal study.

However, let’s be very clear: the form of ‘religion’ which you follow is one which is very often ridiculed by those who observe it, whether they be religious or not, and for multiple reasons ranging from a perception of simplistic and puerile philosophical vein in your form of Satanism, to a generalisation of the sort of personality who would be attracted to the ‘metaphor’ of Satan, to an observation that LaVey was an admitted con-artist whose income largely came from manipulation, and who spent his time in the basement of his ‘black house’ playing keyboards for his mannequins.

Let’s also be very clear that despite the fact that it was a fake name, you are not spelling ‘LaVey’ correctly, which certainly makes you appear to know very little about your ‘religion’; it is as if you have seen the name very little.

But I will pose a question to you: have you researched LaVey’s major influences, and what do you know of them? His ‘philosophy’ has been largely lifted from the pages of books written by Ayn Rand, as he himself admitted, which he dumbed down by making more simplistic, and to which he assigned ‘satanic’ imagery for the purpose of drawing the eyes of individuals whose wallets might be of some use to the man. What have you read of Rand and Objectivism?
 
In point of fact, there is another question which I would like to ask. How many LaVeyan Satanists have you met offline, face-to-face? What sort of people were they? Those within the Church of Satan will claim that even mature thinkers, who are educated, and who have accomplished something of merit in life, who are even ‘mainstream’ and who raise children, are attracted to the thought of LaVey. Does this claim conform to the people who you have met?

I will say that, contrariwise, those members of the CoS whom I have met, and yes, I have met some, fit instead into the sort of cliched perception which many will already make of Satanists. I understand that many wish to be taken seriously as strong-willed intellectuals who command a certain respect, but this desire simply is not met by those whom Satanists, consciously or not, should like to impress. I have found those people to have traits like these:
  • They have very little formal education, and are thus largely unemployable, just as LaVey himself was. Those whom I have met have standard jobs in, say, retail environments, and earn very little money per annum. How does this relate to their philosophy as being a sort of Uebermensch who has material power and control over others?
  • They are usually young, male, and very much so interested in forms of expression which communicate angst, anger, and dissatisfaction with the world around them. They seemingly try very hard to ‘stand out’ from the ‘Christian-inspired sheep’ around them; and they blend in with each other, finding a certain ‘originality’ in gothic or rivethead inspired ‘fashion’.
  • They are usually very angry with Christianity, because they find within it a string of tenets which they perceive as being hypocritical and stupid; indeed, because they fancy themselves original and intelligent, usually very highly so, they feel they are far above such a ‘primitive’ and ‘anti-human’ religion, and they mock those who are so very much below them and who are Christian.
  • They have a fascination with being perceived as outsiders, and usually, this is a result of never really ‘fitting in’ with children around them when they were young. That is, they have a neurosis which manifests itself as Satanism; and they feel that if they take their ‘outsider’ status as a badge of honour - a ‘bad guy’ badge, to work from an idea of LaVey’s - that they will have a certain power over others. They therefore wish very strongly to impress others with intimidation.
There are other traits also which I have observed; but I feel my point is made. I wonder, then, what your individual observations are.
 
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
So you believe in satan. you know he aready lost.
 
In point of fact, there is another question which I would like to ask. How many LaVeyan Satanists have you met offline, face-to-face? What sort of people were they? Those within the Church of Satan will claim that even mature thinkers, who are educated, and who have accomplished something of merit in life, who are even ‘mainstream’ and who raise children, are attracted to the thought of LaVey. Does this claim conform to the people who you have met?

I will say that, contrariwise, those members of the CoS whom I have met, and yes, I have met some, fit instead into the sort of cliched perception which many will already make of Satanists. I understand that many wish to be taken seriously as strong-willed intellectuals who command a certain respect, but this desire simply is not met by those whom Satanists, consciously or not, should like to impress. I have found those people to have traits like these:
  • They have very little formal education, and are thus largely unemployable, just as LaVey himself was. Those whom I have met have standard jobs in, say, retail environments, and earn very little money per annum. How does this relate to their philosophy as being a sort of Uebermensch who has material power and control over others?
  • They are usually young, male, and very much so interested in forms of expression which communicate angst, anger, and dissatisfaction with the world around them. They seemingly try very hard to ‘stand out’ from the ‘Christian-inspired sheep’ around them; and they blend in with each other, finding a certain ‘originality’ in gothic or rivethead inspired ‘fashion’.
  • They are usually very angry with Christianity, because they find within it a string of tenets which they perceive as being hypocritical and stupid; indeed, because they fancy themselves original and intelligent, usually very highly so, they feel they are far above such a ‘primitive’ and ‘anti-human’ religion, and they mock those who are so very much below them and who are Christian.
  • They have a fascination with being perceived as outsiders, and usually, this is a result of never really ‘fitting in’ with children around them when they were young. That is, they have a neurosis which manifests itself as Satanism; and they feel that if they take their ‘outsider’ status as a badge of honour - a ‘bad guy’ badge, to work from an idea of LaVey’s - that they will have a certain power over others. They therefore wish very strongly to impress others with intimidation.
There are other traits also which I have observed; but I feel my point is made. I wonder, then, what your individual observations are.
I’ve met 3 LaVey Satanists. Two of them fall into the catagories you’ve already described. One has a BS in Mechanical Engineering and works for a defense contractor on the east coast. Doing something or other with submarines.

I’m not a LaVeyian, but I am 1 year from my masters in VLSI (Very Large Scale Integration) Design. Well testing anyway… My focus, or research, is finding ways to tell if additional hardware, such as trojans, have been added to a design. (Meaning someone submits a layout of a chip, and the manufacturer has added some logic that would potentially send sensitive information to a hostile state.)

This is very important these days as it costs about 4 billion to equip a fab to manufacture the new technology found in chips. Many fabs have been outsourced to countries outside the United States, India and China mostly. The US has two fabs, SNL and another Fab located in Vermont (though the name escapes me).

Unfortunately, no one has come up with a good way to detect this malicious hardware because adding a few logic gates doesn’t significantly change the amount of current drawn, neither is the change in delay large enough to accurately/consistently detect.

(Technology - size of a transistor on a chip, there are millions of transistors on chips these days)

I also work full time as a ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Circuit) Design engineer for a reputable company. I have a 4 year old daughter, and I’ve been happily married for over 5 years. I have never, and will never, wear all black, paint my nails etc. I am not a feminist and I prefer sunny, hot weather. I like Catholicism, because… honestly, how can you not read some of the Church Fathers and not be amazed by their insightfulness!

No doom and gloom for me. It’s a serious waste of energy.

So do all Satanists match your description? nah…
 
Hello again Imryl.
I think the OP said he was leaving the thread, but I am glad you are back. I was wondering something. Isn’t it true that in your faith, knowledge is something to strive for? 🙂
 
Years ago out of curiosity I read the Satanic bible. It was interesting to say the least. and I can say 100% bull as a religion.
I burned it after reading so no one else would read this filth.

God Bless

EC
It’s more of a philosophy. A pretty good one too. :cool:

Ironically Yours. ❤️
 
I’ve heard that said about every type of Satanism. But as far as I’m concerned, everyone strives to expand their horizons. No one is going to sit in their bed everyday and refuse to learn anything new.

Not a Christian or Satanist.
 
So you believe in satan. you know he aready lost.
This boy is a LaVeyan Satanist, not a Theistic one. Last he told me, he did not believe in God or Satan… or any other deity for that matter.

LaVeyan Satanists (for the 66th time :rotfl:) worship themselves.
 
I’ve heard that said about every type of Satanism. But as far as I’m concerned, everyone strives to expand their horizons. No one is going to sit in their bed everyday and refuse to learn anything new.

Not a Christian or Satanist.
I am glad I was able to show us all we have common ground.
This could be why you are interested in the catholic faith.? (one of many reasons, I was just finding one to start with)
 
It’s more of a philosophy. A pretty good one too. :cool:

Ironically Yours. ❤️
I have a philosophy for you:

There is no greater love than to lay your life down for your friends

(its not an easy philosophy to take in, but its certainly more dramatic than any other)
 
I have a philosophy for you:

There is no greater love than to lay your life down for your friends

(its not an easy philosophy to take in, but its certainly more dramatic than any other)
Believe it or not, LV Satanists wouldn’t disagree with that. 😉
 
If you don’t mind, what exactly did Christ mean by “friends”?

Victor
His children. Christ came for his Children.
Knowing you are a child of Christ, changes everything.
I await that day with great anticipation, to also be his child.
Only because I know now, what I must do.
I believe he would have died for even **one man **who believed.
 
Okay, can you provide any source on that? Primary only.🙂
Bear in mind, what Christ meant by friends.
An LV Satanist only loves those who is deserving of their love/honor/respect. They hold life as precious, especially the lives of children, which are held as sacred. The only people who are capable of being protected by an LV Satanist are those who that LV Satanist loves and holds near and dear.
 
An LV Satanist only loves those who is deserving of their love/honor/respect. They hold life as precious, especially the lives of children, which are held as sacred. The only people who are capable of being protected by an LV Satanist are those who that LV Satanist loves and holds near and dear.
That is why I asked you to give me a proof for the philosophy to be as exciting.
🙂

I had Imryl in mind, with her personal testimony when you said what you did.

I still hold that the philosophy is not as exciting. Nor is it the same.
 
Besides, what’s wrong with changing God’s mind about mankind’s fate?
Huh? Do you even know God? Do you know what & who God is? If you do know, then how could you say that God can change His mind? If you say God can change His mind, then you must not know Him.
 
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AlegreFe:
Oh my goodness, you’re one of those that believe angels and demons are a “literary device” to try and explain certain stories in the bible. I shutter to think such nonsense.
I don’t think you understood my post. I tried to explain what “mythic” meant but you aren’t getting it 🙂 Here’s wikipedia; I hope it helps.

. . . .

If you are getting hung up on the word “mythic”, replace it with “sublime”. I believe the stories regarding angels correspond to a sublime reality. Happy? More than right belief, IMO, it is important to have a happy heart 🙂

I’m going to desubscribe from this thread so I may not be able to reply if you have any followup to this 🙂
I understood exactly what you meant. The devil and the angels are not mythical at all. If you say that they are then you could easily say that you and I are mythical. That is such utter nonsense. The angels are a reality of God’s creation. The fallen angels are now the devils. Just like the angels who fell we too can easily fall if we do not keep our eye on Jesus Christ and obey Him in His Commandments.
 
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