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Teen4Christ
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It happens in nature, therefore, it is natural my good man. It’s also perfectly acceptable, I myself am a practicing homosexual and I can assure you it is indeed natural.
Homosexual professor at Catholic Univ "ordained" by heretical sect
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irenaeus1
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“Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity” (Rom 1:26b-27)
Homosexual acts sounds rather unnatural.
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irenaeus1
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Well, my good man, then repent or you will likewise parish.
Just because it happens in nature, does not make it right. Cannibalism and incest occur in nature, but this does not make it morally licit.
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Teen4Christ
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The Bible also says we could sell our daughters into slavery, that people should be executed for working on the sabbath, and alot of other stupid irreverent things.
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irenaeus1
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Not under the New Covenant, it doesn’t. Paul’s letter to the Romans was to Christians; i.e., people of the New Covenant.
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agangbern
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I read the link that you gave in your initiatory post here and this is written:
USF may have all these things, but it also has Vincent Pizzuto, who, besides being assistant professor in the university’s Department of Theology and Religious Studies, is also an ordained priest in the Celtic Christian Church.
I did not see from the link what seen had he done!
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irenaeus1
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Upon what authority do you make such a claim?
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Caveman
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(I’ll use correct medical terminology, as not to offend the sensibilities of anyone)
Teen,
If you honestly believe that one man sloshing his erection around in another man’s feces filled rectum is “natural”, then obviously, I’m not the one who has a problem understanding what the word “natural” means.
By the way… devouring one’s own children is found in nature as well. So much for your “it’s found in nature” argument.
But thanks for reminding us all how base and “to the lowest common denominator” the homosexual lifestyle really is.
So predictable.
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Caveman
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His false and heretical sect can no more validly ordain, than I can baptize a poodle. Get it?
Remember the little part where he bragged about heing a Sodomite? Now you do consider active homosexuality a grave moral disorder and intrinsically evil, don’t you?
I should hope so… that’s the official teaching of Holy Mother The Church.
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Caveman
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Irenaeus,
Like every other unrepentant sinner who’s ever tried (unsuccessfully) to rationalize and legitimize their sin, they base it upon thier own “feelings”.
Much akin to the old saying “if it feels good, do it”. But to the homosexual crowd, that’s their mantra.
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v3orb
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iraeneus1:
hmm…
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irenaeus1
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So has prostitution been found everywhere since time immemorial. Along with rape, incest, etc. So this makes it ‘normal’ or ‘natural?’
Pretty much wrong on all counts here. Same-sex attraction is a disorder. In fact, let’s take your same quote, but replace ‘homosexual’ with ‘alcoholic.’
It is not a handicap by which an alcoholic is not able to perform certain physical or mental activities which a non-alcoholic can. Except for the propensity for drunkeness and co-dependency on alcohol, an alcoholic is similar to a non-alcoholic. It is neither a genetic defect nor a biological abnormality. Alcoholics are normal people with a different disposition towards alcohol.
No, alcoholism is a disorder.
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Caveman
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Don’t waste your time, Ireneaus. These folks are perfect examples of the definition of theological liberalsim. Specifically, that all Truth and knowledge doesn’t come from above, but from within.
That coupled with the fact that grave immorality is their catechism, and intrinsic evil is their god. The center of their existence is a perverted and deviant orgasm. It’s as if they worship it.
As I’ve already stated… don’t cast your pearls before swine.
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revelations
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There is a whole generation that is completely lost to the gospel of Christ, completely lost. Mostly, my generation. Slowly the true christian faith will go more and more underground, and the “hard core” christians will be fewer in numbers.
Who will take their place are those who proclaim this new faith, that is clearly NOT CHRISTIAN, no matter which way you cut it. If people who died in the 60’s came back to life today, they wouldn’t recognize the world. This new “confused christianity” has already permeated the episcopal church, levels of the anglican church in canada, and forget about the protestant denominations. Confusion reigns supreme, and in light of false modesty no one says anything in fear of “offending someones rights to religion”.
Except the catholic faith. Thankfully catholicism has held out for the most part, but the same confusion has been slowly seeping in through the cracks during the time JP II was just too old and weak to do anything about it. California is a harlot, a religious whore of biblical proportions. They are lost, and so is a generation of youth. These new developments are just signs of the times.
Pray, pray, pray. These problems require much more than a letter to the bishop to do something about.
When a practicing sodomite can name themselves “for christ” and not see anything wrong with it, this is a profession of the new faith, the faith not from God.
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Who will take their place are those who proclaim this new faith, that is clearly NOT CHRISTIAN, no matter which way you cut it. If people who died in the 60’s came back to life today, they wouldn’t recognize the world. This new “confused christianity” has already permeated the episcopal church, levels of the anglican church in canada, and forget about the protestant denominations. Confusion reigns supreme, and in light of false modesty no one says anything in fear of “offending someones rights to religion”.
Except the catholic faith. Thankfully catholicism has held out for the most part, but the same confusion has been slowly seeping in through the cracks during the time JP II was just too old and weak to do anything about it. California is a harlot, a religious whore of biblical proportions. They are lost, and so is a generation of youth. These new developments are just signs of the times.
Pray, pray, pray. These problems require much more than a letter to the bishop to do something about.
When a practicing sodomite can name themselves “for christ” and not see anything wrong with it, this is a profession of the new faith, the faith not from God.
In Prayer,
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Corki
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I can’t seem to locate this quote in the CCC. Can you provide a source?
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donmaximuso27
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This is such a sad case, and unfortunately it is becoming all too common in this generation. Catholics who follow the Word of God and Holy Mother Church in faith and morals are not only condemned by non-Catholics and liberal-minded people, but also by fellow Catholics! We must offer up prayers for Mother Church, especially for those who claim to be part of Christ’s Body, yet deny in ignorance and heresy the very words on which Christ’s Church was founded. Of course we all stray from God and His Word in sin all the time, but it matters of this, where the acts are so obvious in their sinful nature, and are so widely and deeply spread, it is truly sad. 
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v3orb
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It’s not from the CCC. It’s fundamental sexual science.
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Ridgerunner
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Catholics should simply “vote with their feet” when it comes to places like USF. Deviant “Catholic” colleges are far more expensive than state colleges. Many are not particularly well-rated academically. What’s the point in going?
It’s appropriate to study them, though, because some are entirely faithful to Church teachings or only have minor defects. Interestingly, my son transferred from a Jesuit school (like USF) because it was so outrageously unorthodox that he found the state college more tolerant of Catholicism. My daughter, on the other hand, saw very little that was out of the way in another Jesuit school. I think the difference could have been that the second was much smaller and had a very close relationship with a group of wealthy alumni that are faithful to the Church.
By my observation, Catholic colleges that are faithful to the teachings of the Church are in the minority.
It’s appropriate to study them, though, because some are entirely faithful to Church teachings or only have minor defects. Interestingly, my son transferred from a Jesuit school (like USF) because it was so outrageously unorthodox that he found the state college more tolerant of Catholicism. My daughter, on the other hand, saw very little that was out of the way in another Jesuit school. I think the difference could have been that the second was much smaller and had a very close relationship with a group of wealthy alumni that are faithful to the Church.
By my observation, Catholic colleges that are faithful to the teachings of the Church are in the minority.
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Caveman
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In other words, “fundamental sexual science” from the sodomite POV. But much like I’ve said to TEEN, if it’s “sexual science” to utilize the rectum for something that it was never intened (the sloshing about of another man’s penis) then obviously, there’s something exceedingly wrong with the “science” being researched here.
BTW, anyone else notice the homosexual hijacking of St Sebastian? The homosexual community (deviants) have claimed him as their own, due to the homo-erotic sight of a man covered with arrows (phallic symbols) and in agonizing pain.
Face it… those who adhere and/or defend the active homosexual lifestyle are a perverted, sick, sad bunch of people. May God have mercy on them, for the souls that they are leading to hell.
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v3orb
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Scuse me, but the great majority of criminals, perverts, pedophiles and rapists are straight men… and this is ratio based, not percentage based.
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